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Re: Linked with..

Posted: Sun May 02, 2021 2:01 pm
by Quickenthetempo
It would be a surprise if we don't sign players as the main reason the owners wanted a premier league club, was to show off their sscouting system to the football world.

Re: Linked with..

Posted: Sun May 02, 2021 2:20 pm
by huw.Y.WattfromWare
In Harry Wilsons time at B’mouth he never looked near what L’pool wanted for him.

Re: Linked with..

Posted: Sun May 02, 2021 2:24 pm
by jojomk1
It was quite heavily reported (in press and on this message board) that we were very interested in Wilson but a couple of £million was the difference between our valuation and that of Liverpool so the deal didn't go through
Not sure about this weekend's games but game before last he couldn't even get in the starting 11 for Cardiff and was on bench
Dodged a bullet with the guy
Which continues to raise my concerns about the ability of our recruitment team to even identify potential young talent, never mind have any money to get deals over the line

Re: Linked with..

Posted: Sun May 02, 2021 2:46 pm
by Hedontplayforyou
He scored a hat trick yesterday for Cardiff which is why he was brought to my attention again. I’d say he would be a very similar player to Brady for us, albeit slightly more fit. He need a permanent home which is often the difference for many players who are going on loan hither and yon on the regular.

Re: Linked with..

Posted: Sun May 02, 2021 3:57 pm
by Newcastleclaret93
jojomk1 wrote:
Sun May 02, 2021 2:24 pm
It was quite heavily reported (in press and on this message board) that we were very interested in Wilson but a couple of £million was the difference between our valuation and that of Liverpool so the deal didn't go through
Not sure about this weekend's games but game before last he couldn't even get in the starting 11 for Cardiff and was on bench
Dodged a bullet with the guy
Which continues to raise my concerns about the ability of our recruitment team to even identify potential young talent, never mind have any money to get deals over the line
He’s got 7 goals and 11 assists in 36 games this season.

Not really sure who you think we will be able to afford that’s gonna have better stats than that.

Re: Linked with..

Posted: Sun May 02, 2021 4:31 pm
by Quickenthetempo
Cardiff are paying his full 60/70k wages that he gets at Liverpool.

Not sure I want us paying him similar.

Re: Linked with..

Posted: Sun May 02, 2021 4:34 pm
by Vegas Claret
I wouldn't pay more than 5 million for Wilson, he's a risk at that

Re: Linked with..

Posted: Sun May 02, 2021 4:36 pm
by Hedontplayforyou
Quickenthetempo wrote:
Sun May 02, 2021 4:31 pm
Cardiff are paying his full 60/70k wages that he gets at Liverpool.

Not sure I want us paying him similar.
Is he really on that sort of money? Wowzers

Re: Linked with..

Posted: Sun May 02, 2021 5:12 pm
by Quickenthetempo
Hedontplayforyou wrote:
Sun May 02, 2021 4:36 pm
Is he really on that sort of money? Wowzers
Big money to attract and keep the best young players in the premier league.

Chelsea were paying 40k a week for youngsters when we signed Chalaboh(sp).

The more they're on the more you can charge loan fees I guess.

Re: Linked with..

Posted: Sun May 02, 2021 5:52 pm
by IanMcL
Sergio Kun Aguerro to Burnley.
(Report from MacNews)

There we are. Now we are linked, perhaps we can sign him. Europe for us then. :D

Re: Linked with..

Posted: Sun May 02, 2021 7:34 pm
by Newcastleclaret93
Vegas Claret wrote:
Sun May 02, 2021 4:34 pm
I wouldn't pay more than 5 million for Wilson, he's a risk at that
Based on what? He’s got a good record, who do you realistically think we will be targeting?

Re: Linked with..

Posted: Sun May 02, 2021 8:11 pm
by KRBFC
huw.Y.WattfromWare wrote:
Sun May 02, 2021 2:20 pm
In Harry Wilsons time at B’mouth he never looked near what L’pool wanted for him.
double figures in the PL from right midfield isn't to be sniffed at imo

Re: Linked with..

Posted: Sun May 02, 2021 8:14 pm
by randomclaret2
KRBFC wrote:
Sun May 02, 2021 8:11 pm
double figures in the PL from right midfield isn't to be sniffed at imo
If only he had reached double figures

Re: Linked with..

Posted: Sun May 02, 2021 8:28 pm
by boyyanno
Given our complete lack in depth and quality out wide I'm amazed some people wouldn't have Andros Townsend on a free. He's played 30 plus games in 4 of his last 5 years, compared to Brady who hasn't managed 20 games in a single season in his last 5 years.

