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Post by djemba-djemba » Tue Jun 01, 2021 4:43 pm

superdimitri wrote:
Tue Jun 01, 2021 4:25 pm
Williams wasn't great and you could tell they hadn't gelled but Phillips had Wood in his pocket all game and had a very good game.

Lundstrum is another body who's probably good enough so exactly the type of signing we need. We don't have the money to get enough players in that are better than the ones we have. We're short of too many players.

I'd be very surprised we sign a single player who is standout better than our starting 11. That might disappoint some fans but it's important we have injuries covered and someone can step in as adequate cover in different positions.
If we don’t sign anyone during the summer who should go straight into our starting XI then it’s a bloody disgrace.
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Post by Socrates » Tue Jun 01, 2021 4:44 pm

ClaretAndBlue94 wrote:
Tue Jun 01, 2021 3:28 pm
Hopefully. Fits the mould, affordable and a good age. 100+ premier league appearances.
100+ Prem Appearances? Not sure about that.

That’d be some going to do in only two seasons.

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Post by Longsider » Tue Jun 01, 2021 5:47 pm

Murger wrote:
Tue Jun 01, 2021 3:25 pm
Lundstrum at Sheffield United has been released. Nailed on we go in for him.
Absolutely hated by Blades fans. They can't wait to see the back of him.

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Post by ClaretMov » Tue Jun 01, 2021 5:55 pm

Socrates wrote:
Tue Jun 01, 2021 4:44 pm
100+ Prem Appearances? Not sure about that.

That’d be some going to do in only two seasons.
It's 63 games

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Post by superdimitri » Tue Jun 01, 2021 6:11 pm

djemba-djemba wrote:
Tue Jun 01, 2021 4:43 pm
If we don’t sign anyone during the summer who should go straight into our starting XI then it’s a bloody disgrace.
Like I said, some fans won't be happy with it, but I see getting numbers in far more important than improving the 11. We're too many bodies short with too little money to do both.
Would love to be proved wrong though.

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Post by djemba-djemba » Tue Jun 01, 2021 6:25 pm

superdimitri wrote:
Tue Jun 01, 2021 6:11 pm
Like I said, some fans won't be happy with it, but I see getting numbers in far more important than improving the 11. We're too many bodies short with too little money to do both.
Would love to be proved wrong though.
I expect minimum 2 new starters as well as 2 more of these type of squad fillers you mention who are good enough to step up when asked.

If we haven’t got the money to buy a minimum of 4 new players then Dyche needs to utilise the loan market much better than he has in the past. Bring in players who he will use and who are good enough, not just expensive dross to sit on the bench.

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Post by Mattster » Tue Jun 01, 2021 6:25 pm

Lundstram would just be another body, wouldn't be a cheap wage either since he'll be backing himself as a proven PL player. We shouldn't be wasting money on players who don't offer an improvement on what we have or potential to improve - doing that is why we're in need of such a big window now. Throwing money away on journeymen utility players with no resale value. We have a good core, it needs a couple of quality additions, plus some youth and pace added to it.

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Post by ClaretMov » Tue Jun 01, 2021 6:54 pm

"Lundstram would just be another body, wouldn't be a cheap wage either since he'll be backing himself as a proven PL player" he was on 25k a week at Sheff utd so not massive

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Post by Jakubs Tash » Tue Jun 01, 2021 7:31 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Tue Jun 01, 2021 3:31 pm
I’m not sure at 10m he will be a long replacement.
2m Euros fee agreed for Hendry. Think you’ve got your wires crossed.

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Tue Jun 01, 2021 7:34 pm

Jakubs Tash wrote:
Tue Jun 01, 2021 7:31 pm
2m Euros fee agreed for Hendry. Think you’ve got your wires crossed.
Nope wires not crossed.

They have bought him for 2m Euros on the pre tense they are selling him immediately for 10m. Clearly says that on the link someone shared earlier.

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Post by brexit » Tue Jun 01, 2021 7:36 pm

How many managers gone back to previous clubs and had more success than they had the first time?
Does Eddie Howe Count?

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Post by DCWat » Tue Jun 01, 2021 7:45 pm

superdimitri wrote:
Tue Jun 01, 2021 6:11 pm
Like I said, some fans won't be happy with it, but I see getting numbers in far more important than improving the 11. We're too many bodies short with too little money to do both.
Would love to be proved wrong though.
Improve the first XI and, as long as there isn’t a departure, you’re automatically adding depth.
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Post by KRBFC » Tue Jun 01, 2021 7:47 pm

DCWat wrote:
Tue Jun 01, 2021 7:45 pm
Improve the first XI and, as long as there isn’t a departure, you’re automatically adding depth.
This

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Post by Jakubs Tash » Tue Jun 01, 2021 8:05 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Tue Jun 01, 2021 7:34 pm
Nope wires not crossed.

