Wow. Does not look pretty at all.

Good.....

cricketfieldclarets wrote: ↑

Sun Mar 14, 2021 10:09 pm

Wow. Does not look pretty at all.

Does it matter that much?

We couldn't beat West Brom this year but won at Everton, Liverpool and Arsenal.

At the end of the day all that matters this season is... we finish above the bottom 4 or 5...

Whichever 3 take the drop I don't care as long as we aren't amongst them

Will everybody stop worrying about relegation it's not going to happen, we've just won at Everton who sit 6th, and we've lost 1 in 8, that hardly smacks of relegation form does it.

I don't know which of Brighton, Fulham or Newcastle will take that last place, but it most certainly won't be us, and despite their poor form I doubt it'll be Southampton either, we both have winnable fixtures looming, and more importantly a good buffer to the bottom 3, in fact it's much more likely that we'll finish mid-table then be anywhere near the drop zone.

Play like we did against Everton and we have no worries.
Play like we did against WBA........

tiger76 wrote: ↑

Sun Mar 14, 2021 10:22 pm

Will everybody stop worrying about relegation it's not going to happen, we've just won at Everton who sit 6th, and we've lost 1 in 8, that hardly smacks of relegation form does it.

I don't know which of Brighton, Fulham or Newcastle will take that last place, but it most certainly won't be us, and despite their poor form I doubt it'll be Southampton either, we both have winnable fixtures looming, and more importantly a good buffer to the bottom 3, in fact it's much more likely that we'll finish mid-table then be anywhere near the drop zone.

I dont think the OP is about Burnley being relegated....its about Newcastle's run in. Hopefully Fulham escape it.....for my own selfish reasons if nothing else.

tiger76 wrote: ↑

Sun Mar 14, 2021 10:22 pm

Will everybody stop worrying about relegation it's not going to happen, we've just won at Everton who sit 6th, and we've lost 1 in 8, that hardly smacks of relegation form does it.

I don't know which of Brighton, Fulham or Newcastle will take that last place, but it most certainly won't be us, and despite their poor form I doubt it'll be Southampton either, we both have winnable fixtures looming, and more importantly a good buffer to the bottom 3, in fact it's much more likely that we'll finish mid-table then be anywhere near the drop zone.

It’s unlikely but realistically possible that we could, at the end of day it’s only 2 wins & a draw 7pts, the crucial bit being nothing in reply from us & the others having runs which is the unlikely part, but people being confident to the extent of not caring what the likes of Fulham & Newcastle & Brighton do is foolish, that bridge needs to be maintained if we go thru a winless patch.

Jakubclaret wrote: ↑

Sun Mar 14, 2021 10:35 pm

that bridge needs to be maintained if we go thru a winless patch.

I'll bet we don't take a single point for the rest of this month!

tiger76 wrote: ↑

Sun Mar 14, 2021 10:22 pm

Will everybody stop worrying about relegation it's not going to happen, we've just won at Everton who sit 6th, and we've lost 1 in 8, that hardly smacks of relegation form does it.

I don't know which of Brighton, Fulham or Newcastle will take that last place, but it most certainly won't be us, and despite their poor form I doubt it'll be Southampton either, we both have winnable fixtures looming, and more importantly a good buffer to the bottom 3, in fact it's much more likely that we'll finish mid-table then be anywhere near the drop zone.

Absolutely agree with this. Been saying this for weeks.

Is this a DIY thread or what? Here are the missing fixtures.

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Saturday Mar 20, 2021 8:00 PM Brighton & Hove Albion FC - Newcastle United
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Saturday Apr 3, 2021 3:00 PM Newcastle United - Tottenham Hotspur
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Saturday Apr 10, 2021 3:00 PM Burnley FC - Newcastle United
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Saturday Apr 17, 2021 3:00 PM Newcastle United - West Ham United
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Saturday Apr 24, 2021 3:00 PM Liverpool - Newcastle United
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Saturday May 1, 2021 3:00 PM Newcastle United - Arsenal
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Saturday May 8, 2021 3:00 PM Leicester City - Newcastle United
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Wednesday May 12, 2021 7:45 PM Newcastle United - Manchester City
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Saturday May 15, 2021 3:00 PM Newcastle United - Sheffield United
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Sunday May 23, 2021 4:00 PM Fulham - Newcastle United
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Bye Bye Brucie

