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Post by kentonclaret » Mon Jun 28, 2021 9:26 am

Plenty of talk about central defenders and full backs but we need some more creativity and goal threat in this team.

Burnley were among the 3 lowest scoring teams in the PL last season and the other 2 were relegated!
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Post by arise_sir_charge » Mon Jun 28, 2021 9:29 am

mdd2 wrote:
Mon Jun 28, 2021 9:17 am
Folk keep posting about the players we need to sign but if you look at the list CT has put up including Tarks excluding Collins (only 20) we have a squad of 23 players over 21 years of age including Glennon, Benson and Mumbongo. So unless Tarks leaves and/or the likes of the three young lads go out on loan we don't have room for the numbers some on here are wanting us to sign
I thought that home grown don’t count.

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Post by warksclaret » Mon Jun 28, 2021 9:32 am

Cirrus_Minor wrote:
Mon Jun 28, 2021 8:34 am
Looks like we are close to signing Ciaron Dickson from Rangers.
Maybe one for the future. He appears to be highly rated in Scotland. Imagine if we have discovered a new McNeil
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Post by mdd2 » Mon Jun 28, 2021 9:36 am

arise_sir_charge wrote:
Mon Jun 28, 2021 9:29 am
I thought that home grown don’t count.
I think the squad of 25 is limited to 17 non British ie having spent less than 3 years with an English or Welsh club and any number of home grown players who are under 21 years of age on january 1st of the upcoming season so for 21-22 season they have to be under 21 on Jan 1st 2021. But I may be wrong and if he reads this CT will post the correct rules

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Post by mdd2 » Mon Jun 28, 2021 9:38 am

warksclaret wrote:
Mon Jun 28, 2021 9:32 am
Maybe one for the future. He appears to be highly rated in Scotland. Imagine if we have discovered a new McNeil
Or a Gibson-as it is reported he has fallen out with the backroom staff at Rangers. :lol:

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Mon Jun 28, 2021 9:38 am

mdd2 wrote:
Mon Jun 28, 2021 9:36 am
I think the squad of 25 is limited to 17 non British ie having spent less than 3 years with an English or Welsh club and any number of home grown players who are under 21 years of age on january 1st of the upcoming season so for 21-22 season they have to be under 21 on Jan 1st 2021. But I may be wrong and if he reads this CT will post the correct rules
I think you are right. I thought it was something to do with professional contracts, so for example anyone on a youth contract didn’t count towards the 25.

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Post by minnieclaret » Mon Jun 28, 2021 9:45 am

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Mon Jun 28, 2021 8:35 am
Apart from Ben Mee, which other CB's have regularly started at full back for Dyche?
To reverse that with all these right footed CBs coming in is Charlie being lined up as Ben Mee’s cover with Erik to come in at LB?

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Post by alwaysaclaret » Mon Jun 28, 2021 9:48 am

mdd2 wrote:
Mon Jun 28, 2021 9:17 am
Folk keep posting about the players we need to sign but if you look at the list CT has put up including Tarks excluding Collins (only 20) we have a squad of 23 players over 21 years of age including Glennon, Benson and Mumbongo. So unless Tarks leaves and/or the likes of the three young lads go out on loan we don't have room for the numbers some on here are wanting us to sign
We do if we got rid of the 5 or so that are not good enough or that we are carrying, although I'm a big fan of gudmundson for instance we've carried him for the last 2 seasons now, Brady was another, I suspect 1 or both of jrod and Barnes will soon come into that category, Benson doesn't imo look like he's going to be able to cut it in this league, jury's out on mumbongo, I also suspect Cork is entering he's last season of at least being good enough to start in this league, so as has been mentioned a striker, cm, at least 1 winger desperately, a rb, and 1 other cb left sided preferably is needed, if not all for this season but no later than next, we can't keep standing still and expect to stay in this league, most of which I have mentioned have been very good servant's but we have to move on. Forgot to mention bardo, although another good servant but surely has to be coming to the end at this level.

