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No Help from Moss

Post by IanMcL » Sat Mar 13, 2021 7:49 pm

Gave us nothing. Saw nothing, unless it was for them.

Doing his prem duty to assist one of the inner sanctum.

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Re: No Help from Moss

Post by Vegas Claret » Sat Mar 13, 2021 7:54 pm

as good as he was for us at Old Trafford last season he was bad today !

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Re: No Help from Moss

Post by FCBurnley » Sat Mar 13, 2021 7:55 pm

We won despite him and VAR

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Re: No Help from Moss

Post by Buxtonclaret » Sat Mar 13, 2021 7:57 pm

When you see some of the stuff now regularly been given as penalties, that first half handball miss was criminal.
By Moss and VAR.
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Re: No Help from Moss

Post by jedi_master » Sat Mar 13, 2021 7:57 pm

Does anyone know who he supports? With him being head teacher (not sure if he still is) at Ferney Lee Junior School in Todmorden I assume it’s a local team but I may be way off.

Not to start a conspiracy theory or anything but after his performance at Old Trafford the other year I always fear him.

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Re: No Help from Moss

Post by Vino blanco » Sat Mar 13, 2021 7:58 pm

He and Mason are useless wastes of space. But Moss is also biased to the big teams at home (I won't get fined by the FA for saying that will I?)

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Re: No Help from Moss

Post by Steve1956 » Sat Mar 13, 2021 7:58 pm

FCBurnley wrote:
Sat Mar 13, 2021 7:55 pm
We won despite him and VAR
I thought VAR was having the day off,some of the things they missed today was worrying
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Re: No Help from Moss

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Sat Mar 13, 2021 7:58 pm

One thing I noticed with moss is how unfit he looks.

I don’t understand why there isn’t an academy for refs. Producing and fast tracking younger, fitter refs.

I genuinely don’t know how these refs can keep up with the pace of the game. Or how they’re even expected to.

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Re: No Help from Moss

Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Sat Mar 13, 2021 7:59 pm

Was VAR working at our game!?

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Re: No Help from Moss

Post by Devils_Advocate » Sat Mar 13, 2021 7:59 pm

Could have disallowed the first for a Brownhill foul. Dont get me wrong I dont for a second think it was a foul but they'd be a few on here wanting a foul and moaning at Moss for not giving it had it been the other was round
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Re: No Help from Moss

Post by jedi_master » Sat Mar 13, 2021 8:00 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:
Sat Mar 13, 2021 7:58 pm
One thing I noticed with moss is how unfit he looks.

I don’t understand why there isn’t an academy for refs. Producing and fast tracking younger, fitter refs.

I genuinely don’t know how these refs can keep up with the pace of the game. Or how they’re even expected to.
Moss’ mass gives hope to even me.

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Re: No Help from Moss

Post by Dark Cloud » Sat Mar 13, 2021 8:02 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote:
Sat Mar 13, 2021 7:59 pm
Could have disallowed the first for a Brownhill foul. Dont get me wrong I dont for a second think it was a foul but they'd be a few on here wanting a foul and moaning at Moss for not giving it had it been the other was round
Totally agree here. Davies melted under basically no pressure like the proverbial confectionery fire guard and tried to buy a foul as he'd mis contolled the ball. So often given as fouls and just for a change it wasn't, so fair play to Moss on that one. No complaints from Everton btw as the goal was scored, so they knew.
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Re: No Help from Moss

Post by Foulthrow » Sat Mar 13, 2021 8:03 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote:
Sat Mar 13, 2021 7:59 pm
Could have disallowed the first for a Brownhill foul. Dont get me wrong I dont for a second think it was a foul but they'd be a few on here wanting a foul and moaning at Moss for not giving it had it been the other was round
Couldn’t agree more.

Wasn’t there a similar incident where Westwood was robbed and the opposition scored?

I was screaming for a foul then and I would have been tonight had it been the other way round.

Don’t think Moss got much wrong tonight and we can’t grumble about the handball given the decision last week.

