Just been announced bought by
Bees knees group oh well at least it will still be a pub

Is Bertie doing the grand reopening?

longhair wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 17, 2021 1:21 pm

Just been announced bought by
Bees knees group oh well at least it will still be a pub

Cheeky get it’s my pub group

Are you going to kick all the druggies and kids out when it reopens?

Be interesting to see what they try and do with it.

We will be spending around 80-90k on it to refurbish it bringing it inline with the rest of our estate which will mean if you don’t respect the pub you will be shown quickly where the door is. I am massively anti drugs in my own life so anybody caught receives a ban from all our sites however I’m not naive enough to think drugs are part of all walks of life and in most establishments so deterring people will be a major policy within the premises

I know our pubs aren’t for everyone and we try to appeal to mass market. We run a business model that is based on volume, good value and keep our pubs modern with a local feel. Anyone who has been into coal yard and bees knees will understand we like a tele or two as well

Well good luck to you fella, hope it works out...be a shame to lose another pub.

bobinho wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 17, 2021 7:20 pm

Well good luck to you fella, hope it works out...be a shame to lose another pub.

My excitement is actually getting to go out for a beer currently and watch the clarets hospitality is the most undervalued industry out there and hopefully if much of the country are like me I won’t take going out for a meal or a beer for granted again... life is far to short not to enjoy the time you have here

too true... i really miss it.

Bee's Knee's and Coal Yard were our first two stops pre match back in the old days when Football was a spectator sport

We will soon be able to watch live
The atmosphere will be better than ever

Burnley87 wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 17, 2021 4:02 pm

Cheeky get it’s my pub group

Any advice for someone looking to set up a micropub / bottle shop near a football ground in Sheffield? (Sshhh, it's me...and I need help!)
PM me maybe, or email?

Burnley87 wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 17, 2021 4:02 pm

Cheeky get it’s my pub group

Good luck to you mate.

Always call in on match days will you be doing a real ale ?

Yep, good luck and I hope it's a success as I agree, it's awful when you see pubs closing down. Hopefully it will be part of "uplifting" Yorkshire Street generally at some point as I saw some digital designs quite some time ago (on here?) which showed there were definitely plans/ideas to seriously smarten it up. It's the walk which most fans, including away fans and tourists make to the Turf and it's really not great.

Dark Cloud wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 17, 2021 8:02 pm

Yep, good luck and I hope it's a success as I agree, it's awful when you see pubs closing down. Hopefully it will be part of "uplifting" Yorkshire Street generally at some point as I saw some digital designs quite some time ago (on here?) which showed there were definitely plans/ideas to seriously smarten it up. It's the walk which most fans, including away fans and tourists make to the Turf and it's really not great.

Agreed...and the Culvert Bridge has been crying out for some form of Art work for years to capture the imagination.

tim_noone wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 17, 2021 8:12 pm

Agreed...and the Culvert Bridge has been crying out for some form of Art work for years to capture the imagination.

It's Burnley not Barcelona

tim_noone wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 17, 2021 8:12 pm

Agreed...and the Culvert Bridge has been crying out for some form of Art work for years to capture the imagination.

What a jester.

whentheballmoves wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 17, 2021 7:41 pm

Any advice for someone looking to set up a micropub / bottle shop near a football ground in Sheffield? (Sshhh, it's me...and I need help!)
PM me maybe, or email?

Phil@ajppubs.co.Uk send us a load of questions you have and I’ll try and answer them for you.

bfcjg wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 17, 2021 7:56 pm

Always call in on match days will you be doing a real ale ?

Ye we will look to have a line or real however we will be starting to gut the place on Monday so at this stage I wouldn’t know exact details on products etc until nearer the time we are due to open. Fingers crossed it will be for the last game of the season so we can all have a pint and before the game and celebrate the hopeful coming to the end of the pandemic.

tim_noone wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 17, 2021 8:12 pm

Agreed...and the Culvert Bridge has been crying out for some form of Art work for years to capture the imagination.

A little insite into one idea that’s floating about

Plans are to use the side wall of the pub (going towards the old RDA) as a photo opportunity on match days. With relevant authorities allowing we wanted to get a graffiti artist to spray the outside of the Turf so fans can get the opportunity to have pictures with there kids. Just for reference reasons only..

We want to make it into a celebration of the Turf yet we don’t want it to be seen as a rough football pub. Bringing a family element to the pub

bfcmik wrote: ↑

Thu Mar 18, 2021 12:58 am

It's Burnley not Barcelona

Aye Lad... tha's reet.