I'd probably want a new Right winger anyway but surely he would be a good squad addition.

Re: Linked with..

Posted: Sun May 02, 2021 8:33 pm
by Newcastleclaret93
randomclaret2 wrote:
Sun May 02, 2021 8:14 pm
If only he had reached double figures
Harry Wilson in premier league for Bournemouth last season - 7 goals

Gudmundsson, McNeil, Westwood, Brownhill, Cork, Brady, for Burnley this season - 7 goals

Not sure how anyone can turn there nose up at Wilson. Would definitely improve the quality of our squad.
He would add much needed goals from midfield.

Re: Linked with..

Posted: Sun May 02, 2021 8:37 pm
by ayrshireclaret83
boyyanno wrote:
Sun May 02, 2021 8:28 pm
Given our complete lack in depth and quality out wide I'm amazed some people wouldn't have Andros Townsend on a free. He's played 30 plus games in 4 of his last 5 years, compared to Brady who hasn't managed 20 games in a single season in his last 5 years.

I'd probably want a new Right winger anyway but surely he would be a good squad addition.

Couldn’t wait to get back to London can’t see him heading north

Re: Linked with..

Posted: Sun May 02, 2021 8:39 pm
by Burnley Ace
Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sun May 02, 2021 8:33 pm
Harry Wilson in premier league for Bournemouth last season - 7 goals

Gudmundsson, McNeil, Westwood, Brownhill, Cork, Brady, for Burnley this season - 7 goals

Not sure how anyone can turn there nose up at Wilson. Would definitely improve the quality of our squad.
He would add much needed goals from midfield.
How many were penalties or free kicks? Seem to remember his number of assists and crosses was very low.

Re: Linked with..

Posted: Sun May 02, 2021 8:43 pm
by NewClaret
Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sun May 02, 2021 8:33 pm
Harry Wilson in premier league for Bournemouth last season - 7 goals

Gudmundsson, McNeil, Westwood, Brownhill, Cork, Brady, for Burnley this season - 7 goals

Not sure how anyone can turn there nose up at Wilson. Would definitely improve the quality of our squad.
He would add much needed goals from midfield.
Totally agree. Hasn’t torn the Championship up this season but certainly has something and we’d have a FK specialist too. Quick and certainly knows where the goal is.

That said, not sure he is worth the rumoured £16m that Liverpool wanted last year or that he’d fit in with our hard-working style. Might be being unfair but seems to love himself a bit to me.

Disappointed if Andersen is snapped up. He’d be a great signing for us.

Re: Linked with..

Posted: Sun May 02, 2021 8:51 pm
by ayrshireclaret83
Burnley Ace wrote:
Sun May 02, 2021 8:39 pm
How many were penalties or free kicks? Seem to remember his number of assists and crosses was very low.
But other sides dont put as many crosses in as us

Re: Linked with..

Posted: Sun May 02, 2021 9:29 pm
by kentonclaret
NewClaret wrote:
Sun May 02, 2021 8:43 pm

Disappointed if Andersen is snapped up. He’d be a great signing for us.

Andersen has hardly gone under the radar has he?

Arsenal and West Ham have already been linked with the Danish international.

Can't see him leaving London for Burnley anytime soon. :cry:

Re: Linked with..

Posted: Sun May 02, 2021 9:32 pm
by gandhisflipflop
kentonclaret wrote:
Sun May 02, 2021 9:29 pm
Andersen has hardly gone under the radar has he?

Arsenal and West Ham have already been linked with the Danish international.

Can't see him leaving London for Burnley anytime soon. :cry:
Didn’t realise it was a requirement to live in the town.

Re: Linked with..

Posted: Sun May 02, 2021 9:43 pm
by kentonclaret
gandhisflipflop wrote:
Sun May 02, 2021 9:32 pm
Didn’t realise it was a requirement to live in the town.
No requirement to live in the town just the need for a very large transfer fee of £25m+ to Lyon and wages to match. :lol:

Re: Linked with..

Posted: Sun May 02, 2021 9:57 pm
by COBBLE
Anderson would be moving to Cheshire, a few miles from Manc airport if he signed. What's not to like? On the other hand I love Padiham. He could stop in bed a bit longer.

Re: Linked with..

Posted: Mon May 03, 2021 6:05 am
by superdimitri
boyyanno wrote:
Sun May 02, 2021 8:28 pm
Given our complete lack in depth and quality out wide I'm amazed some people wouldn't have Andros Townsend on a free. He's played 30 plus games in 4 of his last 5 years, compared to Brady who hasn't managed 20 games in a single season in his last 5 years.

