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Post by bodge » Sun May 09, 2021 10:39 pm

Will Vaulks at Cardiff would bring something different, excellent long range shooting and dare I say it a long throw which would really wind up the rest of the prem.

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Post by superdimitri » Mon May 10, 2021 6:45 am

bodge wrote:
Sun May 09, 2021 10:39 pm
Will Vaulks at Cardiff would bring something different, excellent long range shooting and dare I say it a long throw which would really wind up the rest of the prem.
We're so crap at throws a long throw specialist wouldn't go amiss. Especially when we rely so much already on winning second balls from set pieces.

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Post by Commy » Mon May 10, 2021 10:50 am

Ryan Nyambe looks a decent player. Isn't he the one Rovers fans were raving about.?

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Post by Hedontplayforyou » Mon May 10, 2021 11:22 am

How reliable is this website?

It shows our neighbours having the following out of contract - Nyambe
Rothwell
Evans
Holtby
Downing
Johnson
Costello
Bennett

Quite a few there. With Armstrong being on the radar of Premier league clubs , Elliot returning to Liverpool, Harwood-Bellis back to City. Is Branthwaite still there? If so back to Everton. That’s a lot - can’t remember if Trybull was signed permanently from Norwich either. Re-build on at deadwood?

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Post by FeedTheArf » Mon May 10, 2021 12:01 pm

jojomk1 wrote:
Mon May 10, 2021 9:25 am
Championship "freebie" anyone ?
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/champio ... bewerb/GB2
It won't do anything for the average age of the squad, but as an experienced backup Steve Cook on a free would be a solid signing, alongside a Nathan Collins type, younger with potential signing.

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Post by jojomk1 » Mon May 10, 2021 3:05 pm

FeedTheArf wrote:
Mon May 10, 2021 12:01 pm
It won't do anything for the average age of the squad, but as an experienced backup Steve Cook on a free would be a solid signing, alongside a Nathan Collins type, younger with potential signing.
If Tarks were to go I would be slightly worried if either started the season

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Post by ClaretAL » Fri May 28, 2021 7:58 am

I really cant see this being right...

https://www.footballinsider247.com/crys ... y-sources/

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Post by ClaretAL » Fri May 28, 2021 8:01 am

The Villa McNeil story still doing the rounds

https://sportslens.com/aston-villa-keen ... ow/359542/

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Fri May 28, 2021 9:14 am

Athletic now reporting Villas interest in McNeil.

Be a massive loss if he goes

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Post by Woodleyclaret » Fri May 28, 2021 9:22 am

I'd like Pierera from West Brom a good eye for goals and a great passer.

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Post by Targetman » Fri May 28, 2021 9:24 am

ClaretAL wrote:
Fri May 28, 2021 8:01 am
The Villa McNeil story still doing the rounds

https://sportslens.com/aston-villa-keen ... ow/359542/
"Burnley keen on Aston Villa's Grealish"........is what I'm hearing from a trusted source! 🥱

Would be a massive loss for Villa if it happens.

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Fri May 28, 2021 9:30 am

Targetman wrote:
Fri May 28, 2021 9:24 am
"Burnley keen on Aston Villa's Grealish"........is what I'm hearing from a trusted source! 🥱

Would be a massive loss for Villa if it happens.
Some better links now. The athletic reporting Villa are chasing him

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Post by NewClaret » Fri May 28, 2021 9:44 am

This is a really bad start to the window! Dyche linked with Palace and now Dwight with Villa. It’s going to be a long summer.

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Post by Gordaleman » Fri May 28, 2021 10:07 am

NewClaret wrote:
Fri May 28, 2021 9:44 am
This is a really bad start to the window! Dyche linked with Palace and now Dwight with Villa. It’s going to be a long summer.
For goodness sake. Don't get your knickers in a twist. It's the silly season for the media, nothing else.

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Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Fri May 28, 2021 10:41 am

NewClaret wrote:
Fri May 28, 2021 9:44 am
This is a really bad start to the window! Dyche linked with Palace and now Dwight with Villa. It’s going to be a long summer.

