Out for the rest of the season.

The season finishes in 6 weeks so I would have thought that was pretty much a given.

14 points ahead of 3rd place Swansea with 10 games left isn't it?

Going to need a spectacular collapse for them not to get auto promotion

The £8million transfer windfall Burnley could receive this weekend

Clarets have an agreement in place to turn Ben Gibson's Norwich City loan permanent should the Canaries win promotion to the Premier League

Burnley's transfer coffers will be boosted this weekend if Norwich City secure promotion to the Premier League.

The Canaries were 7-0 winners over Huddersfield Town in midweek to move within touching distance of a return to the top flight.

Daniel Farke's side need just four more points to be certain of bouncing back at the first attempt but they could be promoted on Saturday if they win and Brentford lose at Preston North End.

It's a case of when not if Norwich go up and promotion will trigger an £8million deal for Burnley loanee Ben Gibson.

The centre back is on a season-long loan from the Clarets with an agreement in place between the clubs for that to turn into a permanent move should Farke's side return to the top-flight.

The deal will go through despite Gibson suffering a season-ending injury last month when he was stretchered off with ankle ligament damage against Blackburn Rovers.

The 28-year-old is set to be back for pre-season and that looks likely to be in East Anglia.

The centre back has fallen out of favour with Clarets boss Sean Dyche and his coaching team and has no future at Turf Moor having become so frustrated at his lack of game-time and Burnley's decision not to sell him to Watford a year ago, that he returned to train with Boro for the final months of last season.

He moved to Norwich on loan in the summer and has been a regular for the Canaries this term making 29 appearances in total.

Gibson arrived at Turf Moor in 2018 as a joint club record £15million signing but managed just six outings in two seasons

Leisure, what fee did we get for his loan move. If we get the £8m what would be the total sum received.

Dont know the answer but has any manager managed to get back into the Premier League with such ease after relegation as Daniel Farke has done this season?

It will be interesting to see if he can make that next level by keeping them up at the second attempt as he looks like one hell of a manager but still has that question to answer

beddie wrote: ↑

Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:35 pm

Leisure, what fee did we get for his loan move. If we get the £8m what would be the total sum received.

Sorry but no idea. CT may know.

Leisure wrote: ↑

Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:24 pm

Burnley's transfer coffers will be boosted this weekend if Norwich City secure promotion to the Premier League.

I rather doubt it given the transfer window is closed

Devils_Advocate wrote: ↑

Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:51 pm

Dont know the answer but has any manager managed to get back into the Premier League with such ease after relegation as Daniel Farke has done this season?

Sean Dyche is the obvious answer, but I suspect you knew that anyway

Zlatan wrote: ↑

Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:56 pm

Sean Dyche is the obvious answer, but I suspect you knew that anyway

We didn't get back up with the ease Norwich are doing though. We had to scramble across the line with some vital goals and results in the closing games.

Teams I can remember as dominating the Championship were Fulham (Saha) and Portsmouth (Merson) but dont think they had come down the season before.

Its not always a competition with how well Burnley and Dyche did you know

Did Norwich only lose Godfrey from their relegated squad?
They have done remarkably well, plenty of young players in there who will have improved from last season with extra experience.

Devils_Advocate said "We didn't get back up with the ease Norwich are doing though. We had to scramble across the line with some vital goals and results in the closing games."

We Lost 5 games all season, the last 23 games of the season went undefeated, 93 points......yes we struggled lol, now go drop your fishing line elsewhere

ClaretMov wrote: ↑

Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:13 pm

Devils_Advocate said "We didn't get back up with the ease Norwich are doing though. We had to scramble across the line with some vital goals and results in the closing games."

We Lost 5 games all season, the last 23 games of the season went undefeated, 93 points......yes we struggled lol, now go drop your fishing line elsewhere

ClaretMov wrote: ↑

Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:13 pm

Devils_Advocate said "We didn't get back up with the ease Norwich are doing though. We had to scramble across the line with some vital goals and results in the closing games."

We Lost 5 games all season, the last 23 games of the season went undefeated, 93 points......yes we struggled lol, now go drop your fishing line elsewhere

To be fair, I think it’s abundantly clear he is talking about the ease of which Norwich have been promoted. Our season went to the last game of the season.

Norwich I believe could be promoted with 6 games left. It also looks like they will comfortably get 100 points which is a remarkable effort

ClaretMov wrote: ↑

Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:13 pm

Devils_Advocate said "We didn't get back up with the ease Norwich are doing though. We had to scramble across the line with some vital goals and results in the closing games."