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Post by mdd2 » Mon Jun 28, 2021 9:58 am

alwaysaclaret wrote:
Mon Jun 28, 2021 9:48 am
We do if we got rid of the 5 or so that are not good enough or that we are carrying, although I'm a big fan of gudmundson for instance we've carried him for the last 2 seasons now, Brady was another, I suspect 1 or both of jrod and Barnes will soon come into that category, Benson doesn't imo look like he's going to be able to cut it in this league, jury's out on mumbongo, I also suspect Cork is entering he's last season of at least being good enough to start in this league, so as has been mentioned a striker, cm, at least 1 winger desperately, a rb, and 1 other cb left sided preferably is needed, if not all for this season but no later than next, we can't keep standing still and expect to stay in this league, most of which I have mentioned have been very good servant's but we have to move on. Forgot to mention bardo, although another good servant but surely has to be coming to the end at this level.
But it is one thing to think that a player needs to leave or go on loan, it is another thing to get them off the payroll if they are under contract.
And the easiest to ship out are the players ideally we want to keep

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Mon Jun 28, 2021 10:00 am

mdd2 wrote:
Mon Jun 28, 2021 9:58 am
But it is one thing to think that a player needs to leave or go on loan, it is another thing to get them off the payroll if they are under contract.
And the easiest to ship out are the players ideally we want to keep
I think most people are talking about forward planning. I believe there are 7-8 members of the first team out of contract in less than 12 months.

We can’t replace that many in one summer, so we need start getting them in now and bedding them in. If someone misses the cut (of the 25) then so be it. We can’t afford to stand still again.
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Post by jojomk1 » Mon Jun 28, 2021 10:18 am

Of the one's out of contract next summer (even those with possible options), I would not be unhappy to lose the likes of Barnes, Jay, Bardsley, Pieters and Stephens
Doubts Vydra will stay so add him

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Post by alwaysaclaret » Mon Jun 28, 2021 10:32 am

jojomk1 wrote:
Mon Jun 28, 2021 10:18 am
Of the one's out of contract next summer (even those with possible options), I would not be unhappy to lose the likes of Barnes, Jay, Bardsley, Pieters and Stephens
Doubts Vydra will stay so add him
I would have to be doing my utmost to keep vydra and pieters, for some reason I'm of the opinion pieters will stay fit enough to carry on for a while yet, Stephens should never have been given a contract in the first place, from what we've seen so far one of dyche's mistakes. Clearly why Brighton offloaded him.

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Post by BigChaCha » Mon Jun 28, 2021 10:38 am

Stephens should never have been given a contract in the first place, from what we've seen so far one of dyche's mistakes.
Hardly a mistake... We needed bodies in that position at the time and SD was given virtually no budget to fil it... Who would you have got in instead for the same or less than we paid for Stephens?

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Post by alwaysaclaret » Mon Jun 28, 2021 10:42 am

No one considering the game time he's had, of which most of the time he's been injured or unfit, so consequently I'd still consider him to be a mistake

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Post by Lancasterclaret » Mon Jun 28, 2021 10:42 am

Stephens was a long term target and available, and we were desperate

I think he's a good player, but only in a midfield three, and I'm not sure there is a role for him

But he's going to have a full pre-season with us, so we'll see if we can see the perfectly ok player that Brighton had or not

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Post by KRBFC » Mon Jun 28, 2021 10:45 am

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Mon Jun 28, 2021 8:46 am
19 and being a member of Rangers youth squad you would imagine the under 23s
He got released from Rangers I think

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Post by alwaysaclaret » Mon Jun 28, 2021 10:52 am

Lancasterclaret wrote:
Mon Jun 28, 2021 10:42 am
Stephens was a long term target and available, and we were desperate

I think he's a good player, but only in a midfield three, and I'm not sure there is a role for him

But he's going to have a full pre-season with us, so we'll see if we can see the perfectly ok player that Brighton had or not
OK I'll give you that he'll have a full pre-season but potentially another one we'll be carrying, we'll see.