They have bought him for 2m Euros on the pre tense they are selling him immediately for 10m. Clearly says that on the link someone shared earlier.
I didn’t open the link but I’m fairly sure he hasn’t signed for the Belgian club yet. They have first option on him IF they can agree personal terms but he knows he’s wanted elsewhere so I don’t see him staying there.

I’m 100% certain that we wouldn’t pay 10m for someone with his profile/pedigree.

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Tue Jun 01, 2021 8:10 pm

Jakubs Tash wrote:
Tue Jun 01, 2021 8:05 pm
I didn’t open the link but I’m fairly sure he hasn’t signed for the Belgian club yet. They have first option on him IF they can agree personal terms but he knows he’s wanted elsewhere so I don’t see him staying there.

I’m 100% certain that we wouldn’t pay 10m for someone with his profile/pedigree.
That’s what the document says, he has signed for Ootesunde and they are selling him before the Euros for 10m.

Can’t say I know anything about him but he must have something if 4 clubs are chasing him.

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Post by Hedontplayforyou » Tue Jun 01, 2021 8:36 pm

Lundstram will end up at WBA with Wilder

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Post by minnieclaret » Tue Jun 01, 2021 8:53 pm

Hedontplayforyou wrote:
Tue Jun 01, 2021 8:36 pm
Lundstram will end up at WBA with Wilder
Why? The hate, mentioned above, from Blades fans comes from him telling them he was seeing out his contract. All legal but stupid. Why should Wilder trust him again.

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Post by Cubanclaret » Tue Jun 01, 2021 9:03 pm

Said it on here before but Lundstrum had a purple patch for half a season. He wasn’t a first team regular in Blades’ promotion year and he has been benched - more often than not - in their relegation season, having attracted the ire of the supporters for a number of below par displays. There’s plenty of Sheff United players who could improve our squad but not sure he’s one of them.

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Post by Vegas Claret » Tue Jun 01, 2021 9:03 pm

Lundstrums attitude was abysmal by all accounts.

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Post by NewClaret » Tue Jun 01, 2021 9:06 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Tue Jun 01, 2021 9:03 pm
Lundstrums attitude was abysmal by all accounts.
And Dyche will know that from his pal Wilder, so no chance we’ll be in for him.

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Tue Jun 01, 2021 9:08 pm

I think we could be in for hard summer. Talksport are saying Bournemouth are looking for 30m each for brooks and Danjuma.

Crazy sums of money

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Post by Vegas Claret » Tue Jun 01, 2021 9:37 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Tue Jun 01, 2021 9:06 pm
And Dyche will know that from his pal Wilder, so no chance we’ll be in for him.
exactly my thoughts on it

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Post by Quickenthetempo » Tue Jun 01, 2021 10:01 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Tue Jun 01, 2021 9:08 pm
I think we could be in for hard summer. Talksport are saying Bournemouth are looking for 30m each for brooks and Danjuma.

Crazy sums of money
They should want as much as possible for their players. Clubs willing to pay it is another matter.

They are desperate to sell though.

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Tue Jun 01, 2021 10:03 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Tue Jun 01, 2021 10:01 pm
They should want as much as possible for their players. Clubs willing to pay it is another matter.

They are desperate to sell though.
Scary sums of money for lads who haven’t exactly set the prem alight in there short stints.

Top championship talent is nearly double our transfer record now.

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Post by Jakubclaret » Tue Jun 01, 2021 10:11 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Tue Jun 01, 2021 10:03 pm
Scary sums of money for lads who haven’t exactly set the prem alight in there short stints.

Top championship talent is nearly double our transfer record now.
100% true it’s just not sustainable for us without serious investment regarding player recruitment, I personally think we’ll be ok for another season & then it’ll catch up with us, 1 thing we’ve currently relied on especially this season is the 3 worst teams safe in that knowledge, but I think it’ll get to the stage where the likes of Norwich ect will become stronger.

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Tue Jun 01, 2021 10:22 pm

Jakubclaret wrote:
Tue Jun 01, 2021 10:11 pm
100% true it’s just not sustainable for us without serious investment regarding player recruitment, I personally think we’ll be ok for another season & then it’ll catch up with us, 1 thing we’ve currently relied on especially this season is the 3 worst teams safe in that knowledge, but I think it’ll get to the stage where the likes of Norwich ect will become stronger.
I just don’t know how we can compete. We purchased the leagues top scorer for 15m in 2017. This seasons top scorer was rumoured to be available for 35m.

Them kinds of sums are just not in our ball park.

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Post by Jakubclaret » Tue Jun 01, 2021 10:25 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Tue Jun 01, 2021 10:22 pm
I just don’t know how we can compete. We purchased the leagues top scorer for 15m in 2017. This seasons top scorer was rumoured to be available for 35m.