Saturday Mar 20, 2021 8:00 PM Brighton & Hove Albion FC - Newcastle United
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Saturday Apr 3, 2021 3:00 PM Newcastle United - Tottenham Hotspur
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Saturday Apr 10, 2021 3:00 PM Burnley FC - Newcastle United
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Saturday Apr 17, 2021 3:00 PM Newcastle United - West Ham United
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Saturday Apr 24, 2021 3:00 PM Liverpool - Newcastle United
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Saturday May 1, 2021 3:00 PM Newcastle United - Arsenal
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Saturday May 8, 2021 3:00 PM Leicester City - Newcastle United
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Wednesday May 12, 2021 7:45 PM Newcastle United - Manchester City
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Saturday May 15, 2021 3:00 PM Newcastle United - Sheffield United
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Sunday May 23, 2021 4:00 PM Fulham - Newcastle United

That’s tough. If they lose at Brighton and Burnley they are done. But if they get the 3 star players back they have a chance. International break could save em

tiger76 wrote: ↑

Sun Mar 14, 2021 10:22 pm

Will everybody stop worrying about relegation it's not going to happen, we've just won at Everton who sit 6th, and we've lost 1 in 8, that hardly smacks of relegation form does it.

I don't know which of Brighton, Fulham or Newcastle will take that last place, but it most certainly won't be us, and despite their poor form I doubt it'll be Southampton either, we both have winnable fixtures looming, and more importantly a good buffer to the bottom 3, in fact it's much more likely that we'll finish mid-table then be anywhere near the drop zone.

3 defeats in 12 and all three to the so called big six. 12 games and no one outside the top clubs have beat us. We have drawn with Champions League hopefuls Leicester and just outplayed Everton on their own ground. We have, for the first time in our entire history, won away at both Liverpool clubs. We have taken 4 points off Arsenal. We could conceivably do the double on Liverpool. We have games to come that we would expect to win but don’t actually need to. What the hell do our fans need to stop them talking about bloody relegation? 17 points from our last 12 games means our CURRENT form is actually better than our season long average in terms of points per game, in other words we are actually IMPROVING. 45 points is a realistic target. I don’t know what people are on other COVID induced boredom but there is absolutely nothing in our current form to suggest even the possibility of relegation, other than a complete and utter collapse in form such as we will not have. By the time we play again we should have more or less a full squad for the run in. I am looking forward to the last nine games with total confidence, expecting a mid table minimum. Come on guys, look at the FACTS.

Just remember, games against the top teams towards the end of the season will be easier than normal as they’ll have settled into their Champions League places or not as the case may be, are more likely to afford to rotate and / or players being mentally on the beach. Games against so called strugglers become harder than at any point in the season because they’re scrapping. Best scenario for us is that this mini league of about 5 or 6 above WBA hopefully we all play each other a few times and cancel each other out and then our 7 points gap stands us in good stead.

I want them to beat Hove.

We have only lost 3 games all season to teams outside the current top 6. Two of those were against Southampton and Newcastle early days when we had more injured players than fit

The other was daylight robbery at Leeds

The likelihood is that we will stay up if we get no points

Come on boys, look on the bright side of life

houseboy wrote: ↑

Mon Mar 15, 2021 12:50 am

3 defeats in 12 and all three to the so called big six. 12 games and no one outside the top clubs have beat us. We have drawn with Champions League hopefuls Leicester and just outplayed Everton on their own ground. We have, for the first time in our entire history, won away at both Liverpool clubs. We have taken 4 points off Arsenal. We could conceivably do the double on Liverpool. We have games to come that we would expect to win but don’t actually need to. What the hell do our fans need to stop them talking about bloody relegation? 17 points from our last 12 games means our CURRENT form is actually better than our season long average in terms of points per game, in other words we are actually IMPROVING. 45 points is a realistic target. I don’t know what people are on other COVID induced boredom but there is absolutely nothing in our current form to suggest even the possibility of relegation, other than a complete and utter collapse in form such as we will not have. By the time we play again we should have more or less a full squad for the run in. I am looking forward to the last nine games with total confidence, expecting a mid table minimum. Come on guys, look at the FACTS.

