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SD & Pace

Post by huw.Y.WattfromWare » Sat Apr 03, 2021 4:55 pm

Each knows their strengths.
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Re: SD & Pace

Post by NewClaret » Sat Apr 03, 2021 6:02 pm

Sounds very positive to me.

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Re: SD & Pace

Post by Aclaret » Sat Apr 03, 2021 6:08 pm

As someone once said, exciting times.

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Re: SD & Pace

Post by AfloatinClaret » Sat Apr 03, 2021 6:16 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Sat Apr 03, 2021 6:02 pm
Sounds very positive to me.
Me too.
I do think that provided salary and the like are comparable, the big enticement for SD to stay at Turf Moor rather than move on to Newcastle, Palace (perhaps Fulham?) or the like, is that he still appears to be 'The Boss' with regard to the football side of things at Burnley.

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Re: SD & Pace

Post by Marney&Mee » Sat Apr 03, 2021 7:23 pm

SD is good, but he’ll never surpass Hale...
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Re: SD & Pace

Post by jojomk1 » Sat Apr 03, 2021 7:40 pm

SD may remain, quite rightly, in full charge of the footballing side

But Mr Pace will have full control of finances (however big or small)

Will be interesting to hear if at least this summer Dyche gets to know if he has a budget to work to

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Re: SD & Pace

Post by Boss Hogg » Sat Apr 03, 2021 7:50 pm

I haven’t seen all his interviews but did Pace ever pass comment on why all the pledges of transfer window support and being active in it didn’t happen.

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Re: SD & Pace

Post by Chester Perry » Sat Apr 03, 2021 7:59 pm

Boss Hogg wrote:
Sat Apr 03, 2021 7:50 pm
I haven’t seen all his interviews but did Pace ever pass comment on why all the pledges of transfer window support and being active in it didn’t happen.
He said Dyche would be happy - and he has certainly seemed happy enough

Will that be the same after the summer - not so sure

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Re: SD & Pace

Post by elwaclaret » Sat Apr 03, 2021 8:01 pm

I think we are going to have to get used to being seen as a very different Burnley Football Club. We know SD will only stay if he sees a modernising innovating team coming in... I am expecting a lot of modernising in all areas of the club, I am also expecting SD will buy into the plan as a whole concept and not just that they have made him football guarantees. I’m sure there will be plenty that I don’t like as well as those that I do.

I suspect they sat down with SD regarding the January window and it was jointly agreed we could hang fire until the dust settled at the end of the season when pieces fall into place.

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Re: SD & Pace

Post by ClaretTony » Sat Apr 03, 2021 8:07 pm

elwaclaret wrote:
Sat Apr 03, 2021 8:01 pm
I suspect they sat down with SD regarding the January window and it was jointly agreed we could hang fire until the dust settled at the end of the season when pieces fall into place.
We put good offers in for players but couldn’t agree deals. We tried very hard to strengthen in January.

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Post by bfcjg » Sat Apr 03, 2021 8:09 pm

He's tried it a few times most notably Aaron Lennon, however it has never quite worked as their tracking back is poor.

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Re: SD & Pace

Post by Elizabeth » Sat Apr 03, 2021 8:10 pm

Certainly Pace needs Dyche more than the other way round . I’ll reserve judgement on these so called ‘exciting times ahead’

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Re: SD & Pace

Post by DCWat » Sat Apr 03, 2021 8:11 pm

Agents are ******** is what I think Pace took from January.

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Re: SD & Pace

Post by elwaclaret » Sat Apr 03, 2021 8:12 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Sat Apr 03, 2021 8:07 pm
We put good offers in for players but couldn’t agree deals. We tried very hard to strengthen in January.
Fair enough, you would know better than me about that Tony. I just never got the feelings we were anywhere near and usually there is at least a few sniffs doing the rounds.

