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Not at all, he’s not that guy! What would he gain, he always brings the big stool.
Looked like he was carrying an injury, doubt he wanted to call it off again and lose his £250k retirement fighthuw.Y.WattfromWare wrote: ↑Sat Mar 27, 2021 11:45 pmI’m with the OP. Expected Povetkin to win but he looked slow and clumsy from the first bell.
It’s difficult to come back from a KO in a re-match but deserved win for Whyte.
I may have misread it, but it looked disrespectful. It’s his trainer and team’s responsibility to ensure that their fighter is medically OK and has what is required, not Whyte’s.Burnley1989 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 27, 2021 11:35 pmNot at all, he’s not that guy! What would he gain, he always brings the big stool.
Bullied an old veteran and top fighter, I hope he destroys wilder in a big stadium fight later in the year and fights the winner of AJ/Fury after their two fights this time next year, I think he loses to both but I’d love to see him get his chance.
Those top two are much better than the rest at the minute but HW boxing anything can happen at that top 10 level
Doubt that the Fury-Joshua fight wouldn't be a unified bout then would it, and that's what they're trying to sell isn't it.Burnley1989 wrote: ↑Tue May 18, 2021 6:41 amYou can’t force a man to fight, I’d imagine they will just give up the belt and crack on with the planned fight
Giving up the belt is irrelevant. It’s a contract fight regardless of belts. It’s all about the money.Burnley1989 wrote: ↑Tue May 18, 2021 6:41 amYou can’t force a man to fight, I’d imagine they will just give up the belt and crack on with the planned fight
Richardsbfc wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 7:10 amGiving up the belt is irrelevant. It’s a contract fight regardless of belts. It’s all about the money.
Step aside money and Wilder to face the winner for all belts is his best option on the face of it.
I am pretty sure you are wrong there. My understanding is he can give up the belt that has the rematch contract with it and fight who he wants. His dad John Fury is advising him to give up the belts and face AJ but he's not listening. There's a good video clip on YouTube with him talking about it for around 10 minutes.Richardsbfc wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 7:10 amGiving up the belt is irrelevant. It’s a contract fight regardless of belts. It’s all about the money.
Step aside money and Wilder to face the winner for all belts is his best option on the face of it.
AJ would be mad to even consider that (he won’t consider it). Why would he put all his belts on the line for nothing in return? Makes no sense whatsoever. John Fury talks absolute rubbish on a weekly basis.Untinted Glasses wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 10:51 amI am pretty sure you are wrong there. My understanding is he can give up the belt that has the rematch contract with it and fight who he wants. His dad John Fury is advising him to give up the belts and face AJ but he's not listening. There's a good video clip on YouTube with him talking about it for around 10 minutes.
If £100 million is 'nothing' then yea I would agreeMilltown1882 wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 11:08 amAJ would be mad to even consider that (he won’t consider it). Why would he put all his belts on the line for nothing in return? Makes no sense whatsoever. John Fury talks absolute rubbish on a weekly basis.
LOL thats very naive, it's never about the belts with these boxers, not since pre 2000s has belts been important. The whole plot is to make the fight happen at a time that maximises cash. ITS ALL ABOUT THE MONEY. Don't be fooled otherwise
And it should be, I love hearing boxers earning huge money for fights.Untinted Glasses wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 12:54 pmLOL thats very naive, it's never about the belts with these boxers, not since pre 2000s has belts been important. The whole plot is to make the fight happen at a time that maximises cash. ITS ALL ABOUT THE MONEY. Don't be fooled otherwise
Unified belts are normally impossible, owing to folk liking lots of champions, when they are fight promoters.Untinted Glasses wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 12:54 pmLOL thats very naive, it's never about the belts with these boxers, not since pre 2000s has belts been important. The whole plot is to make the fight happen at a time that maximises cash. ITS ALL ABOUT THE MONEY. Don't be fooled otherwise
That is because he is Scottish and not from Lundun.Milltown1882 wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 5:03 pmExactly. Still find it barmy that Josh Taylor got hardly any UK coverage last week.
Totally agree tbh, the few that make it through deserve everything they can get. Too many different versions of belts nowadays. Yea Eddie Hearn has revitalised it like he did with poker before boxing. Shame he wasn't around in the 80s and 90s.Burnley1989 wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 1:38 pmAnd it should be, I love hearing boxers earning huge money for fights.
