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Kane Penalty

Post by IanMcL » Sun Mar 21, 2021 8:57 pm

wins penalty by moving deliberately into defenders line and taking a hit. That is just the lowest form of cheating.

Harry Kane- CHEAT CHEAT CHEAT
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Re: Kane Penalty

Post by FCBurnley » Sun Mar 21, 2021 8:59 pm

Looked that way to me

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Re: Kane Penalty

Post by KRBFC » Sun Mar 21, 2021 9:00 pm

He moved into the defenders line to let the ball run for a corner kick, the defender recklessly sliding for no reason won the penalty for Spurs.

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Re: Kane Penalty

Post by ClaretTony » Sun Mar 21, 2021 9:03 pm

Clear penalty.
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Re: Kane Penalty

Post by tiger76 » Sun Mar 21, 2021 9:04 pm

Villa weren't kicking up a fuss at the decision, mind you they aren't exactly immune to "winning" penalties are they.

A bigger worry for Villa must be without Grealish their form has nosedived, now I'm not saying they're a one man team, but it can't be a coincidence they've struggled in his absence, as they did for long spells last season also when he was out.

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Re: Kane Penalty

Post by chekhov » Sun Mar 21, 2021 9:06 pm

Me, I thought it was a nonsense of a penalty. Baffling decision, the ball was already out of play, and Kane wasn’t even attempting to play it.
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Re: Kane Penalty

Post by randomclaret2 » Sun Mar 21, 2021 9:07 pm

He did what any decent striker would do.Its up to the referee then.

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Re: Kane Penalty

Post by Claretincraven » Sun Mar 21, 2021 9:10 pm

Never a penalty in a million years. Will be interesting to hear what Moanrinho thinks after he went off on one last week after the Arsenal game.
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Re: Kane Penalty

Post by huw.Y.WattfromWare » Sun Mar 21, 2021 9:12 pm

Got me wondering how Villa will go next year if Grealish moves on.

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Re: Kane Penalty

Post by boatshed bill » Sun Mar 21, 2021 9:13 pm

Claretincraven wrote:
Sun Mar 21, 2021 9:10 pm
Never a penalty in a million years. Will be interesting to hear what Moanrinho thinks after he went off on one last week after the Arsenal game.
Unfortunately it is a penalty in the modern era.
The game is going to the dogs in my opinion, but has never been more valuable.

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Re: Kane Penalty

Post by elwaclaret » Sun Mar 21, 2021 9:15 pm

IanMcL wrote:
Sun Mar 21, 2021 8:57 pm
wins penalty by moving deliberately into defenders line and taking a hit. That is just the lowest form of cheating.

Harry Kane- CHEAT CHEAT CHEAT
Does similar every other week somewhere on the pitch, it is even highlighted on a very good piece doing the rounds on both major social media providers and talked about on the institution of MOTD... I used to really really like him, but when I first started to notice it and then saw that it was a regular thing...ABSOLUTELY it is cheating, cowardly and disgusting. I now dispose him for it, but others call it “winning”. Typical of why football has become so corrupted it is barely recognised as sport anymore... it’s just business with a ball... that WE pay to watch, on a similar principle you pay at the theatre, VAR the evil overlord and referees as pantomime dames.

Until football get serious about being an honest game, and terms like “winning” decisions called out for what they are it is simply not credible that any part of the football tree is honest, from the very top down...
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Re: Kane Penalty

Post by huw.Y.WattfromWare » Sun Mar 21, 2021 9:17 pm

How’s the fashionista, Jock Wan, playing. That is some obsession to say SD has been wearing the same coat for 5 years.

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Re: Kane Penalty

Post by claptrappers_union » Sun Mar 21, 2021 9:17 pm

VAR cheat

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Re: Kane Penalty

Post by boatshed bill » Sun Mar 21, 2021 9:19 pm

elwaclaret wrote:
Sun Mar 21, 2021 9:15 pm
Does similar every other week somewhere on the pitch, it is even highlighted on a very good piece doing the rounds on both major social media providers and talked about on the institution of MOTD... I used to really really like him, but when I first started to notice it and then saw that it was a regular thing...ABSOLUTELY it is cheating, cowardly and disgusting. I now dispose him for it, but others call it “winning”. Typical of why football has become so corrupted it is barely recognised as sport anymore... it’s just business with a ball... that WE pay to watch, on a similar principle you pay at the theatre, VAR the evil overlord and referees as pantomime dames.

Until football get serious about being an honest game, and terms like “winning” decisions called out for what they are it is simply not credible that any part of the football tree is honest, from the very top down...
Terrific post, couldn't agree more.
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Re: Kane Penalty

Post by ClaretTony » Sun Mar 21, 2021 9:19 pm

chekhov wrote:
Sun Mar 21, 2021 9:06 pm
Me, I thought it was a nonsense of a penalty. Baffling decision, the ball was already out of play, and Kane wasn’t even attempting to play it.
The ball is still in play when Kane was fouled

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Re: Kane Penalty

Post by Winstonswhite » Sun Mar 21, 2021 9:19 pm

Kanes one of the biggest cheats in football but that was a clear penalty.