Burnley87 wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 17, 2021 7:07 pm

We will be spending around 80-90k on it to refurbish it bringing it inline with the rest of our estate which will mean if you don’t respect the pub you will be shown quickly where the door is. I am massively anti drugs in my own life so anybody caught receives a ban from all our sites however I’m not naive enough to think drugs are part of all walks of life and in most establishments so deterring people will be a major policy within the premises

I know our pubs aren’t for everyone and we try to appeal to mass market. We run a business model that is based on volume, good value and keep our pubs modern with a local feel. Anyone who has been into coal yard and bees knees will understand we like a tele or two as well

Good luck in the new venture. I must admit I don't think I would be investing in any hospitality venture at this minute so hats off. I do shd a tear evertime I see a pub changed into a Curry House or Kebab shop so again hats off for saving one.

I didn't often visit The Turf pub, mainly due to clientele and the Royal Dyche was a better feel but if you can change that I'll be in when we're allowed.

bf2k wrote: ↑

Thu Mar 18, 2021 9:44 am

Good luck in the new venture. I must admit I don't think I would be investing in any hospitality venture at this minute so hats off. I do shd a tear evertime I see a pub changed into a Curry House or Kebab shop so again hats off for saving one.

I didn't often visit The Turf pub, mainly due to clientele and the Royal Dyche was a better feel but if you can change that I'll be in when we're allowed.

My Thoughts exactly...Pino who ran a few Bars in Burnley including Kikos near the police station with a lot of investment said he wouldn't open a can of "beans" in Burnley again.

Burnley87 wrote: ↑

Thu Mar 18, 2021 8:09 am

Ye we will look to have a line or real however we will be starting to gut the place on Monday so at this stage I wouldn’t know exact details on products etc until nearer the time we are due to open. Fingers crossed it will be for the last game of the season so we can all have a pint and before the game and celebrate the hopeful coming to the end of the pandemic.

Hope you don't mind but I've emailed to introduce myself!

whentheballmoves wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 17, 2021 7:41 pm

Any advice for someone looking to set up a micropub / bottle shop near a football ground in Sheffield? (Sshhh, it's me...and I need help!)
PM me maybe, or email?

Drop me an email if I can help at all. hello@shadowbrewing.co.uk

tim_noone wrote: ↑

Thu Mar 18, 2021 9:50 am

My Thoughts exactly...Pino who ran a few Bars in Burnley including Kikos near the police station with a lot of investment said he wouldn't open a can of "beans" in Burnley again.

Plenty of businesses have made a roaring success in Burnley.

I've never heard of Pino or Kikos. Which is probably why he failed. It needs advertising and social media presence if it's new or out of the way.

It's a shlthole but so was the Princess Royal,just look at the improvements Justine has made and turned it into a proper football pub,so anythings possible...good luck with the makeover boys.

Hopefully one of the posters on here is Tex, he seems to know a thing or two about turning pubs fortunes around. Sorry do not know his user name.

tim_noone wrote: ↑

Thu Mar 18, 2021 9:50 am

My Thoughts exactly...Pino who ran a few Bars in Burnley including Kikos near the police station with a lot of investment said he wouldn't open a can of "beans" in Burnley again.

Kikos seemed nice, and would probably have done well in Manchester, but sadly it was nearer to Manchester Rd and didnt find its customer base

Few decent pubs along that route now once this is done. Start at the Bridge before it gets too rammed, then Dyche, Turf, vintage claret, then revamped fanzone could work nicely as a pre-match crawl if the facilities are up to scratch

Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑

Thu Mar 18, 2021 10:25 am

Plenty of businesses have made a roaring success in Burnley.

I've never heard of Pino or Kikos. Which is probably why he failed. It needs advertising and social media presence if it's new or out of the way.

Could be wrong but I’m almost certain it was Kokos, nice Italian for a while, I knew the chef Enzo who also had the Italian in crawshawbooth, sadly no longer with us.

Is it not the Musso family who owned it, certainly related if not

We believe it’s the best time to currently invest into hospitality. Obviously good deals are currently out there and if you want to take on a pub then the finance levels involved have never been so good.

Pent up demand will hopefully give us a great second half of 2021 however this is the Third pub we have opened during this Pandemic period.

Tied Pub companies have driven a scar threw the sector in the last 20 years introducing people into pubs some of whom are inexperienced or simply do not have the finance to operate effectively and underinvestment into the pubs. I don’t think there has ever been a better time to invest in the sector. The pub sector just need bringing upto the standards you would expect if you went to Tesco, River Island and a restaurant. Years of underfunding In the sector has resulted in poor quality of establishments. This then drives a business attitude of well it’s a rough hole so we don’t need standards of attitude

ClaretBrewer wrote: ↑

Thu Mar 18, 2021 10:01 am

Hope you don't mind but I've emailed to introduce myself!

Will look at my emails when I get home If that’s ok

tim_noone wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 17, 2021 8:12 pm

Agreed...and the Culvert Bridge has been crying out for some form of Art work for years to capture the imagination.