Them kinds of sums are just not in our ball park.
We’ve had the all the right ingredients & a top quality manager who knows what he’s doing but he can only do so much & I just think circumstances soon will turn against us, maybe even next season & me predicting the season after is faulty thinking.

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Post by NewClaret » Tue Jun 01, 2021 11:51 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Tue Jun 01, 2021 10:22 pm
I just don’t know how we can compete. We purchased the leagues top scorer for 15m in 2017. This seasons top scorer was rumoured to be available for 35m.

Them kinds of sums are just not in our ball park.
The prospect of Brentford getting £35m for Ivan Toney this summer is ridiculous - all paper talk. As Moyes succinctly put it; football’s skint.

They’d have been lucky to reach the £25m mark payed for Benrahma last summer (and that was in many instalments if I remember correctly).

From what I can see, the Championship clubs are in some trouble and, whilst they might talk things up, will increasingly come under pressure to sell particularly if stadiums aren’t going to fully reopen by August. It’ll take them all a couple of seasons of normal operations to stabilise, I’d guess.

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Post by superdimitri » Wed Jun 02, 2021 2:46 am

djemba-djemba wrote:
Tue Jun 01, 2021 6:25 pm
I expect minimum 2 new starters as well as 2 more of these type of squad fillers you mention who are good enough to step up when asked.

If we haven’t got the money to buy a minimum of 4 new players then Dyche needs to utilise the loan market much better than he has in the past. Bring in players who he will use and who are good enough, not just expensive dross to sit on the bench.
I think you're being unrealistic to be honest..and I think you'll be disappointed. Hope I'm wrong.
DCWat wrote:
Tue Jun 01, 2021 7:45 pm
Improve the first XI and, as long as there isn’t a departure, you’re automatically adding depth.
When you don't have a budget and only need a couple of players maybe. When you are on a low budget and desperately need squad depth you can't afford to bust it all on just 1 or 2 players.

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Post by DCWat » Wed Jun 02, 2021 5:46 am

Ivan Toney was a five million purchase. Perhaps it’s cleverer recruitment as opposed to bigger spending recruitment that’s required.

There’s a hell of a lot of negative outlooks on this thread. We may well have a difficult window but let’s, for now at least, see how it pans out.

Between Dyche and Pace (assuming Dyche buys into and commits to longer term plans) it’s now about developing a strategy that allows us to compete for signings, identify talent and keep gradually improving the squad.

Hopefully there’s much more of a positive attitude towards what we can do and how we can do it by the powers that be, than we are seeing on here.

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Post by Socrates » Wed Jun 02, 2021 7:34 am

The way transfers are reported on in this country is a nonsense. 24 hours sports news and click bait articles mean that hype and spin is all - numbers are plucked out of thin air and links made without any real evidence.

Bournemouth may very well want £30 million for David Brooks. But look at the balance sheet of every major club released over the last year. Huge, huge losses all over Europe, TV deals failing in France, Premier League clubs having to pay back money on their TV deals. Bournemouth, or whoever, can want what they want ..... if the money isn’t there then they have a problem. And the money absolutely isn’t there at the moment.

Barcelona are dealing in the free transfer market at the moment .... Aguero, Garcia, Wijnaldum, Depay. That tells me far more about the state of things than any tweet from a “journalist”.
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Post by jedi_master » Wed Jun 02, 2021 7:44 am

Before people start proclaiming Ivan Toney as the second coming of Romario, let’s see how he does in the Premier League.

For every Chris Wood there’s a Rob Earnshaw - you just can never be sure with these things.
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Post by Jakubs Tash » Wed Jun 02, 2021 8:59 am

Some people choose to believe everything they read/hear...

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Post by TsarBomba » Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:08 am

Socrates wrote:
Wed Jun 02, 2021 7:34 am
The way transfers are reported on in this country is a nonsense. 24 hours sports news and click bait articles mean that hype and spin is all - numbers are plucked out of thin air and links made without any real evidence.

Bournemouth may very well want £30 million for David Brooks. But look at the balance sheet of every major club released over the last year. Huge, huge losses all over Europe, TV deals failing in France, Premier League clubs having to pay back money on their TV deals. Bournemouth, or whoever, can want what they want ..... if the money isn’t there then they have a problem. And the money absolutely isn’t there at the moment.

Barcelona are dealing in the free transfer market at the moment .... Aguero, Garcia, Wijnaldum, Depay. That tells me far more about the state of things than any tweet from a “journalist”.
Spot on.

I’m quietly optimistic about this summer.

Everybody is skint, or at the very least tightening their belts, for the aforementioned reasons.

The current climate may just very well play into our hands a little.

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Post by ClaretAndBlue94 » Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:08 am

ClaretMov wrote:
Tue Jun 01, 2021 5:55 pm
It's 63 games
Indeed it is. My error.