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Re: No Help from Moss

Post by nil_desperandum » Sat Mar 13, 2021 8:04 pm

Didn't see the match, but according to the stats he only penalised us on 6 occasions in 94 minutes, and awarded us 9 freekicks, so it doesn't sound like he was particularly harsh on us.
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Re: No Help from Moss

Post by Dark Cloud » Sat Mar 13, 2021 8:04 pm

Foulthrow wrote:
Sat Mar 13, 2021 8:03 pm
Couldn’t agree more.

Wasn’t there a similar incident where Westwood was robbed and the opposition scored?

I was screaming for a foul then and I would have been tonight had it been the other way round.

Don’t think Moss got much wrong tonight and we can’t grumble about the handball given the decision last week.
I'm sure the one you're talking about with Westwood was the Everton home game bizarrely.
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Re: No Help from Moss

Post by Foulthrow » Sat Mar 13, 2021 8:06 pm

Dark Cloud wrote:
Sat Mar 13, 2021 8:04 pm
I'm sure the one you're talking about with Westwood was the Everton home game bizarrely.
Really!?!?

And I’m not usually one for things evening themselves out.

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Re: No Help from Moss

Post by Peter Loo » Sat Mar 13, 2021 8:07 pm

Very quick to reach for his book.

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Re: No Help from Moss

Post by Tribesmen » Sat Mar 13, 2021 8:07 pm

We didn't need him in the end

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Re: No Help from Moss

Post by Dark Cloud » Sat Mar 13, 2021 8:08 pm

Foulthrow wrote:
Sat Mar 13, 2021 8:06 pm
Really!?!?

And I’m not usually one for things evening themselves out.
Yes, I do THINK so (others may correct me) and it was when Calvert-Lewin equalised for them right on the stroke of half time
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Re: No Help from Moss

Post by conyoviejo » Sat Mar 13, 2021 8:08 pm

Thought the ref had a good game mesen.

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Re: No Help from Moss

Post by Burnley1989 » Sat Mar 13, 2021 8:12 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:
Sat Mar 13, 2021 7:58 pm
One thing I noticed with moss is how unfit he looks.

I don’t understand why there isn’t an academy for refs. Producing and fast tracking younger, fitter refs.

I genuinely don’t know how these refs can keep up with the pace of the game. Or how they’re even expected to.
Always had a bee in my bonnet about premier league Refs being overweight, they’re payed decent wages, it should be a given they’re in good shape

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Re: No Help from Moss

Post by Zlatan » Sat Mar 13, 2021 8:13 pm

It was Jack Cork who dropped too easily at home for their goal. Although he was actually fouled, unlike “I’ve been taken out by a sniper Davies”

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Re: No Help from Moss

Post by levraiclaret » Sat Mar 13, 2021 8:14 pm

jedi_master wrote:
Sat Mar 13, 2021 7:57 pm
Does anyone know who he supports? With him being head teacher (not sure if he still is) at Ferney Lee Junior School in Todmorden I assume it’s a local team but I may be way off.

Not to start a conspiracy theory or anything but after his performance at Old Trafford the other year I always fear him.
I believe it's Leeds which explains why we only get a fair shake against Utd.

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Re: No Help from Moss

Post by jrgbfc » Sat Mar 13, 2021 8:14 pm

Thought Moss was fine tonight.

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Re: No Help from Moss

Post by beddie » Sat Mar 13, 2021 8:15 pm

conyoviejo wrote:
Sat Mar 13, 2021 8:08 pm
Thought the ref had a good game mesen.
Did you forget to add a smiley :lol:

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Re: No Help from Moss

Post by CrosspoolClarets » Sat Mar 13, 2021 8:16 pm

Agreed with both the Brownhill and Mee decisions today, though have seen both given the other way.

No complaints.

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Re: No Help from Moss

Post by giveusaB » Sat Mar 13, 2021 8:18 pm

6 fouls but 4 yellows from Moss.He lives in Leeds but he’s a Sunderland fan.

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Re: No Help from Moss

Post by joey13 » Sat Mar 13, 2021 8:20 pm

giveusaB wrote:
Sat Mar 13, 2021 8:18 pm
6 fouls but 4 yellows from Moss.He lives in Leeds but he’s a Sunderland fan.
He’s a GREGGS fan more though
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Re: No Help from Moss

Post by beddie » Sat Mar 13, 2021 8:33 pm

My biggest gripe was that he booked one of our players for an identical tackle received by Brownhill and didn't bother booking the Everton player, just gave us a free kick.

