Today been charged with abh on a women in her 30s and common assault on a women in her 20s . Also been charged with coercive and contolling behaviour between 2017 and 2020. Oh dear think he could be looking at sometime at her majestys pleasure

He’s certainly not going to the Euros. The FAW have already announced that Rob Page will be in charge.

Claret tony ...yes just read that too. Not looking good . Some would say karma after what he did to his brother

I won't comment on the details of the case for obvious reasons, but in terms of the football it's more than likely Rob Page will be appointed on a long term basis I'd have thought, and TBF he's earned his shot, he's got Wales playing really well, and pulling off some seriously good results, so why not give him the gig on a full time basis.

Just further confirmation that away from football, he's a massive twohat

He’s always been a bit of a weasel, ask his brother

I saw an interview with Rhodri Giggs a week or so ago on YouTube. After that you’d be under no illusions what type of man Ryan is!

Some serious allegations against Giggs but let's allow the course of justice to play out and a verdict to be pronounced before we cast judgments from afar.

Agreed Rowls but if things go against him, he may well be running down a different wing than the one he's been used to.

A nasty piece of work is Giggs. Always has been.

Innocent until proven guilty, and suspect he’s not short of women keen to make accusations against him in the hope of a quick buck, but it does appear a pattern is emerging.

Rowls wrote: ↑

Fri Apr 23, 2021 6:43 pm

Some serious allegations against Giggs but let's allow the course of justice to play out and a verdict to be pronounced before we cast judgments from afar.

Exactly why I'm reluctant to comment on the ongoing case, however if Giggs is found guilty of some or all of these charges, I can't see how he can continue to work in football again, his character will be so severely tarnished that surely nobody will even consider employing him, and if anybody did the backlash would be intense.

He's either a nasty piece of work or he has a terribly poor taste in women.

No smoke?

Woodleyclaret wrote: ↑

Fri Apr 23, 2021 7:14 pm

No smoke?

A smoke machine?

fidelcastro wrote: ↑

Fri Apr 23, 2021 7:15 pm

A smoke machine?

Doesn’t emit smoke.

Rileybobs wrote: ↑

Fri Apr 23, 2021 7:18 pm

Doesn’t emit smoke.

I knew that. Just my flippant humour.

Ryan Giggs a fine upstanding member of the community.
Can’t believe there is anything in these accusations.

Women, so assume more than one. How many did he assault?

Ericajacko

Its says 2 on bbc website. One ABH , one coomon assault

I think we can safely say he will not get to manage the Wales ladies team.

fidelcastro wrote: ↑

Fri Apr 23, 2021 7:12 pm

He's either a nasty piece of work or he has a terribly poor taste in women.

Both?

boatshed bill wrote: ↑

Fri Apr 23, 2021 7:52 pm

Both?

I suppose that's possible too.

NewClaret wrote: ↑

Fri Apr 23, 2021 7:05 pm

Innocent until proven guilty, and suspect he’s not short of women keen to make accusations against him in the hope of a quick buck, but it does appear a pattern is emerging.

Of course.

But, to be charged with controlling and coercive behaviour is very telling.

The specific offence has only been around for 4/5 years, and is very, very difficult to prove. I’ve arrested men and women for this offence during domestics, and I can count on one hand the amount of times there has been a charge.

This isn’t just a man/woman telling their partner they can’t go to the pub on a Friday night. It’s a prolonged, systematic campaign of abuse and manipulation, to control every aspect of their victims life. Money, job, friends, appearance, everything. Over years.

I know how CPS work. They would never charge for controlling and coercive behaviour in court unless it was nailed on. The threshold is high, for domestics in general, but for controlling and coercive behaviour, it’s unbelievably so.

And for CPS to charge in such a high profile case, knowing Giggs can afford the best defence lawyers, makes it even more nailed on.

A fantastic player, but an absolute **** house of a man.

BurnleyFC wrote: ↑

Fri Apr 23, 2021 8:47 pm

A fantastic player, but an absolute **** house of a man.

Sounds like it. And he looks soft as ****. They should smack him back.

tiger76 wrote: ↑

Fri Apr 23, 2021 5:48 pm

I won't comment on the details of the case for obvious reasons, but in terms of the football it's more than likely Rob Page will be appointed on a long term basis I'd have thought, and TBF he's earned his shot, he's got Wales playing really well, and pulling off some seriously good results, so why not give him the gig on a full time basis.

Agreed.
I much prefer Rob page's team selections. How Sam vokes kept getting left on the bench when in decent enough form for the ineffective Tyler Roberts I have no idea. It cost us important points and a slip down the fifa rankings like not seen since tossack.

If he is found guilty, I’d be very surprised if he goes down. He will throw hundreds of thousands at it and it will pay off.