Here’s a FACT. The fantastic performance against West Brom is fresh in many’s mind.

We’re more than capable of cruising to 40 odd points. But we’re also more than capable of absolute dross as recently seen and free falling to mid 30 points.

You think we're more than capable of only picking two more points up ?

tim_noone wrote: ↑

Sun Mar 14, 2021 10:31 pm

I dont think the OP is about Burnley being relegated....its about Newcastle's run in. Hopefully Fulham escape it.....for my own selfish reasons if nothing else.

Exactly that

Zero chance we will go down.

Newcastles run in and Fulhams form look like Newcastle could definitely drop.

TBH With you. Out of all of them I would like Fulham to stay up.

While the performance against WBA was shocking, February was an absolute monster of a month for games.
We'd played:

Man City on the 3rd
Brighton on the 6th
Bournemouth on the 9th
Palace on the 13th
Fulham on the 17th

We now have a 3 week break between games.

Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑

Sun Mar 14, 2021 10:11 pm

Does it matter that much?

We couldn't beat West Brom this year but won at Everton, Liverpool and Arsenal.

That's the problem with trying to predict the results. I did that before the Brighton game. Look at this forecast
Brighton win, Palace Draw, Fulham and West Brom Win, the next 4 games Spurs, Leicester, Arsenal and Everton all defeats. Each prediction which was fairly reasonable before the games were in fact incorrect. The total points tally was not far out. I predicted 10 points, we got 11

Newcastle will pick up points, it’s all about when they get Almiron, St Maximon? And crucially Callum Wilson back playing again. Wilson being out too long could be fatal for them!

evensteadiereddie wrote: ↑

Mon Mar 15, 2021 8:34 am

You think we're more than capable of only picking two more points up ?

Play like we did against West Brom every match, and yes! Highly unlikely. But factually possible.

I know the thread is essentially about Newcastle, but ultimately it's about us because if Newcastle get out of it, then somebody else has to be in it. As I said on another thread and has been alluded to by others above, looking at any team's upcoming fixtures is a total waste of time because predictions this season more than probably any other season, are downright impossible. Plus every team in the bottom half has games which look winnable on paper and games which look extremely tough (on paper) and that includes Newcastle and us. This season every team is capable of winning just about anywhere and there are unexpected results just about every week. (Sheff U at Old Trafford, Fulham winning at Anfield anyone?) From our perspective if we can perform in the games that really matter most to us (Saints, Fulham and Newcastle) then not only will we be fine, but we're giving others a huge relegation headache. BUT we need to keep key players fit and not fail to turn up like we did against WBA.

box_of_frogs wrote: ↑

Mon Mar 15, 2021 8:12 am

Here’s a FACT. The fantastic performance against West Brom is fresh in many’s mind.

We’re more than capable of cruising to 40 odd points. But we’re also more than capable of absolute dross as recently seen and free falling to mid 30 points.

Why do people keep droning on about the WBA game? It was one game and yes we were shite but what about Everton, Palace, Leicester, Arsenal to name just 4 recent games? What about averaging nearly 1.5 points per game over the last dozen matches, which is actually better than our season long average of just over one? Why don’t we concentrate on the Palace or Everton or Liverpool or Arsenal performances instead of getting bogged down by one awful game against WBA (which we didn’t even lose)? What about taking a positive from that game? We haven’t played so badly in a long time but we didn’t actually lose. It’s about time some of our fans took a drink from the half full glass.

The glass doesn't even have to be half full, it just needs a few drops of water in it.

Newcastle wont go down!!!!! The current bottom 3 were already relegated about 6 weeks sin !

2/3 true mate. Not so sure about Fulham though. And no one seems to be talking much about Southampton who have an identical record to us but who’s form is truly atrocious. Even though I truly believe we are more than safe not quite the same can be said of them as they can’t buy a win just now and are sinking like a stone. If some of our fans are worried how must their fans be feeling?

box_of_frogs wrote: ↑

Mon Mar 15, 2021 9:10 am

Play like we did against West Brom every match, and yes! Highly unlikely. But factually possible.

That makes more sense.

