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Re: Ben Gibson

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Thu Apr 08, 2021 4:40 pm

CFS wrote:
Thu Apr 08, 2021 4:34 pm
Not good to watch.
Genuine question - what is wrong with you?

If the team is winning, it doesn't matter if the results are flashy goal fests or the team is grinding out 1 nil wins, its 3 points at the end of the day.

Plenty of teams try to play the attractive free flowing football all the time and ultimately it doesn't work if they can't mix it up.
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Re: Ben Gibson

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Thu Apr 08, 2021 4:42 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote:
Thu Apr 08, 2021 4:33 pm
It is to some as i've seen a few people on here state how they would hate to have to support and watch Man City because of how boring the football is to watch.
It wins, it doesn't matter.

Yes they have a tendency to over pass it, Arsenal used to be the same under Wenger, and yes I've shouted at both teams to just effing shoot but no they have to take that extra pass :roll:

It can be a tad boring to watch at times, but such is life.

They can also win ugly though.

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Re: Ben Gibson

Post by CFS » Thu Apr 08, 2021 4:43 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Thu Apr 08, 2021 4:40 pm
Genuine question - what is wrong with you?

If the team is winning, it doesn't matter if the results are flashy goal fests or the team is grinding out 1 nil wins, its 3 points at the end of the day.

Plenty of teams try to play the attractive free flowing football all the time and ultimately it doesn't work if they can't mix it up.
Why do you suggest something is wrong with me just because I think we played dire football?? It's my opinion don't like it do win.

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Re: Ben Gibson

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Thu Apr 08, 2021 4:45 pm

CFS wrote:
Thu Apr 08, 2021 4:43 pm
Why do you suggest something is wrong with me just because I think we played dire football?? It's my opinion don't like it do win.
We didn't play dire football, that's the point.

If it's that dire why did you bother watching it?

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Re: Ben Gibson

Post by CFS » Thu Apr 08, 2021 4:46 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Thu Apr 08, 2021 4:45 pm
We didn't play dire football, that's the point.

If it's that dire why did you bother watching it?
In your opinion it wasn't dire.

Because I paid for my ST I forced myself to watch it.

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Re: Ben Gibson

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Thu Apr 08, 2021 4:49 pm

CFS wrote:
Thu Apr 08, 2021 4:46 pm
In your opinion it wasn't dire.

Because I paid for my ST I forced myself to watch it.
That's just another weird take.

You watched it because you enjoyed the winning quite simply.

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Re: Ben Gibson

Post by CFS » Thu Apr 08, 2021 4:51 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Thu Apr 08, 2021 4:49 pm
That's just another weird take.

You watched it because you enjoyed the winning quite simply.
I celebrated one goal all season.....

The ball hitting keane's knee and bouncing in the net. Injury time v Boro the only time i celebrated dire football.

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Re: Ben Gibson

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Thu Apr 08, 2021 4:55 pm

CFS wrote:
Thu Apr 08, 2021 4:51 pm
I celebrated one goal all season.....

The ball hitting keane's knee and bouncing in the net. Injury time v Boro the only time i celebrated dire football.
What did you do against Rovers?

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Re: Ben Gibson

Post by CFS » Thu Apr 08, 2021 4:56 pm

Bordeauxclaret wrote:
Thu Apr 08, 2021 4:55 pm
What did you do against Rovers?
Sit and twiddle my thumbs.

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Re: Ben Gibson

Post by JarrowClaret » Thu Apr 08, 2021 5:09 pm

Mad how opinions differ I actually quite enjoyed the Football during the promotion season and some of the stuff played in the following seasons in the prem (not all though). I get how it isn’t for everyone but it was attacking mixed Football I can appreciate all kinds though tika taka or direct as good Football isn’t played just one way in my opinion at least. If we are talking about this season I would agree it has been a hard watch not sure if it is what is going on or our Football has got worse but horses for courses and let’s hope for
Improvement next season.

