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Burnley Red Card

Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2021 6:46 pm
by Yeovil1951
I was looking at the Premier League Red Card Table and Burnley are down for one Red Card this season when did this happen?

Re: Burnley Red Card

Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2021 6:48 pm
by HunterST_BFC
Jays haircut

Re: Burnley Red Card

Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2021 6:48 pm
by TheFamilyCat
West Brom at home. We did well to hold them to a draw only having 10 men.

Re: Burnley Red Card

Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2021 6:49 pm
by jdrobbo
When Erik Pieters got sent off v Arsenal and had it overturned, but the FA decided that Burnley are so bloody disciplined (Keith Treacy v West Ham in the league cup, our last red at Turf Moor), that they insisted on giving us a red!




Seriously, it’s there in error!

Re: Burnley Red Card

Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2021 6:50 pm
by wilks_bfc
Yeovil1951 wrote:
Fri Mar 19, 2021 6:46 pm
I was looking at the Premier League Red Card Table and Burnley are down for one Red Card this season when did this happen?
Can only assume they were quick off the mark durning the Arsenal game and it’s the rescinded Pieters one

Re: Burnley Red Card

Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2021 6:55 pm
by JohnMac
It's the Red we get in the next game just to balance things out :shock:

Re: Burnley Red Card

Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2021 6:58 pm
by RammyClaret61
VAR is still checking it.

Re: Burnley Red Card

Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2021 7:34 pm
by MT03ALG
We are 4th. in the Fair Play League with 39 yellows and no reds.

Re: Burnley Red Card

Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2021 7:40 pm
by TheFamilyCat
MT03ALG wrote:
Fri Mar 19, 2021 7:34 pm
We are 4th. in the Fair Play League with 39 yellows and no reds.
That can't be right. We're a bunch of dirty thugs, aren't we?

Re: Burnley Red Card

Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2021 11:50 pm
by dsr
Even Arsenal fans (10 red cards in a season and a bit, 8 of them straight red) complained in advance that their players were at risk of injury. 90 minutes and 4 fouls later, I didn't see many signs that they realised they were wrong.

Re: Burnley Red Card

Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 9:06 am
by Bfc
Have we ever had a Red card at home, in the Premier League?. What's our total number of Red cards in Premier League games?.

Re: Burnley Red Card

Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 9:07 am
by Dark Cloud
I can definitely feel this thread bringing a red card next time we play!!! :shock:

Re: Burnley Red Card

Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 9:47 am
by Ashingtonclaret46
Bfc wrote:
Sat Mar 20, 2021 9:06 am
Have we ever had a Red card at home, in the Premier League?. What's our total number of Red cards in Premier League games?.
In spite of the PL official website saying that we have had 8 red cards in the PL, I think that we have only had 7.

2009/10 x 2 : 2014/15 x 2: 2016/17 x 2: 2018/19 x 1: The last player to be dismissed was Robbie Brady on 2 January 2019 when he came on as a sub in the 67th minute and was sent off in the 90th minute by Mike Dean.

They are still showing 1 for this season and this is incorrect and they need to get a grip! :D

Re: Burnley Red Card

Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 11:04 am
by duncandisorderly
I'm sure had one in 09/10 rescinded, so perhaps a more accurate question would be 'how many players have been suspended as a result of red cards' in which case the correct answer would only be 6, I think.

Re: Burnley Red Card

Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 11:17 am
by wilks_bfc
duncandisorderly wrote:
Sat Mar 20, 2021 11:04 am
I'm sure had one in 09/10 rescinded, so perhaps a more accurate question would be 'how many players have been suspended as a result of red cards' in which case the correct answer would only be 6, I think.
Was that the Duff one at West Ham? (or was that a second yellow)

Re: Burnley Red Card

Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 12:23 pm
by Ashingtonclaret46
wilks_bfc wrote:
Sat Mar 20, 2021 11:17 am
Was that the Duff one at West Ham? (or was that a second yellow)
You are correct. Michael Duff appealed and that was rescinded in May 2015 --it was for a straight red for denying a goalscoring opportunity.
Of the other 6 issued, 3 were for second yellows and 3 were straight red.
Caldwell straight red in 90th minute v West Ham in 2009. Brady straght red in 90th minute v Huddersfield in 2019 and Jeff Hendrick in 6th minute v Watford in 2017.
One of the second yellows issued to Ashley Barnes was also in the 90th minute v Hull in 2017. Ashley was also dismissed for a second yellow at Everton in 2015. Stephen Jordan was also dismissed for a second yellow against Everton in 2009.