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Re: Kane Penalty

Post by claptrappers_union » Sun Mar 21, 2021 9:20 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Sun Mar 21, 2021 9:00 pm
He moved into the defenders line to let the ball run for a corner kick, the defender recklessly sliding for no reason won the penalty for Spurs.
He is sliding to stop the potential cross, he is far enough away from Kane and the ball to do this, Kane moves towards the defender and falls over.

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Re: Kane Penalty

Post by Devils_Advocate » Sun Mar 21, 2021 9:21 pm

I've not seen it but it sounds like a definite penalty to me
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Re: Kane Penalty

Post by ClaretTony » Sun Mar 21, 2021 9:21 pm

Winstonswhite wrote:
Sun Mar 21, 2021 9:19 pm
Kanes one of the biggest cheats in football but that was a clear penalty.
Seems some are believing the reputation, which I believe to be a fair one, rather than looking at the incident. I don’t see how that could be anything but a penalty.

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Re: Kane Penalty

Post by boatshed bill » Sun Mar 21, 2021 9:25 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote:
Sun Mar 21, 2021 9:21 pm
I've not seen it but it sounds like a definite penalty to me
Of course it's a penalty. The ref has given it ;)

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Re: Kane Penalty

Post by NewClaret » Sun Mar 21, 2021 9:25 pm

chekhov wrote:
Sun Mar 21, 2021 9:06 pm
Me, I thought it was a nonsense of a penalty. Baffling decision, the ball was already out of play, and Kane wasn’t even attempting to play it.
Ball definitely not out of play when the foul was made.
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Re: Kane Penalty

Post by claptrappers_union » Sun Mar 21, 2021 9:26 pm

So basically, if your between the ball and the defender sliding, leave the ball to go out of play and go to the defender instead?

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Re: Kane Penalty

Post by NewClaret » Sun Mar 21, 2021 9:27 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Sun Mar 21, 2021 9:21 pm
Seems some are believing the reputation, which I believe to be a fair one, rather than looking at the incident. I don’t see how that could be anything but a penalty.
This. Cash slides in and clatters him. Brainless defending.

Kane may have been looking for it, but if you take a player out in the box it’s a clear cut pen.

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Re: Kane Penalty

Post by claptrappers_union » Sun Mar 21, 2021 9:28 pm

He didn’t take him out though, Kane went to him
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Re: Kane Penalty

Post by tiger76 » Sun Mar 21, 2021 9:29 pm

huw.Y.WattfromWare wrote:
Sun Mar 21, 2021 9:12 pm
Got me wondering how Villa will go next year if Grealish moves on.
Big if but if he goes to one of the really big boys Villa could struggle without him, great news for us if he moves on though, the more teams in the relegation mix the better as far as we're concerned.

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Re: Kane Penalty

Post by huw.Y.WattfromWare » Sun Mar 21, 2021 9:30 pm

Every player, both forwards and defenders, gets their body between the ball and the opponent, to shepherd it out. What’s the defender doing sliding in when he is so far from the ball?

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Re: Kane Penalty

Post by NewClaret » Sun Mar 21, 2021 9:36 pm

claptrappers_union wrote:
Sun Mar 21, 2021 9:28 pm
He didn’t take him out though, Kane went to him
Really?

Here is Cash flying in with his karate kick
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Re: Kane Penalty

Post by NewClaret » Sun Mar 21, 2021 9:37 pm

Then here he is just before contact - doesn’t change direction too much to me
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Re: Kane Penalty

Post by claptrappers_union » Sun Mar 21, 2021 9:50 pm

He leaves the ball and his moves towards Cash with his outside foot - it should be a foul on Cash

Look at your first image, he is sliding to stop the expected cross, there absolutely no intent to even take Kane
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Re: Kane Penalty

Post by ClaretTony » Sun Mar 21, 2021 9:51 pm

claptrappers_union wrote:
Sun Mar 21, 2021 9:28 pm
He didn’t take him out though, Kane went to him
Are you serious?

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Re: Kane Penalty

Post by ClaretTony » Sun Mar 21, 2021 9:51 pm

claptrappers_union wrote:
Sun Mar 21, 2021 9:50 pm
He leaves the ball and his moves towards Cash with his outside foot - it should be a foul on Cash
And pray what foul has Kane committed?

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Re: Kane Penalty

Post by claptrappers_union » Sun Mar 21, 2021 9:55 pm

Look at it, Kane leaves the ball and steps towards Cash

https://twitter.com/garylineker/status/ ... 40296?s=21

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Re: Kane Penalty

Post by NewClaret » Sun Mar 21, 2021 9:58 pm

claptrappers_union wrote:
Sun Mar 21, 2021 9:50 pm
He leaves the ball and his moves towards Cash with his outside foot - it should be a foul on Cash

Look at your first image, he is sliding to stop the expected cross, there absolutely no intent to even take Kane
He’s not sliding, he’s flying through the air :lol:

Kane doesn’t move, he just waits to get clattered by Cash, which he’s entitled to do. There’s no rules saying you have to avoid players lunging in with reckless tackles.