April is a massive month for Southampton with us WBA and Palace to play. If they don't hit the form button in April and carve out at at least 3 pts they have problems going into May were they are playing clubs fighting for a Europe spot and Fulham.
In the last 12 games Southampton and have only gained 4pts, if they don't improve on that record they will struggle to reach 37pts

Steve1956 wrote: ↑

Mon Mar 15, 2021 9:33 am

Newcastle wont go down!!!!! The current bottom 3 were already relegated about 6 weeks sin !

Wouldn’t be to sure about that.

Fulhams next 3 fixtures are against mid table sides with nothing to play. I can see them picking up at least 4 points and would not be surprised with their current form if they don't come away with 7

Southampton will be more than fine just like us.

They will get the 4 - 6 points needed easily.

Dark Cloud wrote: ↑

Mon Mar 15, 2021 9:20 am

This season every team is capable of winning just about anywhere and there are unexpected results just about every week.

As there are pretty much every other PL season as well.

We may get one of Fulham, Brighton or Newcastle go on a good run in the last 8-10 games, maybe even two will (Fulham & Brighton). Its highly unlikely however that all three will though

tiger76 wrote: ↑

Sun Mar 14, 2021 10:22 pm

Will everybody stop worrying about relegation it's not going to happen

cricketfieldclarets wrote: ↑

Mon Mar 15, 2021 11:30 am

Southampton will be more than fine just like us.

They will get the 4 - 6 points needed easily.

I would normally agree seeing as how I keep saying we are safe and their record is identical...but look at our form and theirs. That’s the difference.

2 more wins will do it.

But I think with our run in, we should be getting around 44-45 points and will probably finish around 14th - 15th, which all things considered would be an outstanding achievement

A hell of an achievement considering we gave the rest of the division a seven or eight game start...............

Top Claret wrote: ↑

Mon Mar 15, 2021 11:30 am

Wouldn’t be to sure about that.

Fulhams next 3 fixtures are against mid table sides with nothing to play. I can see them picking up at least 4 points and would not be surprised with their current form if they don't come away with 7

But I am sure....because I said it!

Ric_C wrote: ↑

Mon Mar 15, 2021 4:08 pm

2 more wins will do it.

But I think with our run in, we should be getting around 44-45 points and will probably finish around 14th - 15th, which all things considered would be an outstanding achievement

Fully agree-if that happened for me it would rival any of the years in the PL when you consider the current squad and injuries. The only downside, and I have seen this with some of our supporters, is that it becomes a reason for the new owners not to spend in the next window. As we all know we cant keep wearing the old suit and always look smart-some thing will give.

Justice if they go down,what they done at the Cricket Club,and the Turf,while the match was being played,on their last visit,Bye Bye,Disgraceful,wont be missed!

What did the Geordies's do on their last visit?

prettygreenclaret wrote: ↑

Tue Mar 16, 2021 9:08 pm

What did the Geordies's do on their last visit?

Lost 1-0 for starters last time fans were allowed in 2019

After their debacle at Brighton it seems appropriate to bump this thread.

If I was a Newcastle fan I'd be very worried viewing that, but they were probably all watching from behind their sofas.

Ashley out
Bruce out




Nah. Keep em in

Looking more likely than ever that the last round game Fulham v Newcastle will be a relegation decider.

Too late to sack Bruce now though surely- especially as BFS is unavailable (and his magic has seemingly worn off anyway).

Top Claret wrote: ↑

Mon Mar 15, 2021 11:30 am

Wouldn’t be to sure about that.

Fulhams next 3 fixtures are against mid table sides with nothing to play. I can see them picking up at least 4 points and would not be surprised with their current form if they don't come away with 7

Well they lost the first of those fixtures to Leeds, so they won't be getting 7, however they could pick up points in the Villa, Wolves and Arsenal games, but it's by no means guaranteed.

For Newcastle to stand a chance they'll need to get Wilson and Saint Maximus?
back for the run in after the international break.
If they manage to do that then they still have a chance but they'll need to get
something from their next two games - Spurs at home and us away.
Probably 3/4 points - say a draw against Spurs and a win against us.
But if they lose to Spurs and we beat them then they'll be in serious trouble
especially if Fulham pick up a few points.

But ultimately it depends on how we do in the next two games.
3/4 points from those in particular a win against Newcastle and we're virtually safe.
I do hope we can manage that.

"run-in"?
When does shelvey ever run?