No way on this planet have any of them realised it was a mistake....

Woodward going now. He will be utds fall guy, no doubt they will be out next.

conyoviejo wrote: ↑

Tue Apr 20, 2021 8:26 pm

Well done to everybody who has opposed this stupid idea and shown the football world that fans really do count..

And that fans do care.

The ECA or whatever is called should refuse to accept representatives of these 12 clubs back into the fold

The most appropriate punishment for these clubs is not to give them any representative position on any executive in the game for a very extended period. let them see how it feels to be on the receiving end of others desires for decades and feel what the sense of powerlessness is like

Lowbankclaret wrote: ↑

Tue Apr 20, 2021 8:18 pm

Are they saying the world fan reaction or the 300 that turned up tonight.
I don’t think they would admit it was Boris, not good PR.

Much better to say they listened to the fans. Being a cynic.

I think it’s been a combination of factors. The fan/media reaction being one, but Boris turning the screw gave them no other option.

Credit to Boris. Credit to the fans. Credit to the players/managers who’ve spoken out. And credit to the media for the platform they’ve provided to be fair.

Just hope this properly weakens those clubs now.

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑

Tue Apr 20, 2021 7:35 pm

Say what you want about the ESL, the knock-out stages are exciting

Bravo !!!

Good summary taken from SM

"Watching the ESL crumble is breathtaking and I couldn’t be happier. But let’s remember why we came together. A group of billionaires who couldn’t care less about the you, me or our communities. This isn’t just football. This greed exists everywhere."

jtv wrote: ↑

Tue Apr 20, 2021 8:30 pm

The ECA or whatever is called should refuse to accept representatives of these 12 clubs back into the fold

Without doubt.
These clubs need to be shown that there is a price for their selfishness. Having no say in the future of the direction of European competition, at least until the present boards have disappeared.

Lowbankclaret wrote: ↑

Tue Apr 20, 2021 8:22 pm

Souness suggests the supporters might run the owners or at least the chairman out of town, they have done it before.

Carragher said the same last night

Lowbankclaret wrote: ↑

Tue Apr 20, 2021 8:24 pm

Well good for them realising it was a mistake.

Not seen any confirmed reports of any other clubs pulling out but Ed going suggests Utd are not far behind.

City & Chelsea gone. Woodward leaving as planned at end of 2021. Apparently just brought the announcement forward.

Things have taken a turn for the better this evening.

Not the end certainly. Not even the beginning of the end. But it is the end of the beginning.

Even after all this collapses the teams involved should start next season on minus 30 points, kicked out of all Cup competitions for 5 years a transfer embargo for 2 seasons and made to wear a convicts style football strip all season

Fans, not customers, nor followers!

If the last 12 months has told us anything, football is nothing without fans!

Kenny Dalglish hoping Liverpool do the right thing....

Juve denying Agnelli has gone.

played a big part for sure

Chester Perry wrote: ↑

Tue Apr 20, 2021 8:31 pm

The most appropriate punishment for these clubs is not to give them any representative position on any executive in the game for a very extended period. let them see how it feels to be on the receiving end of others desires for decades and feel what the sense of powerlessness is like

Out of interest CP, now that these clubs have been weakened, might UEFA look at the CL proposals in a new light and scrap this coefficient nonsense? Or was that effectively sealed yesterday?

Once the dust settles there will be no punishment and it will be water under the bridge.

Surely can’t just draw a line under all this afterwards and carry on as though nothing has happened. There has got to serious ramifications for all involved.

NewClaret wrote: ↑

Tue Apr 20, 2021 8:53 pm

Out of interest CP, now that these clubs have been weakened, might UEFA look at the CL proposals in a new light and scrap this coefficient nonsense? Or was that effectively sealed yesterday?

we can only hope, but I fear not

EDIT I should add that there are a few things that UEFA can still do

- make the extra four places go to champions not coefficients
- have a more equitable distribution of prize money across it's 3 competitions
- end the coefficient bonus that saw Real Madrid receive an extra Euro 35m for qualifying

does anyone think the other 14 will just let is slide ? I don't

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑

Tue Apr 20, 2021 8:57 pm

does anyone think the other 14 will just let is slide ? I don't

Yes. I think they will let it lie.

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑

Tue Apr 20, 2021 8:57 pm

does anyone think the other 14 will just let is slide ? I don't

VILLA: PL CLUBS WILL CONSIDER 'PUNITIVE ACTIONS' AGAINST SUPER LEAGUE SIX

Aston Villa say that they and the other 13 Premier League clubs who met today will "consider a range of punitive actions" against the clubs who who were part of a breakaway Super League.

"Aston Villa stands alongside all the clubs, supporters groups and the entire football family who have condemned the plans to create a so-called European Super League," a club statement said.

"We are not standing idly by allowing the dreams of Aston Villa fans to be taken away by this sinister scheme.

"Working along with fellow members of the Premier League and its Board we have today agreed to consider a range of punitive actions against those clubs and their executives who are involved.

"We are reassured by the UK government’s position and the range of legislative options under consideration to do whatever it takes to prevent this scheme from becoming a reality."

They wanted to leave but now want to come back, not a chance I'd have them back, kick them out of the league

Can we all now go back to panicking about relegation ?