Re: Burnley Red Card

Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 12:27 pm
by ClaretTony
Bfc wrote:
Sat Mar 20, 2021 9:06 am
Have we ever had a Red card at home, in the Premier League?. What's our total number of Red cards in Premier League games?.
None at home

2009/10
Steven Caldwell v West Ham (a)
Stephen Jordan v Everton (a)

2014/15
Ashley Barnes v Everton (a)
Michael Duff v West Ham (a) - overturned

2016/17
Jeff Hendrick v Watford (a)
Ashley Barnes v Hull (a)

2017/18
none

2018/19
Robbie Brady v Huddersfield (a)

2019/20
none

2020/21
none to date

Re: Burnley Red Card

Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 12:33 pm
by ClaretTony
Yeovil1951 wrote:
Fri Mar 19, 2021 6:46 pm
I was looking at the Premier League Red Card Table and Burnley are down for one Red Card this season when did this happen?
I've taken a look at this and we are down for one red card although it is not the Pieters rescinded one because he's down for no red cards.

Re: Burnley Red Card

Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 3:23 pm
by dsr
ClaretTony wrote:
Sat Mar 20, 2021 12:27 pm
None at home

2009/10
Steven Caldwell v West Ham (a)
Stephen Jordan v Everton (a)

2014/15
Ashley Barnes v Everton (a)
Michael Duff v West Ham (a) - overturned

2016/17
Jeff Hendrick v Watford (a)
Ashley Barnes v Hull (a)

2017/18
none

2018/19
Robbie Brady v Huddersfield (a)

2019/20
none

2020/21
none to date
And that begs the question, when did we last have a player sent off at Turf Moor in the top division?

Re: Burnley Red Card

Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 3:45 pm
by ClaretTony
dsr wrote:
Sat Mar 20, 2021 3:23 pm
And that begs the question, when did we last have a player sent off at Turf Moor in the top division?
Back in the 1970s obviously but I've no idea who. I know Hankin went against Leeds in 74/75 but beyond that I'm not sure.

Re: Burnley Red Card

Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 3:52 pm
by dsr
ClaretTony wrote:
Sat Mar 20, 2021 3:45 pm
Back in the 1970s obviously but I've no idea who. I know Hankin went against Leeds in 74/75 but beyond that I'm not sure.
I know they were rare in the fifties and sixties - wasn't Billy Elliot's "look of intent" the only one in the first twenty year or so post-war? But I dare say by the 1970's they had become a bit more common. I wouldn't know where to look, though.

But as that was before the days of red cards, we can presumably say that no BFC player has ever been given a red card at Turf Moor in the top division. Unless someone ants to be literal and say that Pieters was!

Re: Burnley Red Card

Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 4:01 pm
by ClaretTony
dsr wrote:
Sat Mar 20, 2021 3:52 pm
I know they were rare in the fifties and sixties - wasn't Billy Elliot's "look of intent" the only one in the first twenty year or so post-war? But I dare say by the 1970's they had become a bit more common. I wouldn't know where to look, though.

But as that was before the days of red cards, we can presumably say that no BFC player has ever been given a red card at Turf Moor in the top division. Unless someone ants to be literal and say that Pieters was!
Red cards introduced in 1976/77 just after we'd been relegated.

Re: Burnley Red Card

Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 4:12 pm
by SalisburyClaret
In terms of red cards - we’re top of the fair play league for the last 2 seasons

Re: Burnley Red Card

Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 5:00 pm
by dsr
ClaretTony wrote:
Sat Mar 20, 2021 4:01 pm
Red cards introduced in 1976/77 just after we'd been relegated.
Thanks. That's quite a few years before I'd have guessed at.