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Post by warksclaret » Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:27 am

DCWat wrote:
Wed Jun 02, 2021 5:46 am
Ivan Toney was a five million purchase. Perhaps it’s cleverer recruitment as opposed to bigger spending recruitment that’s required.

There’s a hell of a lot of negative outlooks on this thread. We may well have a difficult window but let’s, for now at least, see how it pans out.

Between Dyche and Pace (assuming Dyche buys into and commits to longer term plans) it’s now about developing a strategy that allows us to compete for signings, identify talent and keep gradually improving the squad.

Hopefully there’s much more of a positive attitude towards what we can do and how we can do it by the powers that be, than we are seeing on here.
DC agree with you-whats important is the relationship and trust between SD and AP. SD needs to change his outlook on LOANS. There will be players out there out of contract . Heaton, Ward and Arfield were great examples, but we had the ability six or so years ago to identify these players who became great loyal servants. There are also some exceptional players from the top six. who don't even feature in their squads. Reece James (outstanding in the Champions League Final) was on loan at Wigan. Mount and Tomori on loan at Derby . No direspect to Wigan, but if they can identify talent like James, we should be able to. If we were SMART enough I think we could get two players on loan, and two OOC, all better than the players we have. Then we keep the cash for a steller signing. What we dont want on the eve of the new season is excuses

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Post by Jakubclaret » Wed Jun 02, 2021 6:49 pm

https://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2021/06/02/r ... prem-move/
Don't know if this as been mentioned before but we could be interested in signing him.

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Post by Longsider » Wed Jun 02, 2021 6:52 pm

Jakubclaret wrote:
Wed Jun 02, 2021 6:49 pm
https://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2021/06/02/r ... prem-move/
Don't know if this as been mentioned before but we could be interested in signing him.
Could be Dyche's first signing... At Palace

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Post by Right_winger » Wed Jun 02, 2021 7:05 pm

We should be in for Ryan Gauld. He’s on a free transfer and is technically superior to what we have in the middle of the park.

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Post by Hedontplayforyou » Wed Jun 02, 2021 7:59 pm

Jack Hendry just scored for Scotland vs the Netherlands, nice strike too

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Post by Right_winger » Wed Jun 02, 2021 8:03 pm

Hedontplayforyou wrote:
Wed Jun 02, 2021 7:59 pm
Jack Hendry just scored for Scotland vs the Netherlands, nice strike too
Yeah and just let his man get a free header to set up an equaliser.

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Post by Hedontplayforyou » Wed Jun 02, 2021 8:58 pm

Right_winger wrote:
Wed Jun 02, 2021 8:03 pm
Yeah and just let his man get a free header to set up an equaliser.
Switched off to watch our lot, not the wisest choice. Tyrone Mings and Coady simply cannot be allowed to play together

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Post by Jakubclaret » Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:28 pm

Hedontplayforyou wrote:
Wed Jun 02, 2021 8:58 pm
Switched off to watch our lot, not the wisest choice. Tyrone Mings and Coady simply cannot be allowed to play together

"Tyrone Mings and Coady simply cannot be allowed to play together" I should think not :D

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Post by minnieclaret » Fri Jun 04, 2021 12:23 pm

Andre Ayew OOC at Swansea and leaving. Could do a job for us if Vydra decides to move on.

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Post by Paddy1882 » Fri Jun 04, 2021 12:28 pm

Josh king and Mo Besic being released by Everton as well would both Add some quality

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Post by jedi_master » Fri Jun 04, 2021 12:33 pm

We tried to sign Josh King in January, so you can see that being very possible on a free transfer.

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Post by BenWickes » Fri Jun 04, 2021 12:43 pm

Paddy1882 wrote:
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Josh king and Mo Besic being released by Everton as well would both Add some quality
Both would fill gaps as King can operate as a wide man. I've always liked Besic. Very comfortable on the ball with two good feet.

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Post by randomclaret2 » Fri Jun 04, 2021 12:48 pm

Besic has played barely 30 League games in his 7 years at Everton

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Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion

Post by BenWickes » Fri Jun 04, 2021 12:56 pm

randomclaret2 wrote:
Fri Jun 04, 2021 12:48 pm
Besic has played barely 30 League games in his 7 years at Everton
Noted. I put that down to the number of different managers (five managers and four caretakers) since he joined, wanting their own players rather his own ability. I've seen far worse players get in the first team ahead of him over those years at Everton.

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Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion

Post by NewClaret » Fri Jun 04, 2021 1:13 pm

Paddy1882 wrote:
Fri Jun 04, 2021 12:28 pm
Josh king and Mo Besic being released by Everton as well would both Add some quality
Would take King in a heartbeat. Good cover for Dwight too.

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