We Lost 5 games all season, the last 23 games of the season went undefeated, 93 points......yes we struggled lol, now go drop your fishing line elsewhere

And we did that despite losing Shackell and more significantly Trippier & Ings.

Norwich are having a superb season but I won’t use it to have a dig at Burnley or Dyche as Devils_Advocate has done. Our 2015/16 season was remarkable.

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑

Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:20 pm

To be fair, I think it’s abundantly clear he is talking about the ease of which Norwich have been promoted. Our season went to the last game of the season.

Norwich I believe could be promoted with 6 games left. It also looks like they will comfortably get 100 points which is a remarkable effort

"Comfortably" is a stretch - they are on schedule for exactly 100 points at current points per game.

Not to be nit-picky, but we had promotion assured after 45 games. It was only the Championship decider that was relevant on the last day. And part of the reason it was even close for promotion is that there were 3 good teams then; the third place club, Brighton, got 89 points. Even now, Brentford can only get so many with 6 wins and a draw in their last 7.

dsr wrote: ↑

Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:27 pm

"Comfortably" is a stretch - they are on schedule for exactly 100 points at current points per game.

Not to be nit-picky, but we had promotion assured after 45 games. It was only the Championship decider that was relevant on the last day. And part of the reason it was even close for promotion is that there were 3 good teams then; the third place club, Brighton, got 89 points. Even now, Brentford can only get so many with 6 wins and a draw in their last 7.

All very true, just highlighting that Norwich have been re-promoted arguably the easiest in memory. They have absolutely walked the league.

Our season was remarkable but Norwich have absolutely walked it this season.

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑

Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:30 pm

All very true, just highlighting that Norwich have been re-promoted arguably the easiest in memory. They have absolutely walked the league.

Our season was remarkable but Norwich have absolutely walked it this season.

They have walked it but the next best aren’t as good as in some previous seasons. I think in 2016 both Brighton & Middlesbrough got to 89 points. Watford will finish around that total but then there is going to be a big drop.

I wasnt comparing Norwich with our season. I was asking whether a relegated side had got promoted with such ease.

Anyone who thinks our promotion was an easy one is forgetting some of the massive moments in the run in that got us above Brighton and Boro but again this is nothing to do with what I posted

I post something that is nothing to do with Burnley and then get accused of fishing when others bring Burnley into the conversation

ClaretTony wrote: ↑

Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:23 pm

And we did that despite losing Shackell and more significantly Trippier & Ings.

Norwich are having a superb season but I won’t use it to have a dig at Burnley or Dyche as Devils_Advocate has done. Our 2015/16 season was remarkable.

Why is it a dig? Why does Norwich having a brilliant season take anything away from what we did 5 years ago? I think some of you want to open you horizons and chill out a little cos there's a whole world out there that doesnt lead back to Burnley FC and Sean Dyche

Devils_Advocate wrote: ↑

Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:08 pm

I wasnt comparing Norwich with our season. I was asking whether a relegated side had got promoted with such ease.

Anyone who thinks our promotion was an easy one is forgetting some of the massive moments in the run in that got us above Brighton and Boro but again this is nothing to do with what I posted

I post something that is nothing to do with Burnley and then get accused of fishing when others bring Burnley into the conversation

It is after all a Burnley fans messageboard, but I’ll let that slip.

Personally our re-promotion season seemed quite easy for us, hence my response. As I don’t regularly watch Norwich (or any other team like Leeds perhaps) I cannot say whether their season felt as easy as ours or not.

You asked the question, and I answered it with, surprisingly for a Burnley fans messageboard, Sean Dyche which seems a reasonable response does it not?

Zlatan wrote: ↑

Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:13 pm

It is after all a Burnley fans messageboard, but I’ll let that slip.

Personally our re-promotion season seemed quite easy for us, hence my response. As I don’t regularly watch Norwich (or any other team like Leeds perhaps) I cannot say whether their season felt as easy as ours or not.

You asked the question, and I answered it with, surprisingly for a Burnley fans messageboard, Sean Dyche which seems a reasonable response does it not?

Sean Dyche is a reasonable response to have but you said it was the obvious answer and implied Id asked my question knowing that.

We was ran very close by Brighton and Boro and but for some key moments we could have easily just missed out and ended up third.

I was asking has any relegated side strolled to promotion so comfortably as Norwich look to be doing.

Now this should be quite a simple thing to discuss (even on a Burnley messageboard) but nope on here everyone is so precious about how great Dyche is and how nothing any other manager does can be discussed without it being compared (less favorably) to Dyche

Weren't we assured of top 3 for a few weeks but only won it on the final day? (If my memory serves me well)
Seems a lot harder than what Norwich have done this season.
It's difficult on here to acknowledge the achievements of other clubs.

