claretonthecoast1882 wrote: ↑

Mon Apr 12, 2021 7:54 am

Imagine staying up til 4am to slate a club, manager and players you don't care about.

How empty must a life be

Oh, the irony!

Guller Bull wrote: ↑

Thu Apr 08, 2021 8:33 pm

I'd be surprised if Man U were not interested - they need a cultured defender to make McGuire look better than average.

Rileybobs wrote: ↑

Sun Apr 11, 2021 11:12 pm

Did he look totally disinterested when he threw himself at the ball on the line in the last minute to prevent Newcastle’s third?

After he got absolutely roasted 1v1 again, he got outmuscled by ASM.

KRBFC wrote: ↑

Mon Apr 12, 2021 9:45 am

After he got absolutely roasted 1v1 again, he got outmuscled by ASM.

But what has that got to do with him looking totally disinterested?

Rileybobs wrote: ↑

Mon Apr 12, 2021 9:28 am

But my question was did he look totally disinterested when he got himself onto the goal line to stop a certain goal in the final minutes?

he was doing his job. I'm observing that he's not enjoying playing much at the moment, whether thats looking disinterested or whatever I don't know, but in seasons prior to this one - he's been immense and playing with the "Legs-Hearts-Mind" motto in full view, but this season he's not appeared to do so.

Longsidebogs wrote: ↑

Sun Apr 11, 2021 9:47 pm

Tarky is no England international. In fact he is already playing at least one level higher than he should be. He looks totally disinterested. As soon as we are safe (one more win)? let’s get him benched and look for any suitors.

Christ on a bike!

James Tarkowski IS an England international, and has the caps to prove this. He is a quality Premier League footballer, he could and likely will play for in a team higher up the league to us, as evidenced by West Ham and Leicester's interest last summer.

He is a very good defender for Burnley Football Club. Time will tell if he can apply his skill set to a different setup with a more expansive style. But if and when leaves, it will be with mine and other thanks for serving BFC well.

diamondpocket wrote: ↑

Mon Apr 12, 2021 9:34 am

Oh, the irony!

You ok love ?

tim_noone wrote: ↑

Sun Apr 11, 2021 11:35 pm

Hes Regressed quite Noticeably.

He is in and out for sure, it's almost like his disappointment of not getting the move has got to him (unintentionally, just natural I guess) and has affected some of his decisions. Hopefully he'll give us enough to get us over the line this season and then if he gets his move good luck to him

Claret_tinted wrote: ↑

Mon Apr 12, 2021 10:29 am

Christ on a bike!

James Tarkowski IS an England international, and has the caps to prove this. He is a quality Premier League footballer, he could and likely will play for in a team higher up the league to us, as evidenced by West Ham and Leicester's interest last summer.

He is a very good defender for Burnley Football Club. Time will tell if he can apply his skill set to a different setup with a more expansive style. But if and when leaves, it will be with mine and other thanks for serving BFC well.

I think there's plenty of PL clubs would take him at £25-£30 million

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑

Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:40 pm

On current form there will be no takers

For a fee of 10-15 million I reckon there will be. Even if Leicester or West Ham use him as a squad player.

boatshed bill wrote: ↑

Mon Apr 12, 2021 3:01 pm

I think there's plenty of PL clubs would take him at £25-£30 million

Agreed

boatshed bill wrote: ↑

Mon Apr 12, 2021 3:01 pm

I think there's plenty of PL clubs would take him at £25-£30 million

If we get £25-£30m we'll be doing well considering he's entering the final year of his contract, if and when he goes he'll go with my blessing, he's proven himself to be a great servant to BFC, and for those who don't think he's PL material he's played over 150 games at this level for Burnley, so he must be showing something to SD and the coaches, now whether he can make the transition to a bigger club and a different style time will tell, but Michael Keane certainly showed that we can produce players who can make the step up.

Superb player for us.

You don’t keep a player against their wishes, and you don’t let a player walk for free that you can get good money for to reinvest. That is the definition of stupidity.

We no doubt have a tidy reputation for developing players. How many have we had play for England in recent seasons? 5/6? That’s our UP, and it should be a real bargaining chip when we chase potential signings.

If and when he does go, he’ll be fondly remembered, and who can blame him for one last payday in what is a short career.

He has done us proud.