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Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Mon Jun 28, 2021 10:53 am

KRBFC wrote:
Mon Jun 28, 2021 10:45 am
He got released from Rangers I think
Weirdly he signed a new contract in January and has now been released.

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Post by RicardoMontalban » Mon Jun 28, 2021 10:57 am

All these wish lists on players we’d happily bin off seem to avoid the fact that they’re still contracted to us for at least another 12 months and there will be precious few clubs lining up to take these players off our hands, certainly paying them what we currently do.

And I just don’t see a situation where we bring in their replacements while they twiddle their thumbs in the stand. The club have got themselves in a bit of a situation with the need to start rebuilding, but the wholesale changes some seem to be advocating may take longer than hoped for.

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Post by jojomk1 » Mon Jun 28, 2021 11:09 am

And this is the problem with putting together an ageing squad

We have players not deemed good enough to start for us but we have no way of moving them on as few, if any, other clubs are interested in them

Meanwhile they take a sizeable chunk of our wages budget meaning we cannot afford to bring in younger players as an investment in the club's future

People are laughing at the situation Palace find themselves currently in and we are just 12 months behind a similar scenario

Forward planning it certainly is not

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Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Mon Jun 28, 2021 11:23 am

Palace's biggest issue is having no manager though, so they're stuck in limbo with the playing squad until that's resolved.

We should hopefully have that issue resolved this summer.

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Post by randomclaret2 » Mon Jun 28, 2021 11:40 am

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Mon Jun 28, 2021 10:53 am
Weirdly he signed a new contract in January and has now been released.
He's not the only one apparently .Suggestions of some shenanigans behind the scenes with a few of Rangers younger players

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Post by jojomk1 » Mon Jun 28, 2021 11:54 am

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Mon Jun 28, 2021 11:23 am
Palace's biggest issue is having no manager though, so they're stuck in limbo with the playing squad until that's resolved.

We should hopefully have that issue resolved this summer.
Hodgson had been at Palace for 4 years and never really resolved their issue of an ageing squad which could have been one of the reasons the hierarchy decided they needed a differing viewpoint for next season

Whilst we may get our manager signing a new deal this summer his preference for older players still remains, Ashley Young being such a case in point

The signing of Collins may suggest a change - just hope this continues

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Post by Tall Paul » Mon Jun 28, 2021 11:54 am

jojomk1 wrote:
Mon Jun 28, 2021 11:09 am
And this is the problem with putting together an ageing squad

We have players not deemed good enough to start for us but we have no way of moving them on as few, if any, other clubs are interested in them

Meanwhile they take a sizeable chunk of our wages budget meaning we cannot afford to bring in younger players as an investment in the club's future

People are laughing at the situation Palace find themselves currently in and we are just 12 months behind a similar scenario

Forward planning it certainly is not
Which players are you talking about and who is it that deems them not good enough?

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Post by taio » Mon Jun 28, 2021 12:05 pm

jojomk1 wrote:
Mon Jun 28, 2021 11:09 am
And this is the problem with putting together an ageing squad

We have players not deemed good enough to start for us but we have no way of moving them on as few, if any, other clubs are interested in them

Meanwhile they take a sizeable chunk of our wages budget meaning we cannot afford to bring in younger players as an investment in the club's future

People are laughing at the situation Palace find themselves currently in and we are just 12 months behind a similar scenario

Forward planning it certainly is not
Much of what you say here have actually been reasons for our success under Dyche.
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Post by Hedontplayforyou » Mon Jun 28, 2021 1:10 pm

I think this summer we may see a lot of deals between clubs that include player exchanges as well as cash.

If Burnley can utilise this with a deal or two it could help the situation.

