Paul Pogba salary demands

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Re: Paul Pogba salary demands

Post by JohnMac » Mon May 03, 2021 6:45 pm

Bruno should be monitoring his demands very closely and then asking for that plus 70% to reflect the difference in contribution to the team.

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Re: Paul Pogba salary demands

Post by gandhisflipflop » Mon May 03, 2021 6:46 pm

CFS how can we take you seriously when you use the word lool?

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Re: Paul Pogba salary demands

Post by BenWickes » Mon May 03, 2021 6:55 pm

CFS wrote:
Mon May 03, 2021 6:37 pm
And there's Burnley fans thinking McNeil,pope and tarkowski are good enough for top 6 teams loool.
I'd rather have a 100% committed Westwood. Hell! I'd rather have Dale Stephens in my midfield starting XI than Pogba trying to decide if he can be arsed that day.
90% of the time he can't be arsed and it shows. On his day he is half decent. Most of the time I think my Grandma could give him a game and she's been dead since 1996!

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Re: Paul Pogba salary demands

Post by Devils_Advocate » Mon May 03, 2021 6:58 pm

You dont make a PFA team of the year if you can only be arsed 10% of the time

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Re: Paul Pogba salary demands

Post by BenWickes » Mon May 03, 2021 7:11 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote:
Mon May 03, 2021 6:58 pm
You dont make a PFA team of the year if you can only be arsed 10% of the time
He's made the PFA team of the year? Jesus! Raiola has been busy with brown envelopes!

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Re: Paul Pogba salary demands

Post by CFS » Mon May 03, 2021 7:14 pm

gandhisflipflop wrote:
Mon May 03, 2021 6:46 pm
CFS how can we take you seriously when you use the word lool?
Don't really care what you take me as mate

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Re: Paul Pogba salary demands

Post by CFS » Mon May 03, 2021 7:16 pm

BenWickes wrote:
Mon May 03, 2021 6:55 pm
I'd rather have a 100% committed Westwood. Hell! I'd rather have Dale Stephens in my midfield starting XI than Pogba trying to decide if he can be arsed that day.
90% of the time he can't be arsed and it shows. On his day he is half decent. Most of the time I think my Grandma could give him a game and she's been dead since 1996!
Ok

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Re: Paul Pogba salary demands

Post by tiger76 » Mon May 03, 2021 7:16 pm

JohnMac wrote:
Mon May 03, 2021 6:45 pm
Bruno should be monitoring his demands very closely and then asking for that plus 70% to reflect the difference in contribution to the team.
Precisely! and this is the dilemma we face at Burnley, it's fine folks saying give Tarks an improved deal, but if he gets an improved deal, you can bet your bottom dollar other senior squad members will then expect a similar increase in their salaries. And this is what leads to clubs quickly getting into financial difficulties.
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Re: Paul Pogba salary demands

Post by CFS » Mon May 03, 2021 7:23 pm

tiger76 wrote:
Mon May 03, 2021 7:16 pm
Precisely! and this is the dilemma we face at Burnley, it's fine folks saying give Tarks an improved deal, but if he gets an improved deal, you can bet your bottom dollar other senior squad members will then expect a similar increase in their salaries. And this is what leads to clubs quickly getting into financial difficulties.
United don't face financial difficulties.

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Re: Paul Pogba salary demands

Post by tiger76 » Mon May 03, 2021 7:33 pm

CFS wrote:
Mon May 03, 2021 7:23 pm
United don't face financial difficulties.
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No I know they don't but we might, especially in the event of relegation, hence why we have to box clever and not overstretch ourselves..

And if a club such as United are offering PP 500k a week, that will have an impact on the rest of the marketplace like it or not.
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Re: Paul Pogba salary demands

Post by Taffy on the wing » Mon May 03, 2021 8:52 pm

CFS wrote:
Mon May 03, 2021 6:32 pm
So your jealous of how he looks not what he earns lool
EEEEEEEddddiiiiiiiioooooooottttttt!

