• ARTICLE: Under-23s home programme to end at Curzon Ashton

Posted: **Mon Apr 12, 2021 9:35 am**

U23s v Norwich this afternoon at Curzon Ashton

See link
https://www.uptheclarets.com/under-23s- ... zon-ashton

Posted: **Mon Apr 12, 2021 1:12 pm**

Team

Marc Richter, Trialist, Richard Nartey, Jake Rooney, Anthony Glennon, Max Thompson, Josh Benson, Anthony Gomez Mancini, Ne-Jai Tucker, Lewis Richardson, Joel Mumbongo.

Subs: Lewis Thomas, Matty Rain, Dara Costelloe, Sam Unwin, Rob Harker.

Posted: **Mon Apr 12, 2021 1:20 pm**

Is the triallist the Defender from West Brom?

Posted: **Mon Apr 12, 2021 1:22 pm**

randomclaret2 wrote: ↑
Mon Apr 12, 2021 1:20 pm
Is the triallist the Defender from West Brom?

Or are we having another look at the lad from Blackburn?

Posted: **Mon Apr 12, 2021 1:26 pm**

Leisure wrote: ↑
Mon Apr 12, 2021 1:22 pm
Or are we having another look at the lad from Blackburn?

Don’t think it’s the lad from Blackburn. I think our interest in him has ended.

I’ve no idea who it is but the West Brom lad is called Harry Williams.

Posted: **Mon Apr 12, 2021 1:27 pm**

Leisure wrote: ↑
Mon Apr 12, 2021 1:22 pm
Or are we having another look at the lad from Blackburn?

Hasn't the Blackburn Lad gone back

am sure I read that somewhere ... I would have thought its the Wwst Brom lad

Posted: **Mon Apr 12, 2021 1:32 pm**

With the scores at the minute today we've just dropped out of the play off places.

Posted: **Mon Apr 12, 2021 1:46 pm**

Bosscat wrote: ↑
Mon Apr 12, 2021 1:27 pm
Hasn't the Blackburn Lad gone back am sure I read that somewhere ... I would have thought its the Wwst Brom lad

Not a case of him having gone back. We took a look at him and played him twice but I was told we weren’t considering signing him.

Posted: **Mon Apr 12, 2021 2:02 pm**

ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Mon Apr 12, 2021 1:46 pm
Not a case of him having gone back. We took a look at him and played him twice but I was told we weren’t considering signing him.

Thats kind of what I meant Tony

Posted: **Mon Apr 12, 2021 2:27 pm**

0-0 after 25 mins. We’ve had a goal disallowed but looked harsh.

Posted: **Mon Apr 12, 2021 2:34 pm**

1-0 to Norwich

Posted: **Mon Apr 12, 2021 2:38 pm**

ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Mon Apr 12, 2021 2:34 pm
1-0 to Norwich

Form seems to have dipped off recently

Posted: **Mon Apr 12, 2021 2:39 pm**

ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Mon Apr 12, 2021 2:27 pm
0-0 after 25 mins. We’ve had a goal disallowed but looked harsh.

That's an understatement, ridiculous decision. Norwich defenders took each other out after Richardson's cute turn and somehow the ref saw it as a foul by Richardson.

Posted: **Mon Apr 12, 2021 2:39 pm**

2-0 to Norwich

Posted: **Mon Apr 12, 2021 2:41 pm**

Nartey poor mistake for first, long ball between the two central defenders for second. We hit the bar between the two goals.

Posted: **Mon Apr 12, 2021 2:48 pm**

Half time

Burnley 0 Norwich 2

Posted: **Mon Apr 12, 2021 2:50 pm**

Looks like training and travelling with the first team has been detrimental to some of our lads.

Posted: **Mon Apr 12, 2021 2:52 pm**

boatshed bill wrote: ↑
Mon Apr 12, 2021 2:50 pm
Looks like training and travelling with the first team has been detrimental to some of our lads.

Certainly very little to get excited about this afternoon

Posted: **Mon Apr 12, 2021 2:57 pm**

Nartey is usually Mr Reliable at the back, got caught far too easily there.

Posted: **Mon Apr 12, 2021 3:28 pm**

boatshed bill wrote: ↑
Mon Apr 12, 2021 2:57 pm
Nartey is usually Mr Reliable at the back, got caught far too easily there.

Believe so.

Half way through second half. We’ve had more of the play but not really threatening.

Posted: **Mon Apr 12, 2021 3:33 pm**

Richardson 74 mins, 1-2

Posted: **Mon Apr 12, 2021 3:42 pm**

83 mins: 2-2, Costelloe

Posted: **Mon Apr 12, 2021 3:43 pm**

Very composed. Came after Richardson hit the woodwork again.

Posted: **Mon Apr 12, 2021 4:01 pm**

Very similar to Sunday's game. We had the best of the play, had a goal disallowed very harshly, gave a goal away and missed chances when we were on top and they capitalised because they always looked dangerous on the break.
Worked hard to get back on level terms but never looked like winning it.
You have to take your chances when you are on top otherwise it comes back to bite you.

Posted: **Mon Apr 12, 2021 4:09 pm**

Great comeback by the lads, shows they have plenty of character, and Richardson on the scoresheet again.

Posted: **Mon Apr 12, 2021 4:15 pm**

Gomez Mancini and Richardson again looked a class above.

Thompson looks to be bulking up a bit which is good, still think he's a better striker than winger but just like the first team the U23s are really short of wingers and he's not bad out there. Costelloe took his goal very well.

Posted: **Mon Apr 12, 2021 4:16 pm**

Mattster wrote: ↑
Mon Apr 12, 2021 4:15 pm
Gomez Mancini and Richardson again looked a class above.