Devils_Advocate wrote: ↑

Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:12 pm

Why is it a dig? Why does Norwich having a brilliant season take anything away from what we did 5 years ago? I think some of you want to open you horizons and chill out a little cos there's a whole world out there that doesnt lead back to Burnley FC and Sean Dyche

It’s a Burnley website so no surprise things go back to Burnley FC. It doesn’t take anything away other than you trying to belittle our achievement in some way.

boatshed bill wrote: ↑

Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:33 pm

Weren't we assured of top 3 for a few weeks but only won it on the final day? (If my memory serves me well)
Seems a lot harder than what Norwich have done this season.
It's difficult on here to acknowledge the achievements of other clubs.

Not at all, Norwich have achieved a lot this season, and by all accounts they deserve it and I will congratulate them when they do get promoted.

ClaretTony wrote: ↑

Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:54 pm

I rather doubt it given the transfer window is closed

It is but hopefully the cheque will still be in the post after the weekend!

I wouldn't say it was easy at all for us, even with the 23 undefeated we needed last minute goals against Boro and Brighton to get over the line. Was definitely squeaky bum time the last few weeks of the season.

Leisure wrote: ↑

Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:42 pm

It is but hopefully the cheque will still be in the post after the weekend!

Maybe once the window is open but I bet Norwich are looking closely at the injury before committing.

jrgbfc wrote: ↑

Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:45 pm

I wouldn't say it was easy at all for us, even with the 23 undefeated we needed last minute goals against Boro and Brighton to get over the line. Was definitely squeaky bum time the last few weeks of the season.

Which makes it quite an achievement to come 1st out of the 3

ClaretTony wrote: ↑

Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:45 pm

Maybe once the window is open but I bet Norwich are looking closely at the injury before committing.

They can look all they want they’ll still have to cough up.

Devils_Advocate wrote: ↑

Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:22 pm

We was ran very close by Brighton and Boro and but for some key moments we could have easily just missed out and ended up third.

I

Could easily have finished in the bottom half of the table but for some more 'key moments'. Just wondering if any other successful clubs have ever enjoyed 'key moments' that have determined their season. I think they might have done but I stand to be corrected.

ClaretTony wrote: ↑

Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:36 pm

It’s a Burnley website so no surprise things go back to Burnley FC. It doesn’t take anything away other than you trying to belittle our achievement in some way.

How does Norwich doing well belittle our achievement and maybe you should refrain from accusing me of things like this when you delete post of others when they do it to you

On the subject of Norwich’s imminent promotion, they won it quite easily last time from what I remember.

I’m sure they won it by some distance in the early 2000’s as well with players like Huckerby.

Devils_Advocate wrote: ↑

Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:50 pm

How does Norwich doing well belittle our achievement and maybe you should refrain from accusing me of things like this when you delete post of others when they do it to you

If it helps, I’ll apologise for making the assumption that you wanted a reaction from fans on here, I mean you posted it the day after they won 7-0 and yet not after they drew the previous game 1-1 against the superior. You also have a user name that is intentionally meant to be impartial, so you can try to appear so... but you do have a record for stoking the fires of debate in a controversial way, but for this one, yes I’ll give you the benefit of doubt and apologise.

I’m sorry

Bordeauxclaret wrote: ↑

Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:50 pm

They can look all they want they’ll still have to cough up.

I’m not expecting this but if the injury was worse and he was unable to get fit then he wouldn’t pass a medical and the deal wouldn’t go through. Then they wouldn’t have to cough up.

Silkyskills1 wrote: ↑

Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:50 pm

Could easily have finished in the bottom half of the table but for some more 'key moments'. Just wondering if any other successful clubs have ever enjoyed 'key moments' that have determined their season. I think they might have done but I stand to be corrected.

Do you think Burnley strolled to promotion in 15/16 as easily have Norwich have done this year?

If you do then thats your answer to my question and I disagree.

If you dont then can you remember a team who has got promoted with such ease after relegation?

Thats all I was simply asking

Devils_Advocate wrote: ↑

Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:50 pm

How does Norwich doing well belittle our achievement and maybe you should refrain from accusing me of things like this when you delete post of others when they do it to you

You’d have far less need to defend yourself if only you’d give it a bit of a rest with your usual style of posting - blatantly aiming to get a rise.

You’ve plenty to offer without all that malarkey.

ClaretTony wrote: ↑

Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:59 pm

I’m not expecting this but if the injury was worse and he was unable to get fit then he wouldn’t pass a medical and the deal wouldn’t go through. Then they wouldn’t have to cough up.

