Can Pep and City claim the quadruple

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Can Pep and City claim the quadruple

Post by tiger76 » Thu Mar 18, 2021 10:16 pm

Tough ask but if any club can they can.

The league is already in the bag.

They'll be heavy favourites in the LC final.

They are in the last 8 of the CL.

And also the last 8 in the FA Cup.

So it's definitely on, and they came close a couple of seasons ago, before unlucky going out to Spurs in the CL.

And when you look at their squad depth, and the fact that even their 2nd string would be packed full of international stars they have every chance with an element of lady luck on their side.

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Re: Can Pep and City claim the quadruple

Post by Devils_Advocate » Thu Mar 18, 2021 10:18 pm

I dont think so but if they do then its probably the greatest management achievement in the history of the game
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Re: Can Pep and City claim the quadruple

Post by Claret Toni » Thu Mar 18, 2021 10:20 pm

Shouldn't be a problem, they regularly claim a quintuple against us.

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Re: Can Pep and City claim the quadruple

Post by Quickenthetempo » Thu Mar 18, 2021 10:23 pm

The one worry for them is they can't take penalties.

At some stage it will cost them. Like missing one in the first leg at Spurs.

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Re: Can Pep and City claim the quadruple

Post by MrTopTier » Thu Mar 18, 2021 10:25 pm

They may get a treble, but won’t win the European Cup, simply because there isn’t the know-how of how to do it. Liverpool, Chelsea, Real all been there before and done it. Then there is Bayern Munich. An interesting debate but for me,nah.

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Re: Can Pep and City claim the quadruple

Post by FCBurnley » Thu Mar 18, 2021 10:25 pm

I don’t care
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Re: Can Pep and City claim the quadruple

Post by Claret Toni » Thu Mar 18, 2021 10:27 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Thu Mar 18, 2021 10:23 pm
The one worry for them is they can't take penalties.
I seriously think they would solve that if they let Ederson take the penalties.

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Re: Can Pep and City claim the quadruple

Post by MT03ALG » Thu Mar 18, 2021 10:28 pm

Manchester City First Team may well win the Champions League and the Premier League
Manchester City Reserves may well win the FA Cup and the League Cup
As Pep truthfully stated when asked why they were a good team: 'We spend the most money'
No further comment required.
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Re: Can Pep and City claim the quadruple

Post by bobinho » Thu Mar 18, 2021 10:29 pm

Yes they can.

They are good at winning football matches... that’s what required, not some mythical formula that they don’t have but Liverpool do.

Whoever beats Bayern wins it imho.

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Re: Can Pep and City claim the quadruple

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Thu Mar 18, 2021 10:42 pm

It's the champions league they need to win.

That's been the biggest question mark over Pep since he left Barca.

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Re: Can Pep and City claim the quadruple

Post by Bcrollerz » Fri Mar 19, 2021 12:13 am

They are the best club side in the world right now

I think they can do it

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Re: Can Pep and City claim the quadruple

Post by Bcrollerz » Fri Mar 19, 2021 12:13 am

bobinho wrote:
Thu Mar 18, 2021 10:29 pm
Yes they can.

They are good at winning football matches... that’s what required, not some mythical formula that they don’t have but Liverpool do.

Whoever beats Bayern wins it imho.
And bayern have been so dodgy recently both league and cup

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Re: Can Pep and City claim the quadruple

Post by houseboy » Fri Mar 19, 2021 12:42 am

It doesn’t matter really. I used to like City and still don’t dislike them but if they do achieve it it is simply because they have bought it. The sheer wealth behind them makes it almost impossible for any club to get near what they have done in a few short years. Throw enough money at something and eventually you will succeed. What Leicester achieved a few years ago far surpasses anything City might achieve in my opinion.
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Re: Can Pep and City claim the quadruple

Post by Steve1956 » Fri Mar 19, 2021 8:38 am

MrTopTier wrote:
Thu Mar 18, 2021 10:25 pm
They may get a treble, but won’t win the European Cup, simply because there isn’t the know-how of how to do it. Liverpool, Chelsea, Real all been there before and done it. Then there is Bayern Munich. An interesting debate but for me,nah.
I think they will and Pep has the know-how

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Re: Can Pep and City claim the quadruple

Post by Quickenthetempo » Fri Mar 19, 2021 10:19 am

houseboy wrote:
Fri Mar 19, 2021 12:42 am
It doesn’t matter really. I used to like City and still don’t dislike them but if they do achieve it it is simply because they have bought it. The sheer wealth behind them makes it almost impossible for any club to get near what they have done in a few short years. Throw enough money at something and eventually you will succeed. What Leicester achieved a few years ago far surpasses anything City might achieve in my opinion.
If it was purely down to money then why didn't Blackburn win the quadruple when outspending everyone?

