If you can't win on the pitch try the courts.
Southend & Grimsby challenging relegation from league two.
Seems desperation to me, could set a precedent for the future if successful though.
Or is it the League two version of the ESL.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/57022942
If you can't win on the pitch
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holdyourfire
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Re: If you can't win on the pitch
I bet they both get relegated.
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Rowls
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Re: If you can't win on the pitch
Embarrassing.
It's like when we tried it on after the League Cup semi-final against Spurs and even more like when we tried it on in '87 saying that relegation to the Conference shouldn't apply to prestige clubs like ourselves.
It's pitiful stuff.
It's like when we tried it on after the League Cup semi-final against Spurs and even more like when we tried it on in '87 saying that relegation to the Conference shouldn't apply to prestige clubs like ourselves.
It's pitiful stuff.
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pompeyclaret
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Re: If you can't win on the pitch
So they're pushing for no promotion from national League, but then if there is no relegation from league 2 there shouldn't be any promotion..and on it goes.
Worse to complain now once you know the outcome and not at the time.
Worse to complain now once you know the outcome and not at the time.
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aclaretinstevenage
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Re: If you can't win on the pitch
I have some sympathy for the fans who may cling on to this faintest of hope as Stevenage were in this mess last season until the full extent of Macclesfield's ownership wrongdoings became fully known BUT without that Stevenage would have had to take their place in the National League even though they curtailed their season save for the Play offs.
I can't see the EFL accepting this and feel certain the courts will dismiss the claims.
I can't see the EFL accepting this and feel certain the courts will dismiss the claims.
Re: If you can't win on the pitch
It's not going to the courts yet, just the EFL.
All these leagues have had a difficult task with Covid and Government rules/guidelines. You can also understand Dover's position in not wanting to put the club further in debt in order to continue playing football - the grants vs loans business.
Somewhere relegation has to stop because there can be no promotion if you don't play, which is the case for step 2 and below. Step 3 were no allowed to play by the government. Step 2 didn't want to play because of finances - no crowds no money.
It would be interesting to know exactly what these club's proposals to the EFL are. The ideas suggested in the article, that no National League clubs can be promoted or having two additional clubs in League 2 with four being relegated next year, so leaving the National League two short, seems a bit silly.
We may not know anymore until the EFL meeting of 'next week' or the EFL AGM of June 10th.
All these leagues have had a difficult task with Covid and Government rules/guidelines. You can also understand Dover's position in not wanting to put the club further in debt in order to continue playing football - the grants vs loans business.
Somewhere relegation has to stop because there can be no promotion if you don't play, which is the case for step 2 and below. Step 3 were no allowed to play by the government. Step 2 didn't want to play because of finances - no crowds no money.
It would be interesting to know exactly what these club's proposals to the EFL are. The ideas suggested in the article, that no National League clubs can be promoted or having two additional clubs in League 2 with four being relegated next year, so leaving the National League two short, seems a bit silly.
We may not know anymore until the EFL meeting of 'next week' or the EFL AGM of June 10th.
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AfloatinClaret
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Re: If you can't win on the pitch
I'm guessing that Cheltenham, Cambridge & Bolton won't be supporting their argument?
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Re: If you can't win on the pitch
Jeff spelling wasn’t impressed. Proper layed into them.
Re: If you can't win on the pitch
Southend chairman Ron Martin said it was "fundamentally against the pyramid system" to allow promotion from the National League but not relegation.
So he proposing in order to rectify the situation we have promotion from League Two but not relegation.
So he proposing in order to rectify the situation we have promotion from League Two but not relegation.
Re: If you can't win on the pitch
Of course, the same problem arises every year.
There is no relegation from the NW Counties 2nd division, but there is promotion.
This isn't fair on the NW Counties 1st division, so there can be no relegation from there either.
This isn't fair on the NPL 2nd division (level 8) so there can be no promotion from there
This isn't fair ...
Ad infinitum. Or at least, until we reach the Premier League, where there can be no relegation because of what happens at level 10.
Are the clubs proposing that the Premier League increases by three clubs every year until all clubs are in the PL, or are they proposing that there should never be promotion or relegation ever again?
Or are they, as Rowls suggests, just making pathetic, desperate efforts to evade tghe results of their own incompetence like we did in 1987?
There is no relegation from the NW Counties 2nd division, but there is promotion.
This isn't fair on the NW Counties 1st division, so there can be no relegation from there either.
This isn't fair on the NPL 2nd division (level 8) so there can be no promotion from there
This isn't fair ...
Ad infinitum. Or at least, until we reach the Premier League, where there can be no relegation because of what happens at level 10.
Are the clubs proposing that the Premier League increases by three clubs every year until all clubs are in the PL, or are they proposing that there should never be promotion or relegation ever again?
Or are they, as Rowls suggests, just making pathetic, desperate efforts to evade tghe results of their own incompetence like we did in 1987?