I'd probably want a new Right winger anyway but surely he would be a good squad addition.
I'd be happy if we get numbers in. Not concerned so much about quality. We need squad depth before we start thinking of improvements. That is unless someone thinks we can fill 4 remaining squad registration spots (5 when Tarkowski goes) all with people who improve our starting 11.

Re: Linked with..

Posted: Mon May 03, 2021 7:09 am
by ClaretMov
"I'd be happy if we get numbers in. Not concerned so much about quality".........Jesus christ I'll stop reading the rest, I know let's fill the team with Dale Stephen's, championship here we come.

Re: Linked with..

Posted: Mon May 03, 2021 7:49 am
by jojomk1
NewClaret wrote:
Sun May 02, 2021 8:43 pm
Disappointed if Andersen is snapped up. He’d be a great signing for us.
He won't be "snapped" up by anyone

Lyon paid around £25m for him summer before last and they will be looking to make a profit on him

Re: Linked with..

Posted: Mon May 03, 2021 8:50 am
by kentonclaret
On the January Transfer Window Discussion thread I put up Siriki Dembele as a player to keep an eye on in League 1, and see from the BBC gossip page today that the player is attracting some interest albeit from Crystal Palace, Celtic and Rangers.

Re: Linked with..

Posted: Mon May 03, 2021 9:20 am
by NewClaret
jojomk1 wrote:
Mon May 03, 2021 7:49 am
He won't be "snapped" up by anyone

Lyon paid around £25m for him summer before last and they will be looking to make a profit on him
How come they let such an expensive player go out on loan? Seems odd that such a quality/expensive player would not be in their first team plans?

Re: Linked with..

Posted: Mon May 03, 2021 9:28 am
by aggi
Conroy92 wrote:
Fri Apr 30, 2021 10:42 pm
.... I still believe had Garlick signed one or two players and kept 40-50m at bank rather than 70-80m we'd be in a different position and people would be looking at him in a different light.
Realistically there was about £40-50m in the bank. About £30m of that cash balance was related to future TV money and it was showing because we'd shifted our accounting year compared to normal.

Re: Linked with..

Posted: Mon May 03, 2021 10:00 am
by MACCA
NewClaret wrote:
Mon May 03, 2021 9:20 am
How come they let such an expensive player go out on loan? Seems odd that such a quality/expensive player would not be in their first team plans?
It was reported the fee was €24, and he signed a 5 year deal.
He played 32 games season last season, but has been sent out on loan this, who knows whether that was to put him in the window, or he wasn't fancied, or simply for some experience and more game time.

I'm sure Fulham will be paying a hefty fee and his wages, however if you could swap him for Tarky without indirectly costing anything I think itd be outstanding business, and theres no reason we couldn't.

Re: Linked with..

Posted: Mon May 03, 2021 10:26 am
by NewClaret
MACCA wrote:
Mon May 03, 2021 10:00 am
It was reported the fee was €24, and he signed a 5 year deal.
He played 32 games season last season, but has been sent out on loan this, who knows whether that was to put him in the window, or he wasn't fancied, or simply for some experience and more game time.

I'm sure Fulham will be paying a hefty fee and his wages, however if you could swap him for Tarky without indirectly costing anything I think itd be outstanding business, and theres no reason we couldn't.
Thanks MACCA. Knew he’d cost Lyon a few quid but thought it was less than £25m in the earlier post. Most likely a combination of factors - shop window, some of the transfer fee recovered and lower running costs for the season.

Would love us to move swiftly for talent like this. But if WHU or Arsenal are really interested (and personally think many clubs will be far more financially hindered than the press would have you believe at the moment), we’ll need to get back to looking through Stokes squad list for recruits!

Re: Linked with..

Posted: Tue May 04, 2021 10:28 am
by FeedTheArf
Linked with Ryan Christie again this morning. Bizarrely he’s out of contract in January so could sign a pre-contract with us this summer or look to tie it up in the summer for a reduced fee. Norwich also linked.

Re: Linked with..

Posted: Tue May 04, 2021 10:35 am
by jojomk1
FeedTheArf wrote:
Tue May 04, 2021 10:28 am
Linked with Ryan Christie again this morning. Bizarrely he’s out of contract in January so could sign a pre-contract with us this summer or look to tie it up in the summer for a reduced fee. Norwich also linked.
Not a regular at Celtic - was on bench v Rangers

Re: Linked with..

Posted: Tue May 04, 2021 10:39 am
by MACCA
jojomk1 wrote:
Tue May 04, 2021 10:35 am
Not a regular at Celtic - was on bench v Rangers
That's one plus, however is he any of the following, ageing, slow, injury prone or no others want him?
If so we could well be interested, and possibly land him.