That would be awful, and just ad to the cheap and tatty look of Yorkshire street

Steve1956 wrote: ↑

Thu Mar 18, 2021 10:26 am

It's a shlthole but so was the Princess Royal,just look at the improvements Justine has made and turned it into a proper football pub,so anythings possible...good luck with the makeover boys.

The town needs an odd shithole. They cater to a niche clientele. Put some cheap beer on keep it simple you will get people in. Forget the real ale mob they only sup a couple of halves anyway.

Seemed to go really strange in the Turf towards the end. Pretty sure they had a load of pink chairs/bar stools that just didn't fit in with the atmosphere/clientele of the place at all.

I agree the Culvert needs something to emphasise it's main gateway to Turf Moor from the town obviously Claret and blue, flags that sort of thing people make the Royal Dyche a must visit these days, you see people being photographed outside if the culvert was similar it would be another talking point for the town.

Bigbopper wrote: ↑

Thu Mar 18, 2021 2:35 pm

The town needs an odd shithole. They cater to a niche clientele. Put some cheap beer on keep it simple you will get people in. Forget the real ale mob they only sup a couple of halves anyway.

You've just described the now defunct brickies. Burnley needs more smart, safe pubs.

bfcjg wrote: ↑

Thu Mar 18, 2021 2:52 pm

You've just described the now defunct brickies. Burnley needs more smart, safe pubs.

So what happens to the clientele that frequented the Brickies and The Turf. They then go into the smart, safe pubs and upset the real ale drinking luvvies. You need pubs were men can congregate,neck 10 pints of Smiths, play Don or Crib and be amongst like-minded people.

Bigbopper wrote: ↑

Thu Mar 18, 2021 3:01 pm

So what happens to the clientele that frequented the Brickies and The Turf. They then go into the smart, safe pubs and upset the real ale drinking luvvies. You need pubs were men can congregate,neck 10 pints of Smiths, play Don or Crib and be amongst like-minded people.

They go to the Prinny, Miners, Oxford, 110 club. Still plenty of options if you prefer the old fashioned, rough and ready type pubs.

The same people who went in the old turf pub will go in the new turf pub no matter the changes

Thats why i always give this one a miss

Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑

Thu Mar 18, 2021 10:25 am

Plenty of businesses have made a roaring success in Burnley.

I've never heard of Pino or Kikos. Which is probably why he failed. It needs advertising and social media presence if it's new or out of the way.

You never heard of Kiko's, wow? It was a very good function venue but possibly just slightly on the outskirts in terms of being successful for a bar. Where it was located it was competing with the Battle Market & Weatherspoons. Totally different clientele.

That said, nightlife in Burnley has changed so much over the last 10 years. It used to be bouncing Thursday, Friday & Saturday night. Even Sunday's weren't bad. Pre-pandemic you were lucky to get a queue at the bar from fewer bars (apart from Smacks which will always find a queue from somewhere ).

jrgbfc wrote: ↑

Thu Mar 18, 2021 3:45 pm

They go to the Prinny, Miners, Oxford, 110 club. Still plenty of options if you prefer the old fashioned, rough and ready type pubs.

Oxford being converted to a housing when I walked past a couple of months ago.

Bigbopper wrote: ↑

Thu Mar 18, 2021 3:01 pm

So what happens to the clientele that frequented the Brickies and The Turf. They then go into the smart, safe pubs and upset the real ale drinking luvvies. You need pubs were men can congregate,neck 10 pints of Smiths, play Don or Crib and be amongst like-minded people.

I really have had a sheltered life and humbly bow to your idea of a good night out.

Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑

Thu Mar 18, 2021 10:25 am

Plenty of businesses have made a roaring success in Burnley.

I've never heard of Pino or Kikos. Which is probably why he failed. It needs advertising and social media presence if it's new or out of the way.

Chester Perry wrote: ↑

Thu Mar 18, 2021 12:10 pm

That would be awful, and just ad to the cheap and tatty look of Yorkshire street

Ok.

I remember once going to the toilet in Bees knees, what ever it was called before that, and Burnley87 pointing my dad out who was sat on his own and had drank one pint, they grabbed him and started trying to throw him out until they realised it was the wrong person and let him go. Never got chance to thank you for that Phil

Chester Perry wrote: ↑

Thu Mar 18, 2021 12:10 pm

That would be awful, and just ad to the cheap and tatty look of Yorkshire street

I cant agree with that.

Burnley1989 wrote: ↑

Thu Mar 18, 2021 7:31 pm

I remember once going to the toilet in Bees knees, what ever it was called before that, and Burnley87 pointing my dad out who was sat on his own and had drank one pint, they grabbed him and started trying to throw him out until they realised it was the wrong person and let him go. Never got chance to thank you for that Phil

I can’t remember that.... hope your well