I've picked those two out along with Glennon and Costelloe who I thought linked up really well down the left in the second half.

https://www.uptheclarets.com/under-23s- ... nd-to-draw

Posted: **Mon Apr 12, 2021 4:22 pm**

randomclaret2 wrote: ↑
Mon Apr 12, 2021 1:20 pm
Is the triallist the Defender from West Brom?

I don't think you will be a million miles out with that one

Posted: **Mon Apr 12, 2021 5:32 pm**

I liked the trialist. He looked good with both feet, and headed the ball well, decent throw-in too.
i'm not too sure about Richter,to be honest, I think he's a bit shakey coming off his line.

Posted: **Mon Apr 12, 2021 5:51 pm**

boatshed bill wrote: ↑
Mon Apr 12, 2021 5:32 pm
I liked the trialist. He looked good with both feet, and headed the ball well, decent throw-in too.
i'm not too sure about Richter,to be honest, I think he's a bit shakey coming off his line.

On what scale would you rate the under 23 keeper Richter then Bill

Posted: **Mon Apr 12, 2021 5:53 pm**

Bosscat wrote: ↑
Mon Apr 12, 2021 5:51 pm
On what scale would you rate the under 23 keeper Richter then Bill

Not earth-shatteringly high, Boss

Posted: **Mon Apr 12, 2021 7:36 pm**

First time I’ve seen Richter. I suppose he’s benefited in terms of game time because of Jensen being out on loan.

Posted: **Mon Apr 12, 2021 8:07 pm**

ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Mon Apr 12, 2021 7:36 pm
First time I’ve seen Richter. I suppose he’s benefited in terms of game time because of Jensen being out on loan.

CT, I've seen him in some of these streamed games.
I don't like to be too critical of players who are still developing their game, but I would say he needs to improve his one-on-one work, coming off his line.

Posted: **Mon Apr 12, 2021 8:15 pm**

It’s a shame we didn’t get the three points yesterday. Richardson could potentially have started a couple of games if we had nothing to play for.

Posted: **Tue Apr 13, 2021 11:04 am**

boatshed bill wrote: ↑
Mon Apr 12, 2021 8:07 pm
CT, I've seen him in some of these streamed games.
I don't like to be too critical of players who are still developing their game, but I would say he needs to improve his one-on-one work, coming off his line.

I wouldn't be too concerned about being critical given the coach has given them another public blasting.

Posted: **Tue Apr 13, 2021 11:14 am**

ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Tue Apr 13, 2021 11:04 am
I wouldn't be too concerned about being critical given the coach has given them another public blasting.

Yeah, the results have been pretty good for our first season at this level but you do have to question how Stone seems to speak and you can understand why there were those reported complaints that led to his suspension.

Posted: **Tue Apr 13, 2021 11:18 am**

Mattster wrote: ↑
Tue Apr 13, 2021 11:14 am
Yeah, the results have been pretty good for our first season at this level but you do have to question how Stone seems to speak and you can understand why there were those reported complaints that led to his suspension.

Having just read the report on the official site, what has he said that he shouldn't.

Cotton wooling this age group then chucking some in a senior squad would do none of them any good

Posted: **Tue Apr 13, 2021 11:29 am**

claretonthecoast1882 wrote: ↑
Tue Apr 13, 2021 11:18 am
Having just read the report on the official site, what has he said that he shouldn't.

Cotton wooling this age group then chucking some in a senior squad would do none of them any good

Stone's quoted remarks are in stark contrast to the tone adopted by Dyche, however poor the performance he is commenting on.

Posted: **Tue Apr 13, 2021 11:29 am**

Spot on re Steve Stone .Its necessary to explain what's required re standards and performance of the players , excepting 2nd best has led to losses in this and the first team.
Football is a hard world and sometimes developing players have to be prepared to accept criticism

Posted: **Tue Apr 13, 2021 11:31 am**

randomclaret2 wrote: ↑
Tue Apr 13, 2021 11:29 am
Stone's quoted remarks are in stark contrast to the tone adopted by Dyche, however poor the performance he is commenting on.

You have never heard Dyche say we were miles off what we should be doing ?

Posted: **Tue Apr 13, 2021 11:59 am**

Woodleyclaret wrote: ↑
Tue Apr 13, 2021 11:29 am
Spot on re Steve Stone .Its necessary to explain what's required re standards and performance of the players , excepting 2nd best has led to losses in this and the first team.
Football is a hard world and sometimes developing players have to be prepared to accept criticism

Do you think it is necessary to say it to the whole world?

Posted: **Tue Apr 13, 2021 1:42 pm**

I was talking to a good friend who is an official and who officiated at one of our Under 23 games, he was amazed at Steve Stone's general behaviour towards his own players and the onfield officials.
Mind you, there are plenty of other clubs and coaches who are just as bad and possibly worse.

Posted: **Tue Apr 13, 2021 1:47 pm**

I wonder if Stone is one of those coaches who gets frustrated at his charges not being as good as he was as a player ( England Imternational etc. )

Posted: **Thu Apr 15, 2021 8:28 am**

Townson is another. Some really get into it a lot more than others. I think closer to the touchline it would be similar even with Dyche and Woan.

Young players need discipline but there's a fine line between that and bullying.

Posted: **Thu Apr 15, 2021 8:44 am**

ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Tue Apr 13, 2021 11:59 am
Do you think it is necessary to say it to the whole world?

Exactly. The young lady left the egg off my sausage egg McMuffin today but I’d be appalled if her manager told her off in front of customers. There’s a time and a place for a sit down and discussion and it’s not in public.

Posted: **Thu Apr 15, 2021 9:05 am**

Maybe it is part of getting them used to being slated in this world of social media over reaction. I know times they are a changing, but you need a thick skin to not let the noise around football get to you... might as well get them used to it.

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