They train like dogs for 20 years, and some leave with terrible health and no money. It should land in their pocket, not the managers & promoters, to be fair Eddie Hearn has been fantastic for British boxers on that front
The thing with the belts, again I think it’s a good thing, otherwise you end up with top fighters never getting their shot because one fighter is signed into a 3 fight contract and then gets an injury so 3 years go by whilst they’re in their prime.Untinted Glasses wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 8:49 pmTotally agree tbh, the few that make it through deserve everything they can get. Too many different versions of belts nowadays. Yea Eddie Hearn has revitalised it like he did with poker before boxing. Shame he wasn't around in the 80s and 90s.
The way I understand it is the money is paid by the Saudis, Hearn agrees purses with the boxers and then it’s up to him to sell the fight / promote and get as much money as he can ( maybe a % of that is agreed to the boxers, but there main purse is agreed up front ? )SammyBoy wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 9:02 pmIf Fury vs AJ is for all the belts it’ll add more hype to the build up and result in more money. I know belts don’t mean much to boxers these days but billing the fight as a once in a generation “undisputed” event will generate more PPV buys than if it was for all the belts except one. In the event Fury relinquishes his belt the winner would inevitably face the “but what about the other guy” conversation.
It’s contracted for immediate rematch and the arbiter ordered it regardless of belts on the line. As we’ve seen with Fury in the past, I am sure if he could then he would give up the belts.Untinted Glasses wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 10:51 amI am pretty sure you are wrong there. My understanding is he can give up the belt that has the rematch contract with it and fight who he wants. His dad John Fury is advising him to give up the belts and face AJ but he's not listening. There's a good video clip on YouTube with him talking about it for around 10 minutes.
I think the belts will only mean anything for the fighters to be honest. Gone are the days that fans get excited about belts on the line etc. There is far too many belts for Joe Bloggs to become World Champion and nobody know about it - example Trevor Bryan is a WBA HeavyWeight Champion which you probably didn’t know.SammyBoy wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 9:02 pmIf Fury vs AJ is for all the belts it’ll add more hype to the build up and result in more money. I know belts don’t mean much to boxers these days but billing the fight as a once in a generation “undisputed” event will generate more PPV buys than if it was for all the belts except one. In the event Fury relinquishes his belt the winner would inevitably face the “but what about the other guy” conversation.
I am not sure where you are getting your info from but I still think your wrong. They just either fight or vacate, **** or get off the pot. Usyk would have gave up his belts and he would have had mandatory challenges, as would Maywesther, Josh Warrington, canelo, Saunders,david haye, just tons of them, obviously I can't remember them all. There's even talk Joshua could vacate as he doesn't like the idea of fighting Usyk next (basically wants to carry on hand picking muppets)Richardsbfc wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 7:09 amIt’s contracted for immediate rematch and the arbiter ordered it regardless of belts on the line. As we’ve seen with Fury in the past, I am sure if he could then he would give up the belts.
By all means, he can give up the belts and fight/not fight but not without consequence. If he gave up the belts but still fought, he would be sued. If he gave up the belts and didn’t fight then he would be sued even more. Basically, he has to fight otherwise gets sued.
Your post was merged, not deleted, which you can see for yourself if you bothered to look. No, instead you go on thread after thread after thread with this ridiculous and incorrect post.
In Fury and Wilder case, the fight was already a signed/contracted fight which is the issue here. Covid hit and postponed the deal/fight. Arbitration ruled that previous contract needs to be fulfilled. If its not fulfilled in full then Team Wilder would sue Team Fury, hence the belts being pretty irrelevant on this occasion.Untinted Glasses wrote: ↑Mon Jun 14, 2021 2:01 pmOnI am not sure where you are getting your info from but I still think your wrong. They just either fight or vacate, **** or get off the pot. Usyk would have gave up his belts and he would have had mandatory challenges, as would Maywesther, Josh Warrington, canelo, Saunders,david haye, just tons of them, obviously I can't remember them all. There's even talk Joshua could vacate as he doesn't like the idea of fighting Usyk next (basically wants to carry on hand picking muppets)