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Re: Ben Gibson

Post by CFS » Thu Apr 08, 2021 5:18 pm

JarrowClaret wrote:
Thu Apr 08, 2021 5:09 pm
Mad how opinions differ I actually quite enjoyed the Football during the promotion season and some of the stuff played in the following seasons in the prem (not all though). I get how it isn’t for everyone but it was attacking mixed Football I can appreciate all kinds though tika taka or direct as good Football isn’t played just one way in my opinion at least. If we are talking about this season I would agree it has been a hard watch not sure if it is what is going on or our Football has got worse but horses for courses and let’s hope for
Improvement next season.
I fully agree and respect that.

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Re: Ben Gibson

Post by JarrowClaret » Thu Apr 08, 2021 5:32 pm

CFS wrote:
Thu Apr 08, 2021 5:18 pm
I fully agree and respect that.
Respect cfs,

we all have opinions and we can’t always agree doesn’t mean just because I would disagree, yours isn’t a valid one at least for yourself.

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Re: Ben Gibson

Post by Bosna » Fri Apr 09, 2021 12:07 am

We weren't the most expansive that season. I remember Bolton totally outplaying us at their place before Gray nicked it - we were signing "we're burnley fc, we win when we're ****" that day. Other sides have come up before and since playing better football than we did. We were so effective and solid though - that's what made us different and why we've stayed out of that division since. And at the end of the day, winning football is what it's all about.

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Re: Ben Gibson

Post by CFS » Fri Apr 09, 2021 7:32 am

Bosna wrote:
Fri Apr 09, 2021 12:07 am
And at the end of the day, winning football is what it's all about.
For manager yes not for fans it's not.

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Re: Ben Gibson

Post by Zlatan » Fri Apr 09, 2021 8:19 am

CFS wrote:
Fri Apr 09, 2021 7:32 am
For manager yes not for fans it's not.
Some words of advice then. Record the champions league games, check the results on t’interweb for the winning team and support them when you watch the recording.

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Re: Ben Gibson

Post by dsr » Fri Apr 09, 2021 9:34 am

CFS wrote:
Fri Apr 09, 2021 7:32 am
For manager yes not for fans it's not.
For most fans, winning is what it's about.

Look at Burnley's recent history. We have won promotion from division 4 under Mullen, division 3 Mullen and Ternent, division 2 under Coyle and Dyche twice. None of them played football like Guardiola; they all preferred getting it forward, getting in the box, and scoring goals.

And fans (most fans) like goals. When you see people on their feet cheering, it isn't usually for a string of twenty or thirty passes. It's for a goal, or a brilliant save, or a near miss. The penalty areas are where the action happens, and if we can get the ball there reliably and quickly and score some goals, that more than makes up for the long passages of passing that we miss out on. Most fans -perhaps not you, but most - would rather win the league playing like Dyche than be where Brighton are playing like Brighton. And in Brighton, when they aren't scoring and are on a losing run, there are very few people saying how much they enjoy the football - without goals, it's nothing.

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Re: Ben Gibson

Post by diamondpocket » Fri Apr 09, 2021 9:48 am

Winning is the only thing for me following us.
I don't spend thousands of pounds and driving thousands of miles to see us lose but play well, that's just my competitive nature I guess.
We could play rubbish but if we win then I'm coming off that ground buzzing giving it all to the home/away fans, and I feel so much better for it.
Losing doesn't give me the same feeling. If we play really well and lose then a performance satisfies the effort somewhat but not like a win.

If you want entertainment there is so much out there: other teams, other sports, other leisure activities. If you go on the Turf and suffer just because you paid for it then you're the one with the problem, CFS, not Dyche.
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Re: Ben Gibson

Post by CFS » Fri Apr 09, 2021 9:48 am

Zlatan wrote:
Fri Apr 09, 2021 8:19 am
Some words of advice then. Record the champions league games, check the results on t’interweb for the winning team and support them when you watch the recording.
No I can support Burnley not the dross on show simples.