Chester Perry wrote: ↑

Tue Apr 20, 2021 8:56 pm

we can only hope, but I fear not

EDIT I should add that there are a few things that UEFA can still do

- make the extra four places go to champions not coefficients
- have a more equitable distribution of prize money across it's 3 competitions
- end the coefficient bonus that saw Real Madrid receive an extra Euro 35m for qualifying

Was it just Real who got that?
Hardly fair.

ClaretMov wrote: ↑

Tue Apr 20, 2021 8:49 pm

Even after all this collapses the teams involved should start next season on minus 30 points, kicked out of all Cup competitions for 5 years a transfer embargo for 2 seasons and made to wear a convicts style football strip all season

To be fair, Man United have been wearing a convicts kit all season with that black & white monstrosity. Little did we know they were trying to steal our game all along.

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑

Tue Apr 20, 2021 9:22 pm

Can we all now go back to panicking about relegation ?

It was a nice break whilst it lasted.

I think I missed being angry about the United result too. I’ll need to catch up on that.

UEFA president Ceferin: “I am delighted to welcome Manchester City back to the European football family. They have shown great intelligence. City are a real asset for the game and I am delighted to be working with them for a better future”.

The clubs involved must have known what the reaction of the fans and the media would be.

I think there is a hidden agenda here, although what that hidden agenda is I wouldn't like to say.

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑

Tue Apr 20, 2021 9:38 pm

UEFA president Ceferin: “I am delighted to welcome Manchester City back to the European football family. They have shown great intelligence. City are a real asset for the game and I am delighted to be working with them for a better future”.

Bit too quick to welcome them back in to the fold in my opinion.

lakedistrictclaret wrote: ↑

Tue Apr 20, 2021 9:42 pm

The clubs involved must have known what the reaction of the fans and the media would be.

I think there is a hidden agenda here, although what that hidden agenda is I wouldn't like to say.

A bigger slice of the TV money pie

ClaretMov wrote: ↑

Tue Apr 20, 2021 9:48 pm

A bigger slice of the TV money pie

That could well be it, CM.

I just hope that it all backfires horribly on the treacherous six.

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote: ↑

Tue Apr 20, 2021 9:22 pm

Was it just Real who got that?
Hardly fair.

no no

Chester Perry wrote: ↑

Tue Apr 20, 2021 11:50 am

@SwissRamble looks at the earnings from this years Champions League so far.

It is this level of revenue that has caused much of footballs recent problems, regular participation becomes a virtuous circle, particularly in the form of coefficient payments - it has underlined a sense of entitlement that now manifests as Super League

https://twitter.com/SwissRamble/status/ ... 7883463686

https://twitter.com/SwissRamble/status/ ... 37/photo/1

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑

Tue Apr 20, 2021 9:38 pm

UEFA president Ceferin: “I am delighted to welcome Manchester City back to the European football family. They have shown great intelligence. City are a real asset for the game and I am delighted to be working with them for a better future”.

If we forget about the FFP case that was overturned on a technicality?

Carabau cuup or whatever ...

Sod that

Man City spuds.....

I’ll be out for a walk........

Should all be relegated to the bottom of the football pyramid. Let’s see how much Pep and his lads fancy it on a cold Tuesday night up at Bacup Borough!

https://www.numericalcio.it/serie-a/100 ... -scissione

History repeats itself for Juve, Inter and Milan - interesting article from Gazzetta Dello Sport

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote: ↑

Tue Apr 20, 2021 10:18 pm

Should all be relegated to the bottom of the football pyramid. Let’s see how much Pep and his lads fancy it on a cold Tuesday night up at Bacup Borough!

Brent taught Pep everything he knows

claptrappers_union wrote: ↑

Tue Apr 20, 2021 10:31 pm

Brent taught Pep everything he knows

It would be the football management equivalent of Bobby Fischer v Boris Spassky

Chester Perry wrote: ↑

Tue Apr 20, 2021 9:54 pm

no no



https://twitter.com/SwissRamble/status/ ... 37/photo/1

Cheers for that, I've been distracted with some personal stuff so that slipped past me.

Would Love to know Redknapp's ten penneth..

The problem that these 6 disgraces of "football clubs" have got now is that in a PR sense they are holed below the water line, there is literally no one fighting their case, so public opinion which was already polarised against them is heading only one way.

It's all about extricating themselves to save their credibility now and for most right minded individuals it's way, way too late.

Call me cynical but there's no way they made a jump to row back so meekly. Something else has gone on underneath (or players at the 2 clubs have said they aren't prepared to be tarred with the bruah).

No way have some protests cause this row back.

Let's be honest the champions league is already a closed shop in those countries where the super league started.

lakedistrictclaret wrote: ↑

Tue Apr 20, 2021 9:42 pm

The clubs involved must have known what the reaction of the fans and the media would be.

I think there is a hidden agenda here, although what that hidden agenda is I wouldn't like to say.

Negotiating power.

"We'll stay, but only if you ENSURE we get more money"

All six PL clubs now withdrawn from ESL

Very good interview answer from Graham Potter of B&HA. Summed up football.

Looks like all 6 UK clubs have caved in!

Owner w Ankers!

what a despicable and disgusting few days that was. Repulsive greedy ******** showing their true colours, predominantly red and white it appears.
Shocking indictment of the modern era of football. The game has been soiled by utter ****.
We as fans were due to be dismissed as nothing, had these whores have got their way.
I rather doubt there will be much trust for a long, long time. The beauty of the game has been permanently tarnished by money grubbing rats. Hatred for them doesnt begin to describe it.

Remember folks