I think Barnes looks as if he’s coming to the end of his time with us, but we will struggle to offload him. Stephens is an odd one, as others have suggested I don’t think he can play in a 2, so if any chance to offload him comes up then it may be desirable as I don’t think he offers anything in our system. Jay wasn’t great last season either and may be one that we could get a few million for given his past record with WBA in the championship, but who would be buying? I hope Jay still has something to offer but I think that’s the heart taking over the head their. That being said I can’t see us getting rid of that many because we already need a few in regardless . Interesting summer ahead.

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Post by minnieclaret » Mon Jun 28, 2021 1:34 pm

randomclaret2 wrote:
Mon Jun 28, 2021 11:40 am
He's not the only one apparently .Suggestions of some shenanigans behind the scenes with a few of Rangers younger players
He’s not for SD going off this story.
https://www.rangersnews.uk/news/outspok ... ers-youth/

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Post by KRBFC » Mon Jun 28, 2021 1:45 pm

Tall Paul wrote:
Mon Jun 28, 2021 11:54 am
Which players are you talking about and who is it that deems them not good enough?
Stephens Rodriguez Gudmundsson Barnes Cork are probably five that aren’t good enough right now
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Post by minnieclaret » Mon Jun 28, 2021 1:54 pm

JBG has been more than adequate when fit. Definitely should stay. He can’t be blamed for a Sheffield Utd thug taking him out nor for the Lincoln animal that crippled him.

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Post by Hedontplayforyou » Mon Jun 28, 2021 2:15 pm

minnieclaret wrote:
Mon Jun 28, 2021 1:34 pm
He’s not for SD going off this story.
https://www.rangersnews.uk/news/outspok ... ers-youth/
Not sure what’s so bad about any of that?

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Post by KRBFC » Mon Jun 28, 2021 2:29 pm

minnieclaret wrote:
Mon Jun 28, 2021 1:54 pm
JBG has been more than adequate when fit. Definitely should stay. He can’t be blamed for a Sheffield Utd thug taking him out nor for the Lincoln animal that crippled him.
He's on a fortune with no resale value, he can't stay fit. Waste of resources. He should seriously consider who is paying his wages, us or Iceland. He plays more games for Iceland than he does for Burnley, sits on the treatment table here and then goes playing for Iceland.

His stats are a joke too, 1 assist in the last 2 seasons?

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Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Mon Jun 28, 2021 2:32 pm

4 games for Iceland 39 for Burnley - easy mistake to think 4 is higher than 39
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Post by jojomk1 » Mon Jun 28, 2021 2:37 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Mon Jun 28, 2021 1:45 pm
Stephens Rodriguez Gudmundsson Barnes Cork are probably five that aren’t good enough right now
Add to that Bardsley and Pieters (who won't be contributing much this season unless from the bench)

And add to that Norris and Long who are still contracted for two more seasons

Our transfer policy/team, whoever is involved, have got us into this situation

Yes, we are still in the Premiership, and seriously well done to all for that, but last season clearly showed that the age, fitness and pace of certain players was having a detrimental effect on the team performance

But, as I said before, where is the forward planning when Ashley Young was seen by some as a marquee signing at 36 yrs

Collins is hopefully the start but two or three more players are needed before the current window closes to avoid a real problem in summer 2022

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Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Mon Jun 28, 2021 2:40 pm

jojomk1 wrote:
Mon Jun 28, 2021 2:37 pm
Add to that Bardsley and Pieters (who won't be contributing much this season unless from the bench)

And add to that Norris and Long who are still contracted for two more seasons

Our transfer policy/team, whoever is involved, have got us into this situation

Yes, we are still in the Premiership, and seriously well done to all for that, but last season clearly showed that the age, fitness and pace of certain players was having a detrimental effect on the team performance

But, as I said before, where is the forward planning when Ashley Young was seen by some as a marquee signing at 36 yrs

Collins is hopefully the start but two or three more players are needed before the current window closes to avoid a real problem in summer 2022

