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England vs Poland

Post by WazzaClaret » Wed Mar 31, 2021 7:44 pm

Strong looking line up, ill go 3-0.

Is that barnes playing for poland with a wig on? Not sure on the players number but im sure youll notice :lol:

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Re: England vs Poland

Post by EricaJacko » Wed Mar 31, 2021 7:45 pm

Is Greenwood injured?

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Re: England vs Poland

Post by Claret » Wed Mar 31, 2021 7:55 pm

Should have been a penalty there. Foden was pushed over

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Re: England vs Poland

Post by WazzaClaret » Wed Mar 31, 2021 7:58 pm

Claret wrote:
Wed Mar 31, 2021 7:55 pm
Should have been a penalty there. Fidel was pushed over
Obv the foden one haha yeah in todays game thats a pen. Is there no VAR? Admittedly i didnt notice in the first couple of games.

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Re: England vs Poland

Post by Claret » Wed Mar 31, 2021 8:01 pm

There’s no Var.
It’s great isn’t it.
Even tho Foden should have been awarded a pe and the ref clearly bottled it, the decision was made straight away, we know where we all stand and we get on with the game.

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Re: England vs Poland

Post by duncandisorderly » Wed Mar 31, 2021 8:02 pm

Who is greenwood?

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Re: England vs Poland

Post by tarkys_ears » Wed Mar 31, 2021 8:04 pm

Disgraceful decision

I'd rather lose than cheat in this manner

Sterling is a shameless two hat
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Re: England vs Poland

Post by Zlatan » Wed Mar 31, 2021 8:04 pm

Claret wrote:
Wed Mar 31, 2021 8:01 pm
There’s no Var.
It’s great isn’t it.
Even tho Foden should have been awarded a pe and the ref clearly bottled it, the decision was made straight away, we know where we all stand and we get on with the game.
I agree. Personally I’d be happy to not get some subjective decisions against us if it meant the game progressed.

I’d still like to see VAR for violent conduct and offside (if they applied the tech right of course), and I’d also be happy for retrospective punishment for stuff not picked up during the game.

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Re: England vs Poland

Post by gtclaret » Wed Mar 31, 2021 8:04 pm

Never a penalty

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Re: England vs Poland

Post by Rileybobs » Wed Mar 31, 2021 8:05 pm

As clear a penalty as you’re likely to see

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Re: England vs Poland

Post by EricaJacko » Wed Mar 31, 2021 8:06 pm

Clever play, but don't think we've attacked them enough other than then.

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Re: England vs Poland

Post by Claret » Wed Mar 31, 2021 8:07 pm

Zlatan wrote:
Wed Mar 31, 2021 8:04 pm
I agree. Personally I’d be happy to not get some subjective decisions against us if it meant the game progressed.

I’d still like to see VAR for violent conduct and offside (if they applied the tech right of course), and I’d also be happy for retrospective punishment for stuff not picked up during the game.
Var can be scrapped completely as far as I’m concerned. There are linesmen (and women) for offsides. Violent conduct, diving, etc can be dealt with retrospectively
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Re: England vs Poland

Post by Lowbankclaret » Wed Mar 31, 2021 8:07 pm

He is a simple cheat. Nothing else to be said.
Disgrace to the shirt.

True fans need to start a campaign together him blocked from playing for England ever again.

In this new woke world should never be accepted.

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Re: England vs Poland

Post by Antmass » Wed Mar 31, 2021 8:08 pm

Dive, dive, dive.

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Re: England vs Poland

Post by Claret » Wed Mar 31, 2021 8:08 pm

Lowbankclaret wrote:
Wed Mar 31, 2021 8:07 pm
He is a simple cheat. Nothing else to be said.
Disgrace to the shirt.

True fans need to start a campaign together him blocked from playing for England ever again.

In this new woke world should never be accepted.
It looked like he got fouled to me
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Re: England vs Poland

Post by Rileybobs » Wed Mar 31, 2021 8:08 pm

Lowbankclaret wrote:
Wed Mar 31, 2021 8:07 pm
He is a simple cheat. Nothing else to be said.
Disgrace to the shirt.

True fans need to start a campaign together him blocked from playing for England ever again.

In this new woke world should never be accepted.
:lol:

How was that cheating?

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Re: England vs Poland

Post by EricaJacko » Wed Mar 31, 2021 8:10 pm

Claret wrote:
Wed Mar 31, 2021 8:08 pm
It looked like he got fouled to me
He did get fouled. Just a class above the defender.

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Re: England vs Poland

Post by Devils_Advocate » Wed Mar 31, 2021 8:10 pm

Lowbankclaret wrote:
Wed Mar 31, 2021 8:07 pm
He is a simple cheat. Nothing else to be said.
Disgrace to the shirt.

True fans need to start a campaign together him blocked from playing for England ever again.

In this new woke world should never be accepted.
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Re: England vs Poland

Post by djemba-djemba » Wed Mar 31, 2021 8:13 pm

Another poor kick from Pope!

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Re: England vs Poland

Post by EricaJacko » Wed Mar 31, 2021 8:14 pm

Poor kick but Pope is better at keeping the ball out of the net.

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Re: England vs Poland

Post by bobinho » Wed Mar 31, 2021 8:15 pm

If that gets given against you, you are fuming.

That’s how to measure whether the contact was enough to send him sprawling.

Sadly, he’s a cheat.

Oooohhhh there was contact.


Oooohhhh he’s entitled to go down.


Oooohhhh he earned that.


It’s all cheating.
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Re: England vs Poland

Post by Herts Clarets » Wed Mar 31, 2021 8:15 pm

djemba-djemba wrote:
Wed Mar 31, 2021 8:13 pm
Another poor kick from Pope!
Immediately highlighted by Lee Dixon.....

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Re: England vs Poland

Post by Rileybobs » Wed Mar 31, 2021 8:15 pm

It’d help if the defenders stopped pinning him into tight areas on his left foot.

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Re: England vs Poland

Post by EricaJacko » Wed Mar 31, 2021 8:15 pm

djemba-djemba wrote:
Wed Mar 31, 2021 8:13 pm
Another poor kick from Pope!
You type like you've never seen Pope play before.

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Re: England vs Poland

Post by Zlatan » Wed Mar 31, 2021 8:15 pm

djemba-djemba wrote:
Wed Mar 31, 2021 8:13 pm
Another poor kick from Pope!
It was a hospital pass in the first place. Why criticise Pope for the person who screwed up the pass to him?
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Re: England vs Poland

Post by tiger76 » Wed Mar 31, 2021 8:15 pm

Sterling went to ground rather easily, but it was a daft tackle for the defender to make, I'd say it ranks in the softer category of pens, but when you dive in rashly like that you're always running the risk of the ref giving something which he did.

What was pleasing from an England POV was the pressure to win the ball back to set up that attack that led to the spot kick.

Pope looking dodgy with his kicking again, it's definitely an area he'll have to improve upon to remain 1st choice like it or not.

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Re: England vs Poland

Post by tarkys_ears » Wed Mar 31, 2021 8:16 pm

Mount offers less than Brady

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Re: England vs Poland

Post by Rileybobs » Wed Mar 31, 2021 8:16 pm

bobinho wrote:
Wed Mar 31, 2021 8:15 pm
If that gets given against you, you are fuming.

That’s how to measure whether the contact was enough to send him sprawling.

Sadly, he’s a cheat.

Oooohhhh there was contact.


Oooohhhh he’s entitled to go down.


Oooohhhh he earned that.


It’s all cheating.
He was clattered. It’s a penalty all day long. Can’t believe it’s even being questioned.
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Re: England vs Poland

Post by EricaJacko » Wed Mar 31, 2021 8:17 pm

Zlatan wrote:
Wed Mar 31, 2021 8:15 pm
It was a hospital pass in the first place. Why criticise Pope for the person who screwed up the pass to him?
Not convinced he's seen much of Pope.
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Re: England vs Poland

Post by Buxtonclaret » Wed Mar 31, 2021 8:17 pm

Zlatan wrote:
Wed Mar 31, 2021 8:15 pm
It was a hospital pass in the first place. Why criticise Pope for the person who screwed up the pass to him?
Spot on.

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Re: England vs Poland

Post by bobinho » Wed Mar 31, 2021 8:18 pm

Surprise surprise everyone... Nick Pope isnt that great at kicking... hey! Why don’t we highlight it on here like it’s the latest news when he makes a less than perfect kick? Let’s do it after EVERY kick eh?

That’d be good wouldn’t it?

Wouldnt it?

Ffs, come on boys and girls. :?
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Re: England vs Poland

Post by EricaJacko » Wed Mar 31, 2021 8:18 pm

Don't go on social media. Only 1% of people who post on social media during a game, know what day it is.

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Re: England vs Poland

Post by Lowbankclaret » Wed Mar 31, 2021 8:19 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Wed Mar 31, 2021 8:16 pm
He was clattered. It’s a penalty all day long. Can’t believe it’s even being questioned.
After ten replays, he dived simple as.

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Re: England vs Poland

Post by Top Claret » Wed Mar 31, 2021 8:19 pm

Definitely a penalty he got clattered from behind, anyone who says other needs a trip to spec savers

Good to see the Poles standing proud whilst our clowns took the knee
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Re: England vs Poland

Post by WazzaClaret » Wed Mar 31, 2021 8:19 pm

Does it bother anyone else that kane seems to drop during pretty much every play? Hes a focal point and yes he does it well occassionally but it seems to be during every build up phase.

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Re: England vs Poland

Post by EricaJacko » Wed Mar 31, 2021 8:20 pm

Lowbankclaret wrote:
Wed Mar 31, 2021 8:19 pm
After ten replays, he dived simple as.
Who?

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Re: England vs Poland

Post by Rileybobs » Wed Mar 31, 2021 8:20 pm

Lowbankclaret wrote:
Wed Mar 31, 2021 8:19 pm
After ten replays, he dived simple as.
Good luck with your campaign.

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Re: England vs Poland

Post by EricaJacko » Wed Mar 31, 2021 8:22 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Wed Mar 31, 2021 8:20 pm
Good luck with your campaign.
I assume this isn't about England's penalty as everybody knows that was a penalty.

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Re: England vs Poland

Post by Burnley1989 » Wed Mar 31, 2021 8:29 pm

bobinho wrote:
Wed Mar 31, 2021 8:15 pm
If that gets given against you, you are fuming.

That’s how to measure whether the contact was enough to send him sprawling.

Sadly, he’s a cheat.

Oooohhhh there was contact.


Oooohhhh he’s entitled to go down.


Oooohhhh he earned that.


It’s all cheating.
The commentator said earlier “he was guilty of staying on his feet at the weekend when he could have gone down”
Can’t remember which player he was talking about but what a stupid thing to say
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Re: England vs Poland

Post by expoultryboy » Wed Mar 31, 2021 8:30 pm

I'm with you wazz , i wish he'd stay up top and stop cluttering up the midfield.

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Re: England vs Poland

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Wed Mar 31, 2021 8:32 pm

Also a bit surprised how deep Kane tends to drop.

The semi final against Croatia he ended up playing the anchor role for reason when we needed a goal.

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Re: England vs Poland

Post by bobinho » Wed Mar 31, 2021 8:34 pm

Burnley1989 wrote:
Wed Mar 31, 2021 8:29 pm
The commentator said earlier “he was guilty of staying on his feet at the weekend when he could have gone down”
Can’t remember which player he was talking about but what a stupid thing to say
Agreed. Cheating ,and accepting cheating as something other than what it is has become so normal, it’s accepted.

Apparently, those who do it are demonstrating an extraordinary will to win that only elite sportspeople have. :roll:
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Re: England vs Poland

Post by gtclaret » Wed Mar 31, 2021 8:35 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Wed Mar 31, 2021 8:15 pm
It’d help if the defenders stopped pinning him into tight areas on his left foot.
I agree, they are putting Pope under unnecessary pressure, delaying the back pass allowing the Polish forwards to cut space and time for Pope

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Re: England vs Poland

Post by tiger76 » Wed Mar 31, 2021 8:36 pm

WazzaClaret wrote:
Wed Mar 31, 2021 8:19 pm
Does it bother anyone else that kane seems to drop during pretty much every play? Hes a focal point and yes he does it well occassionally but it seems to be during every build up phase.
Yes it bothers me also, your main striker should be in or around the box, that's where he'll score goals, I've never known any CF to score when sat on the halfway line, it didn't work when England tried it with Rooney, and it won't work with Harry Kane either, get in the box man.

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Re: England vs Poland

Post by welsbyswife » Wed Mar 31, 2021 8:36 pm

EricaJacko wrote:
Wed Mar 31, 2021 8:06 pm
Clever play, but don't think we've attacked them enough other than then.
Probably the thing I hate most about modern football punditry. Cheating being labelled as "clever play". No, it's cheating.

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Re: England vs Poland

Post by WazzaClaret » Wed Mar 31, 2021 8:38 pm

WazzaClaret wrote:
Wed Mar 31, 2021 7:44 pm
Strong looking line up, ill go 3-0.

Is that barnes playing for poland with a wig on? Not sure on the players number but im sure youll notice :lol:
Just me?
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Re: England vs Poland

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Wed Mar 31, 2021 8:38 pm

Does any pundit offer less than Ashley Cole?

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Re: England vs Poland

Post by Rileybobs » Wed Mar 31, 2021 8:40 pm

welsbyswife wrote:
Wed Mar 31, 2021 8:36 pm
Probably the thing I hate most about modern football punditry. Cheating being labelled as "clever play". No, it's cheating.
Since when has drawing a foul been cheating? Sterling has every right to protect the ball. If the opposing player chooses to slide to win the ball then he has to take the man and not the ball otherwise he will be quite rightly penalised.

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Re: England vs Poland

Post by WazzaClaret » Wed Mar 31, 2021 8:40 pm

tiger76 wrote:
Wed Mar 31, 2021 8:36 pm
Yes it bothers me also, your main striker should be in or around the box, that's where he'll score goals, I've never known any CF to score when sat on the halfway line, it didn't work when England tried it with Rooney, and it won't work with Harry Kane either, get in the box man.
He's started doing it more under Morinhos spurs. I didn't notice it befor anyway.

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Re: England vs Poland

Post by Devils_Advocate » Wed Mar 31, 2021 8:40 pm

tiger76 wrote:
Wed Mar 31, 2021 8:36 pm
Yes it bothers me also, your main striker should be in or around the box, that's where he'll score goals, I've never known any CF to score when sat on the halfway line, it didn't work when England tried it with Rooney, and it won't work with Harry Kane either, get in the box man.
Top assists this season in the Premier League suggest Kane is just as dangerous dropping deep to help the team score as he is stood in the box

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