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Re: Kane Penalty

Post by addisclaret » Sun Mar 21, 2021 9:59 pm

Cheating **** why is he holding his shin when he rolls on the floor? Nowhere near the top of his leg if there was indeed any contact.

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Re: Kane Penalty

Post by claptrappers_union » Sun Mar 21, 2021 10:01 pm

So how does he stop the cross if he’s not ‘flying through the air’

Kane makes no attempt to play the ball, he steps over it and moves his weight towards Cash.

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Re: Kane Penalty

Post by Devils_Advocate » Sun Mar 21, 2021 10:04 pm

There's no cross to stop. Kane dummys it to let it go for a corner and Cash catches Kane. Kane is under no obligation to play the ball just cos Cash thinks he's gonna cross it.

Threads like this where people interpret things so differently shows why being a ref is an impossible and thankless task

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Re: Kane Penalty

Post by addisclaret » Sun Mar 21, 2021 10:09 pm

Seen it again on his own twitter feed; pathetic.

Ruining the game is this kind of cheating, ensuring there is contact with no intention of playing the ball.

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Re: Kane Penalty

Post by Gp8419 » Sun Mar 21, 2021 10:29 pm

Never a pen ruining football as a spectacle giving one for that!

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Re: Kane Penalty

Post by Stacky_claret » Sun Mar 21, 2021 10:33 pm

I think the correct word is unsporting rather than cheating
It’s not the game it once was unfortunately
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Re: Kane Penalty

Post by NewClaret » Sun Mar 21, 2021 10:33 pm

claptrappers_union wrote:
Sun Mar 21, 2021 10:01 pm
So how does he stop the cross if he’s not ‘flying through the air’

Kane makes no attempt to play the ball, he steps over it and moves his weight towards Cash.
I can’t see why it matters if he was attempting to block the cross or not? He clatters him so it’s a pen.

It’s a bit like saying ‘he was trying to make a tackle’ or ‘he was trying to win the ball’ when a player turns someone in the penalty area and gets fouled. If you make a challenge and take the player not the ball, it’s a pen.

Pope won the ball vs Leeds and it was still a pen!!

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Re: Kane Penalty

Post by DCWat » Sun Mar 21, 2021 10:37 pm

I’m only basing my view on the link above..... I’d say penalty.

Kane was fortunate, he’d ballsed it up and in doing so, put himself in a position to be caught by the challenge. Cash was expecting to be blocking a cross, I think.

Kane not only made a meal of it, he went for the amuse-bouche, cheese course and an aged brandy to conclude, typically.

Harsh on the defender, further evidence that Kane is a dick, but a penalty.
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Re: Kane Penalty

Post by addisclaret » Sun Mar 21, 2021 11:01 pm

Penalty VAR conversation (allegedly)

RJ : "Mike, he grabbed his knee although any contact however minimal was below the ankle"

RJ: "He dummied the ball for a goal kick and had absolutely no chance of crossing it into the area for a scoring opportunity"

MD: "OK thanks Rob, no clear or obvious error in my decision then"

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Re: Kane Penalty

Post by BurnleyFC » Sun Mar 21, 2021 11:06 pm

Reckless from the defender but if there’s any karma then Harry Kane will suffer a ‘bad one’ sometime soon.

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Re: Kane Penalty

Post by dsr » Sun Mar 21, 2021 11:07 pm

The defender slid, the forward touched him and fell over - how can there be any doubt that that is a penalty in the modern game? (Unless Burnley are involved) referees are encouraged to give as many penalties as possible.

I suspect it's to keep the number of goals up to make up for the ones unnecessarily disallowed for an inch offside.

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Re: Kane Penalty

Post by Top Claret » Mon Mar 22, 2021 7:41 am

Good play from Kane to win the penalty its part of the modern game. Cash should not have thrown himself in and gone to ground, as Gary Neville said it was cute play

When you see Kane win penalties like this you see why he scores all those goals, because he is clever and tuned in

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Re: Kane Penalty

Post by wilks_bfc » Mon Mar 22, 2021 7:46 am

Not seen the incident so not going to comment on it, but one of my biggest “gripes” are free kicks being awarded for “obstruction” when a player clearly runs into another without even trying to go around them.

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Re: Kane Penalty

Post by NottsClaret » Mon Mar 22, 2021 7:50 am

He’s a very naughty player is Kane, but that’s a penalty under any interpretation.

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Re: Kane Penalty

Post by joey13 » Mon Mar 22, 2021 7:51 am

addisclaret wrote:
Sun Mar 21, 2021 10:09 pm
Seen it again on his own twitter feed; pathetic.

Ruining the game is this kind of cheating, ensuring there is contact with no intention of playing the ball.
What are your thoughts on Ashley Barnes throwing himself to the ground at every given opportunity, or Popes time wasting?

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Re: Kane Penalty

Post by Duffer_ » Mon Mar 22, 2021 7:51 am

What's all this nonsense about him not playing the ball to win the corner? There's no Villa touch on the ball - it would have been a goal kick.

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Re: Kane Penalty

Post by RammyClaret61 » Mon Mar 22, 2021 7:54 am

And was there any contact on Kane? I couldn’t see any.

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