Name 1 person who had Young down as a marquee signing

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Post by KRBFC » Mon Jun 28, 2021 2:41 pm

jojomk1 wrote:
Mon Jun 28, 2021 2:37 pm
Add to that Bardsley and Pieters (who won't be contributing much this season unless from the bench)

And add to that Norris and Long who are still contracted for two more seasons

Our transfer policy/team, whoever is involved, have got us into this situation

Yes, we are still in the Premiership, and seriously well done to all for that, but last season clearly showed that the age and pace of certain players was having a detrimental effect on the team performance

But, as I said before, where is the forward planning when Ashley Young was seen by some as a marquee signing at 36 yrs

Collins is hopefully the start but two or three more players are needed before the current window closes to avoid a real problem in summer 2022
I like Pieters, Bardsley and Long, they offer excellent depth, cover and experience. I don't mind the age as much, it's the ability. Pieters has shown to be very good when he's played regardless of age. I actually think Pieters was unlucky to be behind Taylor for large parts of last season.

It's players like Rodriguez Stephens and Gudmundsson who need replacing first imo, not good enough when they play, no resale value and they're several of our highest earners.

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Post by WiscoClaret » Mon Jun 28, 2021 3:28 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Mon Jun 28, 2021 2:29 pm
He's on a fortune with no resale value, he can't stay fit. Waste of resources. He should seriously consider who is paying his wages, us or Iceland. He plays more games for Iceland than he does for Burnley, sits on the treatment table here and then goes playing for Iceland.

His stats are a joke too, 1 assist in the last 2 seasons?
6 goals and 7 assists in his last 3 seasons. It’s not amazing. However, in a non injury ravaged time JBG is great! If his game time was managed with another RW we wouldn’t be having this discussion. Most teams rotate players, due to lack of investment and the nature of finance at Burnley over the years we haven’t had that luxury. Add in condensed fixture schedules etc. it’s not a great combination. He’s a very good player who is now 30. He has a few more years but his replacement should be brought in to learn under him and battle for his spot.

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Post by KRBFC » Mon Jun 28, 2021 3:35 pm

WiscoClaret wrote:
Mon Jun 28, 2021 3:28 pm
6 goals and 7 assists in his last 3 seasons. It’s not amazing. However, in a non injury ravaged time JBG is great! If his game time was managed with another RW we wouldn’t be having this discussion. Most teams rotate players, due to lack of investment and the nature of finance at Burnley over the years we haven’t had that luxury. Add in condensed fixture schedules etc. it’s not a great combination. He’s a very good player who is now 30. He has a few more years but his replacement should be brought in to learn under him and battle for his spot.
He's got 1 assist in 2 full seasons, I don't know where you see a ''very good player'' tbh.

a non injury ravaged JBG? no such thing unfortunately. He doesn't chose to be injured, same as Brady but it's about time we got rid and cut our losses, he's not worth the £40,000 p/w wage, it could be utilised far better, elsewhere.

It's irritating he keeps choosing to feature for Iceland when he isn't fit to play.

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Post by Tall Paul » Mon Jun 28, 2021 3:38 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Mon Jun 28, 2021 1:45 pm
Stephens Rodriguez Gudmundsson Barnes Cork are probably five that aren’t good enough right now
You didn't answer the second part of the question.

If the answer is "me and a vocal minority of fans on the internet", as I suspect, it's not really as big an issue as jojo is saying it is. I'm pretty sure the manager thinks they are good enough.
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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Mon Jun 28, 2021 3:40 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Mon Jun 28, 2021 3:35 pm
He's got 1 assist in 2 full seasons, I don't know where you see a ''very good player'' tbh.

a non injury ravaged JBG? no such thing unfortunately. He doesn't chose to be injured, same as Brady but it's about time we got rid and cut our losses, he's not worth the £40,000 p/w wage, it could be utilised far better, elsewhere.