I know it helps a lot but it's not enough on it's own.

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Re: Can Pep and City claim the quadruple

Post by Sproggy » Fri Mar 19, 2021 11:01 am

They should do. They've taken the best team in the country and spent a billion quid.

I hope they don't.

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Re: Can Pep and City claim the quadruple

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Fri Mar 19, 2021 11:43 am

They've got Dortmund next up...

Haaland should tear them a new one.
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Re: Can Pep and City claim the quadruple

Post by djemba-djemba » Fri Mar 19, 2021 1:52 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Fri Mar 19, 2021 11:43 am
They've got Dortmund next up...

Haaland should tear them a new one.
Fancy City to progress in that one. Dortmund have looked miles off it in the Bundesliga this season.

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Re: Can Pep and City claim the quadruple

Post by Jakubs Tash » Fri Mar 19, 2021 2:52 pm

It really annoys me that people refer to Guardiola as Pep.....Can't stand City or 'Pep' so couldn't care less what they do.

Glad I got that off my chest.....

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Re: Can Pep and City claim the quadruple

Post by Vegas Claret » Fri Mar 19, 2021 3:50 pm

they'll win the treble, it's going to take an outstanding team to beat Bayern in the CL with their quality and experience

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Re: Can Pep and City claim the quadruple

Post by Burnley1989 » Fri Mar 19, 2021 4:44 pm

It’s the same in any sport, those that invest the most are usually the most successful, I’m not really bothered though, it’s the governing bodies fault for not controlling it.

For what it’s worth, I hope they do, they’re certainly in with a shout! I don’t think they win the champs league though.

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Re: Can Pep and City claim the quadruple

Post by Rileybobs » Fri Mar 19, 2021 4:45 pm

They can but they won’t.

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Re: Can Pep and City claim the quadruple

Post by KRBFC » Fri Mar 19, 2021 4:48 pm

Jakubs Tash wrote:
Fri Mar 19, 2021 2:52 pm
It really annoys me that people refer to Guardiola as Pep.....Can't stand City or 'Pep' so couldn't care less what they do.

Glad I got that off my chest.....
If it annoys you that people refer to someone by their first name then seek immediate help.
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Re: Can Pep and City claim the quadruple

Post by CardiffClaret » Fri Mar 19, 2021 5:42 pm

MrTopTier wrote:
Thu Mar 18, 2021 10:25 pm
They may get a treble, but won’t win the European Cup, simply because there isn’t the know-how of how to do it. Liverpool, Chelsea, Real all been there before and done it. Then there is Bayern Munich. An interesting debate but for me,nah.
I've always thought this emphasis on having the "know-how" to win a particular competition is massively over-hyped. At the end of the day, it's just about winning football matches, and we know Man City know how to do that. To my mind, it's kind of irrelevant what competition that is in. The major factor is more just the quality of the opposition and the form of the team. I suspect that previous experience of winning a specific competition comes way down the list in terms of influencing the chance of a team winning that competition, certainly below the quality of the team and how well they are managed. And a cup competition like the Champions League knock out stages comes down a lot to luck in the end anyway.

In any case, I doubt there are many players or staff left from that Chelsea team who won the Champions League still at Chelsea, and it wouldn't surprise me at all if there are more players / key staff at Man City who have won the Champions League than at Chelsea
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Re: Can Pep and City claim the quadruple

Post by yTib » Fri Mar 19, 2021 5:47 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote:
Thu Mar 18, 2021 10:18 pm
I dont think so but if they do then its probably the greatest management achievement in the history of the game
nah that would be allen batsford's wimbledon beating burnley in 1975 ;)

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Re: Can Pep and City claim the quadruple

Post by Devils_Advocate » Fri Mar 19, 2021 5:50 pm

One for the boffins but can you be knighted if you are not British? If you can and Pep pulls off the miracle quadruple then he's got to be in with a good chance of getting one

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Re: Can Pep and City claim the quadruple

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Fri Mar 19, 2021 5:53 pm

Honorary knighthoods are available and have been given.