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Re: Paul Pogba salary demands

Post by bf2k » Mon May 03, 2021 9:12 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Mon May 03, 2021 3:06 pm
Tbh Tiger, I think the bigger issue is anyone signing one of Riola’s clients. I wouldn’t go near Pogba, Haarland, etc. however talented they are.
This is what is wrong with football right here.

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Re: Paul Pogba salary demands

Post by Paul Waine » Mon May 03, 2021 11:06 pm

tiger76 wrote:
Mon May 03, 2021 3:01 pm
Apologies if this has already been mentioned elsewhere I've not been posting much the past few days, but if rumours are to be believed Paul Pogba and particularly his agent are demanding his basic wage to sign a new deal is upped to 500k a week, and once you take his image rights into account he could be earning 800k a week, exactly what planet do these people live on with these crazy demands, and more pertinently where do they imagine the club will find the money from to sustain these mad outgoings.

I understand the players aren't happy about the prospect of a ESL, but if they expect to continue to earn mega bucks then the cash has to be sourced from somewhere doesn't it, Pogba's has had a decent season, but he's not worth that obscene amount not in my view, and if United cave in too his demands my fear is this will inflate the wages for every other team, which could have a knock on effect right throughout the pyramid.

I genuinely thought that the fall out from the failed ESL project would inject sanity back into the game, but sadly this doesn't appear to be the case, and you do have to wonder exactly what will cause a reality check in football, because at this rate it won't be long before we see the first £1m a week footballer.
Hi tiger76, where did you get these figures from? Times (either Sunday or today) reported that Pogba (and his agent) is looking for £400k per week, and as the media rarely make a distinction, that £400k will include his image rights. There are HMRC "rules" on image rights, they can only be a relatively small percentage of the total compensation. I think it's currently 15% - though there are also reports that HMRC want image rights "evidenced and justified" by the player and the club, because "image rights" allows both the player and the club to cut their tax obligations.

Agree with you about wages and ESL and the inconsistency of fans being against the ESL but wanted their club to sign the biggest stars and pay the top wages to get them. Of course, Real Madrid and the worst example.

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Re: Paul Pogba salary demands

Post by tiger76 » Tue May 04, 2021 1:40 pm

Paul Waine wrote:
Mon May 03, 2021 11:06 pm
Hi tiger76, where did you get these figures from? Times (either Sunday or today) reported that Pogba (and his agent) is looking for £400k per week, and as the media rarely make a distinction, that £400k will include his image rights. There are HMRC "rules" on image rights, they can only be a relatively small percentage of the total compensation. I think it's currently 15% - though there are also reports that HMRC want image rights "evidenced and justified" by the player and the club, because "image rights" allows both the player and the club to cut their tax obligations.

Agree with you about wages and ESL and the inconsistency of fans being against the ESL but wanted their club to sign the biggest stars and pay the top wages to get them. Of course, Real Madrid and the worst example.
Hi Paul, The 500k figure comes from a report in the Express a couple of weeks ago, now how accurate their sources are I don't know, link here if you want clarification https://www.express.co.uk/sport/footbal ... r-options

And these transfer rumours do seem to be coming from Raiola strangely enough, now again whether he's acting in the interest of his client, or for his own ends is questionable given his history, of course he could simply be using this as a negotiating tactic to exert a better deal from Man Utd, and that' tactic isn't unusual when a player is coming towards the final year of their current deals.

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Re: Paul Pogba salary demands

Post by Paul Waine » Tue May 04, 2021 3:21 pm

tiger76 wrote:
Tue May 04, 2021 1:40 pm
Hi Paul, The 500k figure comes from a report in the Express a couple of weeks ago, now how accurate their sources are I don't know, link here if you want clarification https://www.express.co.uk/sport/footbal ... r-options

And these transfer rumours do seem to be coming from Raiola strangely enough, now again whether he's acting in the interest of his client, or for his own ends is questionable given his history, of course he could simply be using this as a negotiating tactic to exert a better deal from Man Utd, and that' tactic isn't unusual when a player is coming towards the final year of their current deals.
Thanks.

I can't find the report I saw. I've found a different one, in the Times last Saturday, where Raiola is reported as proposing that Pogba moves to Real Madrid and Eden Hazard moves to Man Utd. It may be that he's already been told RM don't have the money to buy Pogba...