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Re: SD & Pace

Post by Grumps » Sat Apr 03, 2021 8:17 pm

elwaclaret wrote:
Sat Apr 03, 2021 8:12 pm
Fair enough, you would know better than me about that Tony. I just never got the feelings we were anywhere near and usually there is at least a few sniffs doing the rounds.
There was an interview with dyche where he said words to the effect that we'd put cheeky bids in for a couple of players, but never got close to an acceptable fee

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Re: SD & Pace

Post by elwaclaret » Sat Apr 03, 2021 8:24 pm

Grumps wrote:
Sat Apr 03, 2021 8:17 pm
There was an interview with dyche where he said words to the effect that we'd put cheeky bids in for a couple of players, but never got close to an acceptable fee
Yes remember that Grumps... but for me, you always put in a couple of cheeky ones. Some times it lands Cantona most often it doesn’t... but that is different than actively pursuing targets.

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Re: SD & Pace

Post by ClaretTony » Sat Apr 03, 2021 8:26 pm

Grumps wrote:
Sat Apr 03, 2021 8:17 pm
There was an interview with dyche where he said words to the effect that we'd put cheeky bids in for a couple of players, but never got close to an acceptable fee
We put in genuine offers for players that fell short.

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Re: SD & Pace

Post by JohnDearyMe » Sat Apr 03, 2021 8:27 pm

Good to read Taylor and Cork could potentially be back in the matchday squad

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Re: SD & Pace

Post by FCBurnley » Sat Apr 03, 2021 8:50 pm

Marney&Mee wrote:
Sat Apr 03, 2021 7:23 pm
SD is good, but he’ll never surpass Hale...
How about a meet The Chairman Evening
Ale and Pace ?
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Post by Hedontplayforyou » Sat Apr 03, 2021 8:53 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Sat Apr 03, 2021 8:26 pm
We put in genuine offers for players that fell short.
There was eh story knocking around about Collins from Stoke , this may have been one
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Re: SD & Pace

Post by gsyclaret » Sat Apr 03, 2021 9:09 pm

FCBurnley wrote:
Sat Apr 03, 2021 8:50 pm
How about a meet The Chairman Evening
Ale and Pace ?
Brilliant, my favourite was the marbles sketch
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Re: SD & Pace

Post by huw.Y.WattfromWare » Sat Apr 03, 2021 9:09 pm

Elizabeth wrote:
Sat Apr 03, 2021 8:10 pm
Certainly Pace needs Dyche more than the other way round . I’ll reserve judgement on these so called ‘exciting times ahead’
SD doesn’t need Pace. Not to stand on the touchline. Now when he was a player......

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sat Apr 03, 2021 9:32 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Sat Apr 03, 2021 8:07 pm
We put good offers in for players but couldn’t agree deals. We tried very hard to strengthen in January.
I do find it interesting that the previous owners got slated for lack of business in transfer windows, yet our first transfer window in what 6+ years without signing player and people arnt concerned. Let’s see what happens with Pace and Dyche, I think people need to prepare themselves for a Rocky few months. This summer is arguably one of the most important windows of Dyches tenure. They either invest (and I would suggest rather heavily) or Dyche walks

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Re: SD & Pace

Post by ClaretTony » Sat Apr 03, 2021 9:39 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sat Apr 03, 2021 9:32 pm
I do find it interesting that the previous owners got slated for lack of business in transfer windows, yet our first transfer window in what 6+ years without signing player and people arnt concerned. Let’s see what happens with Pace and Dyche, I think people need to prepare themselves for a Rocky few months. This summer is arguably one of the most important windows of Dyches tenure. They either invest (and I would suggest rather heavily) or Dyche walks
I remain totally convinced that Dyche would have gone last summer had there been any vacancies.

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sat Apr 03, 2021 9:42 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Sat Apr 03, 2021 9:39 pm
I remain totally convinced that Dyche would have gone last summer had there been any vacancies.
Tony he looks to be relatively happy right now. I am assuming if the new owners invest there’s a good chance he will stay? Or are you under the impression if an offer comes along he is off?