Having a shed load of money and access to the “best” lawyers will always be a better option than relying on justice.

tiger76 wrote: ↑

Fri Apr 23, 2021 7:12 pm

Exactly why I'm reluctant to comment on the ongoing case, however if Giggs is found guilty of some or all of these charges, I can't see how he can continue to work in football again, his character will be so severely tarnished that surely nobody will even consider employing him, and if anybody did the backlash would be intense.

He's done nothing as bad as Lee Hughes and the goalie..

bobinho wrote: ↑

Fri Apr 23, 2021 8:55 pm

If he is found guilty, I’d be very surprised if he goes down. He will throw hundreds of thousands at it and it will pay off.

Having a shed load of money and access to the “best” lawyers will always be a better option than relying on justice.

No chance of him serving time. The judge will see to that

he's finished in football management. that much is clear.

but i do think the 'no smoke..' proverb is the ugliest one in the english language.

yTib wrote: ↑

Sat Apr 24, 2021 12:46 am

he's finished in football management. that much is clear.

but i do think the 'no smoke..' proverb is the ugliest one in the english language.

I agree. It's crap, but it strings things together. He always came across as a bit of a ****. Sorry, but he did.

While I have nothing to say about the upcoming case, nor as to his character; however I remember seeing him in Kendal’s a couple of weeks before making his debut for United... that I remember him tells you something. Any one of us would have been thrown out, but the staff were obviously told to leave him to it... he hadn’t played a first team game and was so wealthy Kendall’s treated him like Elton John.... what chance does he have, when he’s been drooled over and worshipped since he was a kid. I do not like what I’ve seen of him but I can understand someone giving him a right good paggering in Kendall’s might have saved him a lot of grief.

He will have top lawyers, which will increase his chances of an acquittal before a jury.

I've had a look at the sentencing guidelines for coercive and controlling behaviour. Given that the dates of the charge cover over two years, making the case more serious, the starting point is six months imprisonment, up to two and a half years.
IF convicted ( and particularly if he is also convicted of the assault charges ), Giggs will be lucky to avoid prison. Courts do go outside the sentencing guidelines, but not often.

bobinho wrote: ↑

Fri Apr 23, 2021 8:55 pm

If he is found guilty, I’d be very surprised if he goes down. He will throw hundreds of thousands at it and it will pay off.

Having a shed load of money and access to the “best” lawyers will always be a better option than relying on justice.

Without a shadow, that’s exactly what will happen, it’s very unlikely that a custodial sentence will be the verdict, in any event he would be well & truly isolated away from the fellow inmates with his own cell furnished with a widescreen smart TV & a PlayStation 4.

Boss eyed all round nasty piece of work, whether there's smoke or not.

Just ask his brother.

Anyone who has seen the pictures of his girlfriend after the alleged attack will expect a jail sentence if found guilty.

She was black and blue.

Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑

Sat Apr 24, 2021 10:04 am

Anyone who has seen the pictures of his girlfriend after the alleged attack will expect a jail sentence if found guilty.

She was black and blue.

OJ Simpson, money doesn’t talk it screams.

Jakubclaret wrote: ↑

Sat Apr 24, 2021 9:51 am

Without a shadow, that’s exactly what will happen, it’s very unlikely that a custodial sentence will be the verdict, in any event he would be well & truly isolated away from the fellow inmates with his own cell furnished with a widescreen smart TV & a PlayStation 4.

And he'll be allowed to go home for weekends.

TheFamilyCat wrote: ↑

Sat Apr 24, 2021 11:25 am

And he'll be allowed to go home for weekends.

Why would he want to go home for weekends if he had a widescreen smart tv in his cell?

An absolutely brilliant player but a complete tosspot.

Rileybobs wrote: ↑

Sat Apr 24, 2021 11:49 am

Why would he want to go home for weekends if he had a widescreen smart tv in his cell?

No women to slap in prison.

If found guilty and sentenced he should be made to serve his time at Walton

Top Claret wrote: ↑

Sat Apr 24, 2021 12:30 pm

If found guilty and sentenced he should be made to serve his time at Walton

I would pay good money to watch that.

Funkydrummer wrote: ↑

Sat Apr 24, 2021 12:40 pm

I would pay good money to watch that.

Would take reality TV to a whole new level.

The court has been told today he head butted his missus and threw her out their hotel room whilst she was naked...

He’s a complete headcase by the sounds of things.

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote: ↑

Fri Jul 23, 2021 3:47 pm

The court has been told today he head butted his missus and threw her out their hotel room whilst she was naked...

I had a neighbour, about 25 years ago, who threw his wife out on to the street without a stitch on It turned out to be a bit of alcohol fuelled bravado.

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote: ↑

Fri Jul 23, 2021 3:47 pm

The court has been told today he head butted his missus and threw her out their hotel room whilst she was naked...

There could've been mitigating circumstances.