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Re: No Help from Moss

Post by Bosscat » Sat Mar 13, 2021 8:37 pm

Who cares ....
We won ...
3 points ...
Moss doesn't matter ...

Get over it lads (and lasses) ...

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Re: No Help from Moss

Post by Bosscat » Sat Mar 13, 2021 8:38 pm

joey13 wrote:
Sat Mar 13, 2021 8:20 pm
He’s a GREGGS fan more though
Definitely carrying a tad more timber than he should be (reminded me of me 🤭🤭🤭)

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Re: No Help from Moss

Post by joey13 » Sat Mar 13, 2021 8:39 pm

Bosscat wrote:
Sat Mar 13, 2021 8:38 pm
Definitely carrying a tad more timber than he should be (reminded me of me 🤭🤭🤭)
Reminded me of me last year , then again I wasn’t reffing Premier League games 🤷‍♂️

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Re: No Help from Moss

Post by Rileybobs » Sat Mar 13, 2021 8:40 pm

Don’t really have any issues with his performance tonight. I wouldn’t expect him to be certain enough to give the handball - so my gripe is with the VAR who failed to give a completely routine penalty decision.
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Re: No Help from Moss

Post by JohnMac » Sat Mar 13, 2021 9:02 pm

In the second half the ball went out for a Burnley goal kick but Everton were screaming for a corner. Ben Godfery looked across at the Assistant Referee and mouthed CHEAT at least 3 times, the second 2 obviously because he was being looked at directly.

In the West Brom game Bartley shouted 'You F***ING Wa**er' at the Referee after being bundled out by Benteke.

Why didn't the Asst take any action?
Why are Officials happy to be dominated by players offering Verbal Abuse?

It can only be either because as a collective they are spineless, or have someone dictating to them to take no action.

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Re: No Help from Moss

Post by Aclaret » Sat Mar 13, 2021 9:11 pm

Moss is Toss

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Re: No Help from Moss

Post by IanMcL » Sat Mar 13, 2021 9:17 pm

JohnMac wrote:
Sat Mar 13, 2021 9:02 pm
In the second half the ball went out for a Burnley goal kick but Everton were screaming for a corner. Ben Godfery looked across at the Assistant Referee and mouthed CHEAT at least 3 times, the second 2 obviously because he was being looked at directly.

In the West Brom game Bartley shouted 'You F***ING Wa**er' at the Referee after being bundled out by Benteke.
All refs are w kers! Everyone knows that!

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Re: No Help from Moss

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Sat Mar 13, 2021 9:32 pm

JohnMac wrote:
Sat Mar 13, 2021 9:02 pm
In the second half the ball went out for a Burnley goal kick but Everton were screaming for a corner. Ben Godfery looked across at the Assistant Referee and mouthed CHEAT at least 3 times, the second 2 obviously because he was being looked at directly.

In the West Brom game Bartley shouted 'You F***ING Wa**er' at the Referee after being bundled out by Benteke.

Why didn't the Asst take any action?
Why are Officials happy to be dominated by players offering Verbal Abuse?

It can only be either because as a collective they are spineless, or have someone dictating to them to take no action.
Must admit I saw that and thought of the incident with drysdale.

The refs get no respect. It’s almost criminal at times. Especially from the same players taking a knee.

But in part I imagine it’s in line with my comments above the refs aren’t fit and will command no respect from these fuelled up spoilt footballers

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Re: No Help from Moss

Post by maidenover » Sat Mar 13, 2021 9:34 pm

giveusaB wrote:
Sat Mar 13, 2021 8:18 pm
6 fouls but 4 yellows from Moss.He lives in Leeds but he’s a Sunderland fan.
Lucky Sunderland then, they don’t have to put up with his refereeing “performances”

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Re: No Help from Moss

Post by Claret » Sat Mar 13, 2021 9:50 pm

Looks like I’m in the minority but I did not think it was a penalty. Completely accidental. Unable to get his arm out of the way because of Mee's body being in the way.
Moss did ok today. I don’t adhere to the ridiculous referee conspiracy b*ll*cks that some talk about.