Must admit I can’t imagine he will be particularly happy with having to sell his best players just to sign new ones.

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Re: SD & Pace

Post by ClaretTony » Sat Apr 03, 2021 9:44 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sat Apr 03, 2021 9:42 pm
Tony he looks to be relatively happy right now. I am assuming if the new owners invest there’s a good chance he will stay? Or are you under the impression if an offer comes along he is off?

Must admit I can’t imagine he will be particularly happy with having to sell his best players just to sign new ones.
I really don’t know what the situation is like now but I know how bad it was previously.

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Re: SD & Pace

Post by burnley007 » Sat Apr 03, 2021 11:20 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Sat Apr 03, 2021 9:44 pm
I really don’t know what the situation is like now but I know how bad it was previously.
Hopefully a whole lot better than it was.
I'm sure there's been a lot of discussion/planning for the summer. Let's hope it's a good one, we seriously need some younger players ASAP.

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Re: SD & Pace

Post by ClaretTony » Sat Apr 03, 2021 11:44 pm

burnley007 wrote:
Sat Apr 03, 2021 11:20 pm
Hopefully a whole lot better than it was.
I'm sure there's been a lot of discussion/planning for the summer. Let's hope it's a good one, we seriously need some younger players ASAP.
From the information I have, it couldn't have been worse.
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Re: SD & Pace

Post by huw.Y.WattfromWare » Sun Apr 04, 2021 12:40 am

Calm lads. Data still being analysed.

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Re: SD & Pace

Post by CharlieinNewMexico » Sun Apr 04, 2021 7:54 am

bfcjg wrote:
Sat Apr 03, 2021 8:09 pm
He's tried it a few times most notably Aaron Lennon, however it has never quite worked as their tracking back is poor.
Well I got it
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Re: SD & Pace

Post by beddie » Sun Apr 04, 2021 8:11 am

My only concern is that regardless of the healthy relationship and the way they both intend to move the Club forward we get another Club in the summer wanting permission to speak with Dyche, if that happens and I've a gut feeling it will then he'll be gone. I really hope I'm wrong.

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Re: SD & Pace

Post by gtclaret » Sun Apr 04, 2021 9:49 am

Last transfer window was very difficult for all clubs. The whole situation in football was unusual to say the least. AP did say in an interview that it was the Agents that were the biggest problem

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Re: SD & Pace

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sun Apr 04, 2021 9:52 am

gtclaret wrote:
Sun Apr 04, 2021 9:49 am
Last transfer window was very difficult for all clubs. The whole situation in football was unusual to say the least. AP did say in an interview that it was the Agents that were the biggest problem
To be fair Gt agents aren’t going anywhere. We need to accept that and start moving with the times.

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Re: SD & Pace

Post by Spijed » Sun Apr 04, 2021 10:22 am

beddie wrote:
Sun Apr 04, 2021 8:11 am
My only concern is that regardless of the healthy relationship and the way they both intend to move the Club forward we get another Club in the summer wanting permission to speak with Dyche, if that happens and I've a gut feeling it will then he'll be gone. I really hope I'm wrong.
It'll be a very limited number of clubs in the Prem, if that, and he certainly won't go to any Championship club as that would look stupid on his part.

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Re: SD & Pace

Post by Belgianclaret » Sun Apr 04, 2021 2:05 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Sat Apr 03, 2021 11:44 pm
From the information I have, it couldn't have been worse.
Any more info on this Tony?

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Re: SD & Pace

Post by Superjohnnyfrancis » Sun Apr 04, 2021 8:34 pm

beddie wrote:
Sun Apr 04, 2021 8:11 am
My only concern is that regardless of the healthy relationship and the way they both intend to move the Club forward we get another Club in the summer wanting permission to speak with Dyche, if that happens and I've a gut feeling it will then he'll be gone. I really hope I'm wrong.
As long as we have a forward thinking manager (waiting in the wings) willing to play better football and we get compensation for Dyche I dont think that would be a bad thing, careful wht you wish for i guess.

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