Hope he stays, as this is his peak. He will probably go and if so best wishes.

boatshed bill wrote: ↑

Mon Apr 12, 2021 3:01 pm

I think there's plenty of PL clubs would take him at £25-£30 million

Given that we only received a 30m bid last summer with two years left on his contract when his stock was at his highest. We will be lucky to get 15-20m for him now.

No doubting he's a terrific player, but he has dropped off this season. Just can't see him getting the move he wanted, in footballing terms. Ive no doubt there are better and younger CH to be had for less money in Europe.

CFS wrote: ↑

Mon Apr 12, 2021 3:48 am

Plan for the summer? Deals are being put on the table to Brady and gudmunson as we speak. Rolling the club forward top half and above? We aren't playing in the championship next season you do know that don't you?

????? Too clever for me

Contrary to most it seems, I do not think Tarks has enjoyed the same level of sustained performance as in previous seasons. Nor do not think there will be the same clamour for his signature that there seemed to be previously for him come summer. I expect Tarks to be here next season as a result, either signing a new deal or leaving for free to stimulate interest from those unwilling to meet our valuation

Would not surprise me if Wolves went for him. Could form quite a partnership with Coady, and I think Wolves will be strengthening their squad this Summer

CFS wrote: ↑

Mon Apr 12, 2021 3:48 am

Plan for the summer? Deals are being put on the table to Brady and gudmunson as we speak. Rolling the club forward top half and above? We aren't playing in the championship next season you do know that don't you?

Do keep up JBG signed an extension a few months ago, Brady can go though he's a liability these days.

warksclaret wrote: ↑

Mon Apr 12, 2021 5:35 pm

Would not surprise me if Wolves went for him. Could form quite a partnership with Coady, and I think Wolves will be strengthening their squad this Summer

Boly is better than Tarky.

Mental replies after the Newcastle game. He is still our best outfield player. Strange folk.

claretcarrot93 wrote: ↑

Mon Apr 12, 2021 7:04 pm

Mental replies after the Newcastle game. He is still our best outfield player. Strange folk.

Why are they mental? I disagree with most of them, but to call someone strange because they do not share you opinion is... well, strange. Either you are the oracle of football, think your intellect is superior or at best intolerant of others stating their opinion. Your’s is Not the sort of comment designed to engage question why or interrogate others position. So I suspect it is not option 2.

In my opinion, Mee and Tarkowski are a terrific defensive pairing. I love watching the way they work. Long may it continue!

elwaclaret wrote: ↑

Mon Apr 12, 2021 7:11 pm

Why are they mental? I disagree with most of them, but to call someone strange because they do not share you opinion is... well, strange. Either you are the oracle of football, think your intellect is superior or at best intolerant of others stating their opinion. Your’s is Not the sort of comment designed to engage question why or interrogate others position. So I suspect it is not option 2.

Its mental to say Tarkowski does not look interested and its mental to say he is championship level. You want another word>>> Wrong/Incorrect/Baffling/blind

claretcarrot93 wrote: ↑

Mon Apr 12, 2021 7:37 pm

Its mental to say Tarkowski does not look interested and its mental to say he is championship level. You want another word>>> Wrong/Incorrect/Baffling/blind

I do not disagree with your sentiment, just your wording.

I'm not sure why people think Leicester and West Ham won't be interested anymore? He'll be going cheap and with them both likely to be playing in Europe there's plenty of games to be played.

jrgbfc wrote: ↑

Mon Apr 12, 2021 8:26 pm

I'm not sure why people think Leicester and West Ham won't be interested anymore? He'll be going cheap and with them both likely to be playing in Europe there's plenty of games to be played.

Exactly, and it would be a move purely for a pay rise.
He would be a squad member as opposed to a nailed-on starter. Would that help his international prospects?

jrgbfc wrote: ↑

Mon Apr 12, 2021 8:26 pm

I'm not sure why people think Leicester and West Ham won't be interested anymore? He'll be going cheap and with them both likely to be playing in Europe there's plenty of games to be played.

Think people are just more of the opinion that clubs like Leicester and West Ham can sign defenders of similar quality for less wages and fee.
I mean look at last summer, Burnley turned down 30m for Tarks. Leicester sign Fofana for approx 30m. Everton sign Godfrey for approx 30m. West Ham sign Dawson for 3m.

All arguably better than Tarks.

I think Tarks has missed his chance, I just don’t see what team is going to spend between 15-20m on a fee and then what 100k a week on him. All the mid table teams have really good CBS not sure who is spending that kind of money on a bench player.