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Re: Ben Gibson

Post by Ric_C » Fri Apr 09, 2021 9:49 am

CFS clearly on the wind up here :D
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Re: Ben Gibson

Post by CFS » Fri Apr 09, 2021 9:52 am

diamondpocket wrote:
Fri Apr 09, 2021 9:48 am
Winning is the only thing for me following us.
I don't spend thousands of pounds and driving thousands of miles to see us lose but play well, that's just my competitive nature I guess.
We could play rubbish but if we win then I'm coming off that ground buzzing giving it all to the home/away fans, and I feel so much better for it.
Losing doesn't give me the same feeling. If we play really well and lose then a performance satisfies the effort somewhat but not like a win.

If you want entertainment there is so much out there: other teams, other sports, other leisure activities. If you go on the Turf and suffer just because you paid for it then you're the one with the problem, CFS, not Dyche.
Of course there is that's why I opted to not renew then the pandemic began and saved me and many more fans. I don't rely on watching 11 men defending for 85 mins and attempting to attack here and there get a life if that's what you call entertainment.

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Re: Ben Gibson

Post by CFS » Fri Apr 09, 2021 9:53 am

dsr wrote:
Fri Apr 09, 2021 9:34 am
For most fans, winning is what it's about.

Look at Burnley's recent history. We have won promotion from division 4 under Mullen, division 3 Mullen and Ternent, division 2 under Coyle and Dyche twice. None of them played football like Guardiola; they all preferred getting it forward, getting in the box, and scoring goals.

And fans (most fans) like goals. When you see people on their feet cheering, it isn't usually for a string of twenty or thirty passes. It's for a goal, or a brilliant save, or a near miss. The penalty areas are where the action happens, and if we can get the ball there reliably and quickly and score some goals, that more than makes up for the long passages of passing that we miss out on. Most fans -perhaps not you, but most - would rather win the league playing like Dyche than be where Brighton are playing like Brighton. And in Brighton, when they aren't scoring and are on a losing run, there are very few people saying how much they enjoy the football - without goals, it's nothing.
Brighton have won one less game than us sorry they aren't in the top 4 race with us.

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Re: Ben Gibson

Post by Zlatan » Fri Apr 09, 2021 10:09 am

Ric_C wrote:
Fri Apr 09, 2021 9:49 am
CFS clearly on the wind up here :D
Oh you think....???


:D

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Re: Ben Gibson

Post by dsr » Fri Apr 09, 2021 10:11 am

CFS wrote:
Fri Apr 09, 2021 9:53 am
Brighton have won one less game than us sorry they aren't in the top 4 race with us.
Good spot. However, as I suspect everyone else would have realised, the point of the post was that top of the league like Dyche is better than mid-to-lower like Brighton. I wasn't making a judgement of whether mid-to-lower like Dyche is better than mid-to-lower like Brighton, because - obviously - that wouldn't be a comparison of how much people like winning without playing pretty passes.

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Re: Ben Gibson

Post by Colburn_Claret » Fri Apr 09, 2021 10:20 am

ClaretTony wrote:
Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:36 pm
It’s a Burnley website so no surprise things go back to Burnley FC. It doesn’t take anything away other than you trying to belittle our achievement in some way.
I thought it was common knowledge that DA was a Leeds fan.

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Re: Ben Gibson

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Fri Apr 09, 2021 12:04 pm

Colburn_Claret wrote:
Fri Apr 09, 2021 10:20 am
I thought it was common knowledge that DA was a Leeds fan.
More like they're a fan of saying whatever gets them the most bites

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Re: Ben Gibson

Post by elwaclaret » Fri Apr 09, 2021 1:39 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Fri Apr 09, 2021 12:04 pm
More like they're a fan of saying whatever gets them the most bites
I can cope with DA he can catch you unawares but generally he gives you pause for thought and can be quite useful. Other so called fishers are far more irritating to me, a couple on this thread who seem to think it amusing to cause genuine offence. Fortunately, lacking the intellect they are usually consistently easy to identify and thus ignored.
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