I suspect he’s already had it.

Bordeauxclaret wrote: ↑

Wed Apr 07, 2021 8:02 pm

I suspect he’s already had it.

I very much doubt it

boatshed bill wrote: ↑

Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:07 pm

Did Norwich only lose Godfrey from their relegated squad?
They have done remarkably well, plenty of young players in there who will have improved from last season with extra experience.

Lewis the left back. Byram has been out all season - the other left back. Plus a few players that weren't likely to make it to Premier league standard that were in the squad.

Zlatan wrote: ↑

Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:56 pm

If it helps, I’ll apologise for making the assumption that you wanted a reaction from fans on here, I mean you posted it the day after they won 7-0 and yet not after they drew the previous game 1-1 against the superior. You also have a user name that is intentionally meant to be impartial, so you can try to appear so... but you do have a record for stoking the fires of debate in a controversial way, but for this one, yes I’ll give you the benefit of doubt and apologise.

I’m sorry

There's no need to aplogise and I accept that I get treated in a certain way because of how I post. It works both ways though as the reason I tend to not post seriously as too often is because of how people jump on anyone who they think is being negative towards Burnley

I even referenced he still had to prove himself to keep Norwich up to try and show I wasnt suggesting he is better than Dyche cos I know how it can be on here but still a simple and I thought interesting question has descended into a ridiculous thread

I thought the question had some relevance on this forum cos we've been there and done it so can relate.

Anyhow I appreciate your last post and I'll leave it at that for everyone as the level of reaction to a simple question has been embarrassing

ClaretTony wrote: ↑

Wed Apr 07, 2021 8:03 pm

I very much doubt it

I can’t imagine Burnley would negotiate a deal where the player can be returned to us if he’s injured playing for them.

So we’d be left with no money and an injured player who we don’t want with a year less on his contract.

Bordeauxclaret wrote: ↑

Wed Apr 07, 2021 8:08 pm

I can’t imagine Burnley would negotiate a deal where the player can be returned to us if he’s injured playing for them.

So we’d be left with no money and an injured player who we don’t want with a year less on his contract.

Must admit I thought I had read somewhere that regardless of the fitness of the player Norwich were obliged to sign the player if they were promoted.

Otherwise the deal just didn’t make sense for Burnley.

Bordeauxclaret wrote: ↑

Wed Apr 07, 2021 8:08 pm

I can’t imagine Burnley would negotiate a deal where the player can be returned to us if he’s injured playing for them.

So we’d be left with no money and an injured player who we don’t want with a year less on his contract.

A lot of deals are done like this now with a one year loan followed by a permanent move. Danny Ings from Liverpool to Southampton was like that.

I’m sure there will be clauses in the loan deal should a permanent deal not go through.

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑

Wed Apr 07, 2021 8:13 pm

Must admit I thought I had read somewhere that regardless of the fitness of the player Norwich were obliged to sign the player if they were promoted.

Otherwise the deal just didn’t make sense for Burnley.

Exactly. We’d have held on for a permanent deal with someone else otherwise I’m sure.
There was still a month left in the transfer window.

ClaretTony wrote: ↑

Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:54 pm

I rather doubt it given the transfer window is closed

EFL rules Section 6 Players

54.4.3 Temporary Loan Transfers may include an option to acquire the Player’s registration by way of permanent transfer. Any such option can be exercised at any time (including during a Closed Period).

https://www.efl.com/-more/governance/ef ... --players/

Therefore the transfer can be concluded outside of the transfer window

Chester Perry wrote: ↑

Wed Apr 07, 2021 8:34 pm

EFL rules Section 6 Players

54.4.3 Temporary Loan Transfers may include an option to acquire the Player’s registration by way of permanent transfer. Any such option can be exercised at any time (including during a Closed Period).

https://www.efl.com/-more/governance/ef ... --players/

Therefore the transfer can be concluded outside of the transfer window

Subject to them being in the PL

Devils_Advocate wrote: ↑

Wed Apr 07, 2021 8:00 pm

Do you think Burnley strolled to promotion in 15/16 as easily have Norwich have done this year?

If you do then thats your answer to my question and I disagree.

If you dont then can you remember a team who has got promoted with such ease after relegation?

Thats all I was simply asking

The problem is that you never "simply ask" anything.
You just love to wind people up, and then I presume, enjoy it when you get the response you had been hoping for, and then trying to make out that you are hard done by when challenged.

Sometimes you need to act your age instead of your shoe size. Give it a rest mate.

£8m would be very welcome by the club I'm sure but it's concerning that we're looking at a potential loss of £7m unless ive missed something.