He’d best knuckle down then and sign a new contract with us then get back to his best form. Every chance of moving in another year or two if he sets the world on fire like he used to

elwaclaret wrote: ↑

Mon Apr 12, 2021 5:27 pm

Contrary to most it seems, I do not think Tarks has enjoyed the same level of sustained performance as in previous seasons. Nor do not think there will be the same clamour for his signature that there seemed to be previously for him come summer. I expect Tarks to be here next season as a result, either signing a new deal or leaving for free to stimulate interest from those unwilling to meet our valuation

His stock peaked last year and only Leicester and West Ham appeared to have any kind of interest. Leicester's reported max bid was £25m?

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑

Mon Apr 12, 2021 8:52 pm

Think people are just more of the opinion that clubs like Leicester and West Ham can sign defenders of similar quality for less wages and fee.
I mean look at last summer, Burnley turned down 30m for Tarks. Leicester sign Fofana for approx 30m. Everton sign Godfrey for approx 30m. West Ham sign Dawson for 3m.

All arguably better than Tarks.

I think Tarks has missed his chance, I just don’t see what team is going to spend between 15-20m on a fee and then what 100k a week on him. All the mid table teams have really good CBS not sure who is spending that kind of money on a bench player.

I think we’d do very well to get £15M this summer.

If we do get an offer circa £15M or above then we need to take it. And with the £8M for Gibson, we have the basis of a kitty to work with. Collins from Stoke would be a start.

KRBFC wrote: ↑

Mon Apr 12, 2021 11:14 pm

His stock peaked last year and only Leicester and West Ham appeared to have any kind of interest. Leicester's reported max bid was £25m?

"only Leicester & West Ham" there are only the 2 Manchester sides above them in the league after 31 games

Teams that are currently 3rd and 4th in the league and a few games away from qualifying for the champions league

I am hopeful that both SD and Tarks can be tied down for longer contracts this Summer-more so than in the Summer. I hope that Tarks looks at Hendrick's plight. He rarely now starts at Newcastle. Yes Tarks could move on, but seem to recall he favours the North West, and personally I cant see any of the N W PL sides wanting him, other than as a squad player.I believe with our form this year and his contract reducing, his worth has dropped.

He is still our king pin and can be a big fish in a small pond. If ALK are able to prove we have funds to bring in new and younger faces in Summer then that could ensure both these two key guys get new contracts

No excuses when the window opens. We have known our requirements for the past 3 windows

One of our best players that’s for sure. JT is an absolute rock.
Personally I think he should play in midfield.
He would outmuscle most and he can take on players and we have seen some useful runs past opposition players.

Next Sunday will be the perfect opportunity for JT to put himself in the window for the summer transfer market

Hope they play Cavani up front as his guile and knowledge of the game will test JT and BM. Tarks has made some individual mistakes in the last couple of games and, as a central defender, they are scrutinised more than most

There will be teams interested next summer and if they feel they seriously need JT for the following season they will be prepared to pay decent money

Based on the alleged statement last summer he clearly wants to have a crack at playing for a bigger club with european competition and nobody could argue with that

claretonthecoast1882 wrote: ↑

Tue Apr 13, 2021 8:13 am

"only Leicester & West Ham" there are only the 2 Manchester sides above them in the league after 31 games

Teams that are currently 3rd and 4th in the league and a few games away from qualifying for the champions league

Both teams who have since added central defenders and are doing well without JT

Leicester and West Ham keep getting linked withe Eduardo of Celtic, not heard Tarks mentioned anywhere so far (good)

I think he should look at Keanes struggles with Everton. Keane was awesome for us but it's a very different story when you're in a more attacking team. Compared to Keane, Tarkowski also has no pace which will hinder him playing for sides that like to attack with a high line.

A team like Leicester that sit back and counter would suit him more. I actually don't think he'll be good enough to play for England ahead of Maguire or Stones. He may make a sub but even then Southgate is going to prefer younger players ahead of him.

I tend to think that if Tarkowski leaves, he will look back on his career and think that his best football was played at Burnley.

KRBFC wrote: ↑

Wed Apr 14, 2021 12:57 am

Both teams who have since added central defenders and are doing well without JT

And prior to adding those players both were linked with Tarks, good point.

claretonthecoast1882 wrote: ↑

Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:59 am

And prior to adding those players both were linked with Tarks, good point.

Which was my initial point............