Re: Burnley Red Card

Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 7:48 pm
by Ashingtonclaret46
ClaretTony wrote:
Sat Mar 20, 2021 12:33 pm
I've taken a look at this and we are down for one red card although it is not the Pieters rescinded one because he's down for no red cards.
Tony, what you say is correct, however, when the card was issued to Pieters it was shown on the PL stats and it was only later that it was removed from Pieters name. It would appear that there is a glitch in their system because it was not removed from the other stats.

Re: Burnley Red Card

Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 8:18 pm
by ClaretTony
Ashingtonclaret46 wrote:
Sat Mar 20, 2021 7:48 pm
Tony, what you say is correct, however, when the card was issued to Pieters it was shown on the PL stats and it was only later that it was removed from Pieters name. It would appear that there is a glitch in their system because it was not removed from the other stats.
So the Premier League don’t understand VAR either

Re: Burnley Red Card

Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 8:28 pm
by Bosscat
ClaretTony wrote:
Sat Mar 20, 2021 8:18 pm
So the Premier League don’t understand VAR either
Obviously as its down as a Pieters Red but 0 cards 🤣🤣🤣
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Re: Burnley Red Card

Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 8:38 pm
by ClaretTony
Bosscat wrote:
Sat Mar 20, 2021 8:28 pm
Obviously as its down as a Pieters Red but 0 cards 🤣🤣🤣
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We’ve already confirmed that. It’s what we are trying to decipher.

Re: Burnley Red Card

Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 8:50 pm
by MT03ALG
Dark Cloud wrote:
Sat Mar 20, 2021 9:07 am
I can definitely feel this thread bringing a red card next time we play!!! :shock:
Wait and see if we get Oliver !!

Re: Burnley Red Card

Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 9:39 pm
by IanMcL
Ashingtonclaret46 wrote:
Sat Mar 20, 2021 12:23 pm
You are correct. Michael Duff appealed and that was rescinded in May 2015 --it was for a straight red for denying a goalscoring opportunity.
Of the other 6 issued, 3 were for second yellows and 3 were straight red.
Caldwell straight red in 90th minute v West Ham in 2009. Brady straght red in 90th minute v Huddersfield in 2019 and Jeff Hendrick in 6th minute v Watford in 2017.
One of the second yellows issued to Ashley Barnes was also in the 90th minute v Hull in 2017. Ashley was also dismissed for a second yellow at Everton in 2015. Stephen Jordan was also dismissed for a second yellow against Everton in 2009.
Caldwell's was a superb tackle!

Re: Burnley Red Card

Posted: Sat Apr 03, 2021 7:23 pm
by Leisure
Was the last one at home Duff in 2004?

Re: Burnley Red Card

Posted: Sat Apr 03, 2021 7:25 pm
by ClaretTony
Leisure wrote:
Sat Apr 03, 2021 7:23 pm
Was the last one at home Duff in 2004?
Trippier in 2012 and Marney & Treacy in 2013 were the last ones at home.

Re: Burnley Red Card

Posted: Sat Apr 03, 2021 7:54 pm
by Leisure
ClaretTony wrote:
Sat Apr 03, 2021 7:25 pm
Trippier in 2012 and Marney & Treacy in 2013 were the last ones at home.
I think that Tracy's was in the Carabao Cup v West Ham but when was Marney's?

Re: Burnley Red Card

Posted: Sat Apr 03, 2021 8:04 pm
by ClaretTony
Leisure wrote:
Sat Apr 03, 2021 7:54 pm
I think that Tracy's was in the Carabao Cup v West Ham but when was Marney's?
Treacy’s in League Cup v West Ham but Trippier v Charlton & Marney v Birmingham (although rescinded on appeal) were in 2012/13 season.

Re: Burnley Red Card

Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2021 8:17 am
by CharlieinNewMexico
I didn’t really agree with Brady’s either. It wasn’t DOACGO as it was still in their half and it wasn’t particularly dangerous although I’ll admit he was about 10 yards from the ball :)

Re: Burnley Red Card

Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2021 10:20 am
by Targetman
I remember as a young schoolboy seeing Frank Casper get sent off at the Turf after punching a Manchester United player.
I think that might have been late 1960's?