Also, in search, I came across an article Jan 2020 that said HMRC guidance was 20% - rather than the 15% that I posted. Again, more recently, I've seen another report that said HMRC were "looking again" at image rights, too much tax being avoided. In the Jan'20 article it said that foreign footballers can split their UK and non-UK image rights. So, maybe Pogba is able to earn some image rights offshore. This would be outside any HMRC limits.

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Re: Paul Pogba salary demands

Post by vancouverclaret » Tue May 04, 2021 4:31 pm

I remember getting an envelope with 3 pounds in it for my first game in North west counties league and I didn't really want it, I just loved playing.
500,000 a week, it's like winning the lotto every week. It's insane really.

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Re: Paul Pogba salary demands

Post by aggi » Tue May 04, 2021 4:38 pm

No-one is forcing the clubs to pay him that much. If they pay it it's because they think he's worth it. If he isn't then they won't.

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Re: Paul Pogba salary demands

Post by aggi » Tue May 04, 2021 4:45 pm

claret2018 wrote:
Mon May 03, 2021 5:55 pm
Are image rights still a thing? I thought they’d been shot down year ago
Still very much a thing, but you need to be much more rigorous in how the values were arrived at. For a club like Man Utd and a player like Pogba image rights could be valued at a significant amount, if it's a journeyman at Accy Stanley then maybe not.

Guidance here for anyone who enjoys reading HMRC manuals https://www.gov.uk/hmrc-internal-manual ... l/eim00738

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Re: Paul Pogba salary demands

Post by tiger76 » Tue May 04, 2021 4:49 pm

aggi wrote:
Tue May 04, 2021 4:38 pm
No-one is forcing the clubs to pay him that much. If they pay it it's because they think he's worth it. If he isn't then they won't.
Yes that's true of course, however the problem is if the big guns like KDB and PP get huge salaries it means that a lot of average players also earn big bucks, just look at some of the Chelsea and Liverpool players in recent years who've never even played a PL game, and yet are raking in a fortune.

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Re: Paul Pogba salary demands

Post by aggi » Tue May 04, 2021 5:46 pm

tiger76 wrote:
Tue May 04, 2021 4:49 pm
Yes that's true of course, however the problem is if the big guns like KDB and PP get huge salaries it means that a lot of average players also earn big bucks, just look at some of the Chelsea and Liverpool players in recent years who've never even played a PL game, and yet are raking in a fortune.
True, but I'd say that's the fault of the clubs rather than the players.

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Re: Paul Pogba salary demands

Post by tiger76 » Tue May 04, 2021 5:58 pm

aggi wrote:
Tue May 04, 2021 5:46 pm
True, but I'd say that's the fault of the clubs rather than the players.
Yes but then if clubs don't invest in players fans moan about lack of ambition, we even see it on this board regarding BFC and our lack of activity in the market, and it's a catch 22 for many clubs because if they take a moral stance and refuse to play joe bloggs his 150k a week for example, then some other club will happily fork out that amount for the said player, and then the former club could potentially miss out on winning a title, or qualifying for Europe, or even worse be relegated, and this is the balancing act facing many clubs Burnley included.
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Re: Paul Pogba salary demands

Post by Jakubclaret » Tue May 04, 2021 6:17 pm

The man deserves a basic level wage commensurate on a equal parity with the rest of the team nothing more nothing less, all wages should be capped anyway across the board across the leagues with a minimum & a maximum set at no more than 100k a week & no less than 10k for first team professionals, if players aren’t happy they need to be shown around the streets & homeless shelters & people who are poverty stricken surviving on next to nothing. If refusal & reluctance ensues the clubs should unite together & cast any unhappy players into the wilderness, all the savings should go towards the supporters/fans to make the attending/viewing cheaper.

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Re: Paul Pogba salary demands

Post by Claret Toni » Tue May 04, 2021 7:35 pm

Didn't we get rid of the maximum wage years ago?

...and perhaps the savings could go to the club owners, now they've had the ESL opportunity denied them. ;)

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