The other option is to have a manager and players nobody else would be interested in, this also means being somewhere between the 2 divisions lower.

There is nothing anybody can do about gossip but you can certainly make a list of those who genuinely know things and listen to them rather than some of the "journalists" who have articles to peddle

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Fri May 28, 2021 10:42 am

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Fri May 28, 2021 10:41 am
The other option is to have a manager and players nobody else would be interested in, this also means being somewhere between the 2 divisions lower.

There is nothing anybody can do about gossip but you can certainly make a list of those who genuinely know things and listen to them rather than some of the "journalists" who have articles to peddle
I could see McNeil going to Villa, would suit them quite well if Grealish left.

I imagine it would take between 40-50m for us to sell though. Not sure Villa would want to spend that kind of money.

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Post by Jakubs Tash » Fri May 28, 2021 10:45 am

McNeil has 3 years left on his contract (plus an option of an additional year) so IF he leaves it'll be for a ridiculous amount of money. I'm very relaxed about that particular situation.

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Post by northernpowerhouse » Fri May 28, 2021 10:56 am

Burnley, Mallorca and Alaves interested in young Getafe right back Juan Iglesias for £6 million.

https://www.marca.com/futbol/getafe/202 ... b457b.html

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Post by Gordaleman » Fri May 28, 2021 11:04 am

northernpowerhouse wrote:
Fri May 28, 2021 10:56 am
Burnley, Mallorca and Alaves interested in young Getafe right back Juan Iglesias for £6 million.

https://www.marca.com/futbol/getafe/202 ... b457b.html
It's times like these that Google Translate, is very useful. :D

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Post by randomclaret2 » Fri May 28, 2021 11:20 am

Wonder if we'll begin the bidding for Iglesias ?
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Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Fri May 28, 2021 11:31 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Fri May 28, 2021 10:42 am
I could see McNeil going to Villa, would suit them quite well if Grealish left.

I imagine it would take between 40-50m for us to sell though. Not sure Villa would want to spend that kind of money.
You can see most good things at our club leaving that seems your default position.

Only on Sunday Mee is out with a groin issue and your first thought was could he be off.

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Post by Woodleyclaret » Fri May 28, 2021 7:58 pm

Weve a long throw specialist in Ryan Cooney the new Kieran Trippier

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Post by Elizabeth » Fri May 28, 2021 8:30 pm

Targetman wrote:
Fri May 28, 2021 9:24 am
"Burnley keen on Aston Villa's Grealish"........is what I'm hearing from a trusted source! 🥱
Once they know Burnley are in for him other sides will outbid us

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Post by claretandy » Sun May 30, 2021 7:13 am

Bergwijn available for a knockdown fee, still only 23, could play on the right or through the middle, plenty of pace.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football ... 1622308689

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Post by TheFamilyCat » Sun May 30, 2021 7:20 am

Gordaleman wrote:
Fri May 28, 2021 11:04 am
It's times like these that Google Translate, is very useful. :D
That lyric is in the original demo of the Foo Fighters' song.

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Post by superdimitri » Sun May 30, 2021 7:22 am

claretandy wrote:
Sun May 30, 2021 7:13 am
Bergwijn available for a knockdown fee, still only 23, could play on the right or through the middle, plenty of pace.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football ... 1622308689
Would be great but I don't think he'd want to come here compared to Ajax.

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Post by minnieclaret » Sun May 30, 2021 7:24 am

Sun on Sunday have us back in for Joe Worrall at £10m

BTW none of the links are opening for me. Is this a problem for anybody else?

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Post by dibraidio » Sun May 30, 2021 8:48 am

ClaretAL wrote:
Fri May 28, 2021 8:01 am
The Villa McNeil story still doing the rounds

https://sportslens.com/aston-villa-keen ... ow/359542/
One of the ways we can go to the next level financially is to sell our "assets" at the right time. Tarkowski and Pope are two who could have gone for 30m plus but Dyche didn't want to sell, in another season or two both could end up going for far less or nothing at all.
When Sean knows he has a player in the squad who can do a job he doesn't want to take the risk of changing them for another who might not cut it. He's more likely to keep them until they're no longer good enough or out of contract than to sell them and have to find a first team player.
With Brady leaving it's not a great time squad wise to have to replace Dwight but if there is big money on the table selling Dwight could finance several decent transfers.

It'll be interesting to see how this pans out because the new owners are keen on player trading as a source of revenue whereas Sean likes squad stability.

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Post by NewClaret » Sun May 30, 2021 9:05 am

dibraidio wrote:
Sun May 30, 2021 8:48 am
With Brady leaving it's not a great time squad wise to have to replace Dwight but if there is big money on the table selling Dwight could finance several decent transfers.

It'll be interesting to see how this pans out because the new owners are keen on player trading as a source of revenue whereas Sean likes squad stability.
How do you know that the new owners like trading as a source of revenue? They haven’t bought or sold anyone yet?

I think the problem short term is that the underinvestment in the squad leaves us far too short on numbers to be selling anyone. We need to buy this summer, plug the gaps well and give ourselves a foundation where a sale/loss of a key player wouldn’t be so harmful.

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Post by clarethomer » Sun May 30, 2021 9:45 am

Player trading is the way forward for us.

We have AI scout. We have the club partnership and a lot of money and effort getting us to cat1 academy status.

It’s quite clear to me that we see the development of players as a key part of our strategy recognising that we will never complete in the same league as more financially backed clubs.

Selling McNeil, whilst not something I would want to see, I agree that if you can get premium money for him and spend less on the replacement(s) or buy more players for squad depth then this is a model that allows us to grow.

It’s going to take a bit of time but once this approach gets momentum you can see how profit can be made from this approach

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Post by superdimitri » Sun May 30, 2021 9:56 am

I don't think it's actually worth selling unless a big bid comes in. We need to sell players to the rich clubs to make some real progress. A bit like Leicester have done with a few of their players.

As long as we're knocking about near the bottom of the league we aren't going to get big teams interested in our players which means the fees will probably always be low. 30m for Tarkowski when stoke want 20 for Collins?

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Post by gawthorpe_view » Sun May 30, 2021 10:04 am

minnieclaret wrote:
Sun May 30, 2021 7:24 am
Sun on Sunday have us back in for Joe Worrall at £10m

BTW none of the links are opening for me. Is this a problem for anybody else?
Links working for me.

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Post by NewClaret » Sun May 30, 2021 10:09 am

superdimitri wrote:
Sun May 30, 2021 9:56 am
I don't think it's actually worth selling unless a big bid comes in. We need to sell players to the rich clubs to make some real progress. A bit like Leicester have done with a few of their players.

As long as we're knocking about near the bottom of the league we aren't going to get big teams interested in our players which means the fees will probably always be low. 30m for Tarkowski when stoke want 20 for Collins?
That’s either other clubs significantly undervaluing our players or Stoke significantly overvaluing theirs!

I agree it’s a model we have used successfully in the past and will do moving forward. It’s high risk too though, since you are selling a proven player to buy unproven ones. Get it wrong and you’re down, when the vultures will circle for all your best players on the cheap.

My point is that, with our squad so depleted, this summer is not the one to start contemplating that approach. We need to build the squad back up to a point we are able to do that.

Another point is that Dwights value is unlikely to reduce at 21. If we put some other decent players around him this summer it might bring the best out of him & increase his value.

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Post by taio » Sun May 30, 2021 10:21 am

NewClaret wrote:
Sun May 30, 2021 10:09 am
That’s either other clubs significantly undervaluing our players or Stoke significantly overvaluing theirs!

I agree it’s a model we have used successfully in the past and will do moving forward. It’s high risk too though, since you are selling a proven player to buy unproven ones. Get it wrong and you’re down, when the vultures will circle for all your best players on the cheap.

My point is that, with our squad so depleted, this summer is not the one to start contemplating that approach. We need to build the squad back up to a point we are able to do that.

Another point is that Dwights value is unlikely to reduce at 21. If we put some other decent players around him this summer it might bring the best out of him & increase his value.
We don't have enough money to do that though.

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Post by NewClaret » Sun May 30, 2021 10:28 am

taio wrote:
Sun May 30, 2021 10:21 am
We don't have enough money to do that though.
How do you know that?

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Post by taio » Sun May 30, 2021 10:37 am

NewClaret wrote:
Sun May 30, 2021 10:28 am
How do you know that?
Because of how the acquisition was structured. We either sell to buy or add to the debt. That's the nature of the leveraged deal.

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Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Sun May 30, 2021 10:57 am

taio wrote:
Sun May 30, 2021 10:37 am
Because of how the acquisition was structured. We either sell to buy or add to the debt. That's the nature of the leveraged deal.
Unless of course there is more investment to come over the summer.

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Post by NewClaret » Sun May 30, 2021 11:07 am

taio wrote:
Sun May 30, 2021 10:37 am
Because of how the acquisition was structured. We either sell to buy or add to the debt. That's the nature of the leveraged deal.
Are you forgetting about the money in the bank?

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Post by Elizabeth » Sun May 30, 2021 11:15 am

Is that the money now in Garlick’s pocket or did he leave us a tip ?

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Post by Jakubclaret » Sun May 30, 2021 11:18 am

I don’t think much will get spent again unless some of our star players leave, I think the BG fee will be reinvested & odd loans might come in or a decent player from the championship & that’ll be it, mildly stable & underwhelming but enough to ensure SD can work his magic again for another season.

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Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Sun May 30, 2021 11:29 am

Jakubclaret wrote:
Sun May 30, 2021 11:18 am
I don’t think much will get spent again unless some of our star players leave, I think the BG fee will be reinvested & odd loans might come in or a decent player from the championship & that’ll be it, mildly stable & underwhelming but enough to ensure SD can work his magic again for another season.
We have no choice but to spend after past few dismal transfer windows. It’s coming up to 4 years since our last big signing.

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Post by Hipper » Sun May 30, 2021 11:31 am

Does Dyche get any bonus from 'added value'/transfer fees for a player?

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Post by Murger » Sun May 30, 2021 11:34 am

Worrall again? Dyche really lacks an imagination when it comes to transfers.

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Post by Jakubclaret » Sun May 30, 2021 11:36 am

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:
Sun May 30, 2021 11:29 am
We have no choice but to spend after past few dismal transfer windows. It’s coming up to 4 years since our last big signing.
I do think we’ll do something but no to the level some people are expecting, the total outlay won’t excess 20mil I don’t think I could be wrong.

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Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Sun May 30, 2021 11:57 am

Jakubclaret wrote:
Sun May 30, 2021 11:36 am
I do think we’ll do something but no to the level some people are expecting, the total outlay won’t excess 20mil I don’t think I could be wrong.
I hope you are wrong! Realistically we need 3 big signings (centre half, midfielder and right winger)and we aren’t going to get them all for 20 million. This is the result of the past few windows at some point it was always going to catch up with us. On the plus side with us being linked with players it sounds like Dyche isn’t going anywhere.

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Post by Gordaleman » Sun May 30, 2021 12:00 pm

TheFamilyCat wrote:
Sun May 30, 2021 7:20 am
That lyric is in the original demo of the Foo Fighters' song.
Lyric? I really wouldn't know.

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Post by taio » Sun May 30, 2021 12:01 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Sun May 30, 2021 11:07 am
Are you forgetting about the money in the bank?
How much do you think we have he got in the bank?

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Post by taio » Sun May 30, 2021 12:02 pm

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:
Sun May 30, 2021 10:57 am
Unless of course there is more investment to come over the summer.
Yes I referred to taking on more debt

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