If he gets one of those I'm pretty sure he will have KRBFC trying to hump his leg.
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Re: Can Pep and City claim the quadruple

Post by Spijed » Fri Mar 19, 2021 6:01 pm

CardiffClaret wrote:
Fri Mar 19, 2021 5:42 pm
I've always thought this emphasis on having the "know-how" to win a particular competition is massively over-hyped. At the end of the day, it's just about winning football matches, and we know Man City know how to do that.
And to date that's been the problem with Guardiola. He simply doesn't know how to win games in the CL with Man City. He's had a big problem when it comes to the opposition in the later stages of the competition, going no further than the QF's.

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Re: Can Pep and City claim the quadruple

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Fri Mar 19, 2021 6:11 pm

Spijed wrote:
Fri Mar 19, 2021 6:01 pm
And to date that's been the problem with Guardiola. He simply doesn't know how to win games in the CL with Man City. He's had a big problem when it comes to the opposition in the later stages of the competition, going no further than the QF's.
That's why he wanted to sign Messi.

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Re: Can Pep and City claim the quadruple

Post by CardiffClaret » Fri Mar 19, 2021 6:39 pm

Spijed wrote:
Fri Mar 19, 2021 6:01 pm
And to date that's been the problem with Guardiola. He simply doesn't know how to win games in the CL with Man City. He's had a big problem when it comes to the opposition in the later stages of the competition, going no further than the QF's.
Do you not think a lot of that is just down to luck??

How many years has Guardiola been at City? 4? To me it’s not that surprising that haven’t got past the quarter finals. At the end of the day it’s a cup competition, and the low scoring nature of football means the better team can and often does lose. Over the course of a league season that evens itself out and the best team wins the league, but in a cup competition there is a lot more luck involved. And especially given the caliber of teams at the knockout stages of the champions league I really don’t think Man City’s performance under Guardiola is that unusual. I just think it has a lot more to do with luck than mentality. If it was a league competition then I’m sure Man City would have won by now if not have seriously challenged

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Re: Can Pep and City claim the quadruple

Post by bfcjg » Fri Mar 19, 2021 7:39 pm

Possibly, amazing what the loose change from one of the richest men in the world can buy.

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Re: Can Pep and City claim the quadruple

Post by Jakubs Tash » Fri Mar 19, 2021 7:48 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Fri Mar 19, 2021 4:48 pm
If it annoys you that people refer to someone by their first name then seek immediate help.
Ok, thanks Kevin.

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Re: Can Pep and City claim the quadruple

Post by BurnleyFC » Fri Mar 19, 2021 8:39 pm

Possibly, but nobody really cares if they do or don’t.

It always amuses me how Man City fans like to talk the talk about clubs like Liverpool and Man United - ‘bin dippers’ this, ‘Rags’ that. They’re like the kid at school that nobody really bothers with but likes to act cool to get in with the crowd.

The truth is that Liverpool and Man United aren’t really Man City’s proper rivals. They’re probably a bit envious of the funding that the Sheikh provides them but that’s about it.

A totally classless club.

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Re: Can Pep and City claim the quadruple

Post by Devils_Advocate » Fri Mar 19, 2021 8:57 pm

BurnleyFC wrote:
Fri Mar 19, 2021 8:39 pm
Possibly, but nobody really cares if they do or don’t.
Someone's on a 'I don't care, but I'll post about it anyway' hat-trick'

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Re: Can Pep and City claim the quadruple

Post by CombatClaret » Fri Mar 19, 2021 9:48 pm

Even at peak performance and with a deep squad the odds of winning every game required in both the league and three knock out cup competitions, even as the favorite in each induvial game is very, very low.

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Re: Can Pep and City claim the quadruple

Post by houseboy » Sat Mar 20, 2021 9:10 am

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Fri Mar 19, 2021 10:19 am
If it was purely down to money then why didn't Blackburn win the quadruple when outspending everyone?

I know it helps a lot but it's not enough on it's own.
They did win the PL against all the odds and I doubt they spent the pro rata equivalent of City. And even City haven’t won all four yet.

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