It's irritating he keeps choosing to feature for Iceland when he isn't fit to play.
To be fair KRBFC be very rarely features for Iceland nowadays. Think it’s something like 5 times in the past three seasons.

I do agree though that the wage would be better spent elsewhere.

Let’s hope he gets an injury free pre season and pushes on.

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Mon Jun 28, 2021 3:41 pm

Tall Paul wrote:
Mon Jun 28, 2021 3:38 pm
You didn't answer the second part of the question.

If the answer is "me and a vocal minority of fans on the internet", as I suspect, it's not really a massive issue. I'm pretty sure the manager thinks they are good enough.
Depends what you class as good enough. I think they could play a part but in reality they are at the end of there premier league careers now.

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Post by ClaretAL » Mon Jun 28, 2021 3:49 pm

I think you lot need to get a room...
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Post by djemba-djemba » Mon Jun 28, 2021 5:44 pm

ClaretAL wrote:
Sun Jun 27, 2021 9:03 pm
Do you ever have anything positive to say? On this thread alone you really have made me wonder if your a venky keyboard warrior.
It was a simple question to a statement someone made.

They claimed he would be sat on the bench at Liverpool and I don’t think he would. Perhaps you’d like to answer it...

Do you think he would make Liverpool’s bench next season?

I don’t see the problem with what I posted. He wouldn’t make Liverpool’s bench next season.

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Post by Hedontplayforyou » Mon Jun 28, 2021 5:48 pm

Van Dijk
Matip
Konate
Gomez

That’s your four match day squad centre halves for Liverpool if it helps

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Post by TheFamilyCat » Mon Jun 28, 2021 5:55 pm

kentonclaret wrote:
Mon Jun 28, 2021 9:26 am
Plenty of talk about central defenders and full backs but we need some more creativity and goal threat in this team.

Burnley were among the 3 lowest scoring teams in the PL last season and the other 2 were relegated!
That's why we need more defenders. We can't afford to concede many goals

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Post by TheFamilyCat » Mon Jun 28, 2021 6:24 pm

Jakubclaret wrote:
Sat Jun 26, 2021 10:15 pm
Does any particular reason exist why you continue to stalk & harass me on this forum despite me never initiating any approaches with you & me repeatedly blocking you & not wishing to maintain any communication with you, but bizarrely you seem to persist in a warped way.
Yes. In the words of Smashy & Nicie you are "quite literally bonkers, mate". You brighten up my days in so many ways. The "stalking and harassing" is simply my way of encouraging you, please accept it as the compliment it is.

PS if you have to repeatedly block me, you're probably not doing it right.

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Post by KRBFC » Mon Jun 28, 2021 7:15 pm

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Mon Jun 28, 2021 2:32 pm
4 games for Iceland 39 for Burnley - easy mistake to think 4 is higher than 39
easy mistake to take what I say quite literally, not surprised it's you though.

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Post by ClaretAL » Mon Jun 28, 2021 7:38 pm

Ok guys, let's just calm things down a little. I'm not sure what has got in to people, but it seems to have become just 1 big bitching contest. We are all on the same side and most of us want our team to do well so less testosterone and more intelligent debate please 🙏😀
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Post by NewClaret » Mon Jun 28, 2021 7:45 pm

ClaretAL wrote:
Mon Jun 28, 2021 7:38 pm
Ok guys, let's just calm things down a little. I'm not sure what has got in to people, but it seems to have become just 1 big bitching contest. We are all on the same side and most of us want our team to do well so less testosterone and more intelligent debate please 🙏😀
Good post. Think it’s a bit unrealistic to expect intelligent debate though :lol:

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Mon Jun 28, 2021 9:44 pm

Not a link but that striker for Switzerland looks perfect for us

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Post by williamjblazkowicz » Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:38 am

According to the Daily Mail, we're interested in Swansea City right back Connor Roberts.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footb ... berts.html

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