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Re: No Help from Moss

Post by huw.Y.WattfromWare » Sat Mar 13, 2021 9:54 pm

VAR was the problem, not Moss. Personally I was more upset by the Godfrey handball, stopping a goal bound shot, than Holgate’s handball but both were penalties.

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Re: No Help from Moss

Post by Colburn_Claret » Sat Mar 13, 2021 10:09 pm

Like Rileybobs, I thought he had a good game.
He got both pens wrong, but they were hard to pick in real time. VAR was the villain again, it makes you wonder what these refs in the studio are doing, when they are supposed to be watching the game .

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Re: No Help from Moss

Post by whentheballmoves » Sat Mar 13, 2021 10:19 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:
Sat Mar 13, 2021 7:58 pm
One thing I noticed with moss is how unfit he looks.

I don’t understand why there isn’t an academy for refs. Producing and fast tracking younger, fitter refs.

I genuinely don’t know how these refs can keep up with the pace of the game. Or how they’re even expected to.
Have met him at a refereeing evening in Sheffield, and he doesn't look unfit at all. Seems to be a nice bloke, to boot. Runs a record store in Leeds, I believe.

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Re: No Help from Moss

Post by mill hill claret » Sat Mar 13, 2021 10:22 pm

I personally thought he had a decent game

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Re: No Help from Moss

Post by Rowls » Sat Mar 13, 2021 10:25 pm

JohnMac wrote:
Sat Mar 13, 2021 9:02 pm
In the second half the ball went out for a Burnley goal kick but Everton were screaming for a corner. Ben Godfery looked across at the Assistant Referee and mouthed CHEAT at least 3 times, the second 2 obviously because he was being looked at directly.

In the West Brom game Bartley shouted 'You F***ING Wa**er' at the Referee after being bundled out by Benteke.

Why didn't the Asst take any action?
Why are Officials happy to be dominated by players offering Verbal Abuse?

It can only be either because as a collective they are spineless, or have someone dictating to them to take no action.
This -THIS- is the reason referees don’t want to be broadcast.

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Re: No Help from Moss

Post by Chester Perry » Sat Mar 13, 2021 10:25 pm

huw.Y.WattfromWare wrote:
Sat Mar 13, 2021 9:54 pm
VAR was the problem, not Moss. Personally I was more upset by the Godfrey handball, stopping a goal bound shot, than Holgate’s handball but both were penalties.
The one that I really did not understand was the shove on Tarks that sent him sprawling, how did that not warrant anything

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Re: No Help from Moss

Post by huw.Y.WattfromWare » Sat Mar 13, 2021 10:29 pm

He has to pass fitness tests to get the gig. He might be rotund but he obviously isn’t unfit.

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Re: No Help from Moss

Post by Narwhalchomper » Sat Mar 13, 2021 10:39 pm

I actually think a big pen call was on tarks when he was shoulder barged in the back by a player with no intent on challenging for the arial dual!
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Re: No Help from Moss

Post by agreenwood » Sat Mar 13, 2021 10:42 pm

jedi_master wrote:
Sat Mar 13, 2021 7:57 pm
Does anyone know who he supports? With him being head teacher (not sure if he still is) at Ferney Lee Junior School in Todmorden I assume it’s a local team but I may be way off.

Not to start a conspiracy theory or anything but after his performance at Old Trafford the other year I always fear him.
No idea, but he’s from the North East & lives in Leeds.

He’s not a headteacher. He’s a full time Premier League ref.

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Re: No Help from Moss

Post by Devils_Advocate » Sat Mar 13, 2021 10:46 pm

whentheballmoves wrote:
Sat Mar 13, 2021 10:19 pm
Runs a record store in Leeds, I believe.
If its the one im thinking off its just 5 mins down from me and is called the Vinyl Cafe (I think). Nice little store with some decent records but not 100% thats his one

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Re: No Help from Moss

Post by RingoMcCartney » Sat Mar 13, 2021 11:05 pm

Narwhalchomper wrote:
Sat Mar 13, 2021 10:39 pm
I actually think a big pen call was on tarks when he was shoulder barged in the back by a player with no intent on challenging for the arial dual!
That was the biggest shout for me as well.

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