Re: Linked with..

Posted: Tue May 04, 2021 11:32 am
by Quickenthetempo
The talk is of Celtic having a clear out this summer as their players aren't good enough.

Why would we be after a player that can't get in their side regular?

Re: Linked with..

Posted: Tue May 04, 2021 11:37 am
by ElectroClaret
Quickenthetempo wrote:
Tue May 04, 2021 11:32 am

Why would we be after a player that can't get in their side regular?
Cos he might be cheap?
Seems to be our only criteria most of the time. :?

Re: Linked with..

Posted: Tue May 04, 2021 11:55 am
by claretonthecoast1882
Quickenthetempo wrote:
Tue May 04, 2021 11:32 am
The talk is of Celtic having a clear out this summer as their players aren't good enough.

Why would we be after a player that can't get in their side regular?

They have played 36 league games this season, he has played in 32 of them

Re: Linked with..

Posted: Tue May 04, 2021 12:20 pm
by Quickenthetempo
claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Tue May 04, 2021 11:55 am
They have played 36 league games this season, he has played in 32 of them
I only went off what others had said on here. Yes I know I should check, but i'm not really interested in Celtic enough to do it.

Re: Linked with..

Posted: Wed May 05, 2021 3:23 pm
by Jakubs Tash
Linked with Rob Dickie at QPR.

**Twitter

Re: Linked with..

Posted: Wed May 05, 2021 3:24 pm
by Jakubs Tash
Linked with Piotr Zielinkski at Napoli (looks very decent).

**Twitter

Re: Linked with..

Posted: Wed May 05, 2021 3:30 pm
by Somethingfishy
Jakubs Tash wrote:
Wed May 05, 2021 3:23 pm
Linked with Rob Dickie at QPR.

**Twitter
We were linked with him when he was at Oxford. Not long been at QPR I don't think.

Re: Linked with..

Posted: Wed May 05, 2021 5:38 pm
by Hedontplayforyou
Jakubs Tash wrote:
Wed May 05, 2021 3:24 pm
Linked with Piotr Zielinkski at Napoli (looks very decent).

**Twitter
Not sure that’s the most reliable of links, I looked around it earlier

Re: Linked with..

Posted: Wed May 05, 2021 5:45 pm
by Jakubs Tash
Hedontplayforyou wrote:
Wed May 05, 2021 5:38 pm
Not sure that’s the most reliable of links, I looked around it earlier
I would tend to agree.....but the thread is called ‘Linked with’ so thought I would give it a bash.

Re: Linked with..

Posted: Wed May 05, 2021 6:39 pm
by jtv
Jakubs Tash wrote:
Wed May 05, 2021 5:45 pm
I would tend to agree.....but the thread is called ‘Linked with’ so thought I would give it a bash.
He is a regular at Napoli I believe and they are aiming for a CL spot again, so highly unlikely I think

Re: Linked with..

Posted: Wed May 05, 2021 6:44 pm
by NewClaret
Transfermarkt lists his value at £41m :shock:

Re: Linked with..

Posted: Wed May 05, 2021 7:02 pm
by BigChaCha
Why would we be after a player that can't get in their side regular?
SD has a proven track record of turning those exact same players into very useful players. Some of his best signings were all struggling at their previous clubs!

Re: Linked with..

Posted: Wed May 05, 2021 7:19 pm
by randomclaret2
Lyndon Dykes ( QPR )

Re: Linked with..

Posted: Wed May 05, 2021 7:33 pm
by huw.Y.WattfromWare
BigChaCha wrote:
Wed May 05, 2021 7:02 pm
SD has a proven track record of turning those exact same players into very useful players. Some of his best signings were all struggling at their previous clubs!
Spot on. Lowton and Westwood both appeared to be going backwards at Villa. Established PL players now.
Lowton.
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Re: Linked with..

Posted: Wed May 05, 2021 11:12 pm
by KRBFC
Jakubs Tash wrote:
Wed May 05, 2021 3:24 pm
Linked with Piotr Zielinkski at Napoli (looks very decent).

**Twitter
There's absolutely no way we'll be signing Napoli's 2nd best midfielder.

Re: Linked with..

Posted: Wed May 05, 2021 11:51 pm
by NewClaret
KRBFC wrote:
Wed May 05, 2021 11:12 pm
There's absolutely no way we'll be signing Napoli's 2nd best midfielder.
Would be a push to imagine signing Stoke City’s second best midfielder given our recent transfer business :lol: