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Plenty of talk about central defenders and full backs but we need some more creativity and goal threat in this team.
Burnley were among the 3 lowest scoring teams in the PL last season and the other 2 were relegated!
Burnley were among the 3 lowest scoring teams in the PL last season and the other 2 were relegated!
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I thought that home grown don’t count.mdd2 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 9:17 amFolk keep posting about the players we need to sign but if you look at the list CT has put up including Tarks excluding Collins (only 20) we have a squad of 23 players over 21 years of age including Glennon, Benson and Mumbongo. So unless Tarks leaves and/or the likes of the three young lads go out on loan we don't have room for the numbers some on here are wanting us to sign
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Maybe one for the future. He appears to be highly rated in Scotland. Imagine if we have discovered a new McNeilCirrus_Minor wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 8:34 amLooks like we are close to signing Ciaron Dickson from Rangers.
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I think the squad of 25 is limited to 17 non British ie having spent less than 3 years with an English or Welsh club and any number of home grown players who are under 21 years of age on january 1st of the upcoming season so for 21-22 season they have to be under 21 on Jan 1st 2021. But I may be wrong and if he reads this CT will post the correct rules
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Or a Gibson-as it is reported he has fallen out with the backroom staff at Rangers.warksclaret wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 9:32 amMaybe one for the future. He appears to be highly rated in Scotland. Imagine if we have discovered a new McNeil
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I think you are right. I thought it was something to do with professional contracts, so for example anyone on a youth contract didn’t count towards the 25.mdd2 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 9:36 amI think the squad of 25 is limited to 17 non British ie having spent less than 3 years with an English or Welsh club and any number of home grown players who are under 21 years of age on january 1st of the upcoming season so for 21-22 season they have to be under 21 on Jan 1st 2021. But I may be wrong and if he reads this CT will post the correct rules
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To reverse that with all these right footed CBs coming in is Charlie being lined up as Ben Mee’s cover with Erik to come in at LB?GodIsADeeJay81 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 8:35 amApart from Ben Mee, which other CB's have regularly started at full back for Dyche?
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We do if we got rid of the 5 or so that are not good enough or that we are carrying, although I'm a big fan of gudmundson for instance we've carried him for the last 2 seasons now, Brady was another, I suspect 1 or both of jrod and Barnes will soon come into that category, Benson doesn't imo look like he's going to be able to cut it in this league, jury's out on mumbongo, I also suspect Cork is entering he's last season of at least being good enough to start in this league, so as has been mentioned a striker, cm, at least 1 winger desperately, a rb, and 1 other cb left sided preferably is needed, if not all for this season but no later than next, we can't keep standing still and expect to stay in this league, most of which I have mentioned have been very good servant's but we have to move on. Forgot to mention bardo, although another good servant but surely has to be coming to the end at this level.mdd2 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 9:17 amFolk keep posting about the players we need to sign but if you look at the list CT has put up including Tarks excluding Collins (only 20) we have a squad of 23 players over 21 years of age including Glennon, Benson and Mumbongo. So unless Tarks leaves and/or the likes of the three young lads go out on loan we don't have room for the numbers some on here are wanting us to sign
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But it is one thing to think that a player needs to leave or go on loan, it is another thing to get them off the payroll if they are under contract.alwaysaclaret wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 9:48 amWe do if we got rid of the 5 or so that are not good enough or that we are carrying, although I'm a big fan of gudmundson for instance we've carried him for the last 2 seasons now, Brady was another, I suspect 1 or both of jrod and Barnes will soon come into that category, Benson doesn't imo look like he's going to be able to cut it in this league, jury's out on mumbongo, I also suspect Cork is entering he's last season of at least being good enough to start in this league, so as has been mentioned a striker, cm, at least 1 winger desperately, a rb, and 1 other cb left sided preferably is needed, if not all for this season but no later than next, we can't keep standing still and expect to stay in this league, most of which I have mentioned have been very good servant's but we have to move on. Forgot to mention bardo, although another good servant but surely has to be coming to the end at this level.
And the easiest to ship out are the players ideally we want to keep
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I think most people are talking about forward planning. I believe there are 7-8 members of the first team out of contract in less than 12 months.
We can’t replace that many in one summer, so we need start getting them in now and bedding them in. If someone misses the cut (of the 25) then so be it. We can’t afford to stand still again.
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Of the one's out of contract next summer (even those with possible options), I would not be unhappy to lose the likes of Barnes, Jay, Bardsley, Pieters and Stephens
Doubts Vydra will stay so add him
Doubts Vydra will stay so add him
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I would have to be doing my utmost to keep vydra and pieters, for some reason I'm of the opinion pieters will stay fit enough to carry on for a while yet, Stephens should never have been given a contract in the first place, from what we've seen so far one of dyche's mistakes. Clearly why Brighton offloaded him.
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Hardly a mistake... We needed bodies in that position at the time and SD was given virtually no budget to fil it... Who would you have got in instead for the same or less than we paid for Stephens?Stephens should never have been given a contract in the first place, from what we've seen so far one of dyche's mistakes.
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No one considering the game time he's had, of which most of the time he's been injured or unfit, so consequently I'd still consider him to be a mistake
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Stephens was a long term target and available, and we were desperate
I think he's a good player, but only in a midfield three, and I'm not sure there is a role for him
But he's going to have a full pre-season with us, so we'll see if we can see the perfectly ok player that Brighton had or not
I think he's a good player, but only in a midfield three, and I'm not sure there is a role for him
But he's going to have a full pre-season with us, so we'll see if we can see the perfectly ok player that Brighton had or not
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He got released from Rangers I thinkclaretonthecoast1882 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 8:46 am19 and being a member of Rangers youth squad you would imagine the under 23s
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OK I'll give you that he'll have a full pre-season but potentially another one we'll be carrying, we'll see.Lancasterclaret wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 10:42 amStephens was a long term target and available, and we were desperate
I think he's a good player, but only in a midfield three, and I'm not sure there is a role for him
But he's going to have a full pre-season with us, so we'll see if we can see the perfectly ok player that Brighton had or not
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All these wish lists on players we’d happily bin off seem to avoid the fact that they’re still contracted to us for at least another 12 months and there will be precious few clubs lining up to take these players off our hands, certainly paying them what we currently do.
And I just don’t see a situation where we bring in their replacements while they twiddle their thumbs in the stand. The club have got themselves in a bit of a situation with the need to start rebuilding, but the wholesale changes some seem to be advocating may take longer than hoped for.
And I just don’t see a situation where we bring in their replacements while they twiddle their thumbs in the stand. The club have got themselves in a bit of a situation with the need to start rebuilding, but the wholesale changes some seem to be advocating may take longer than hoped for.
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And this is the problem with putting together an ageing squad
We have players not deemed good enough to start for us but we have no way of moving them on as few, if any, other clubs are interested in them
Meanwhile they take a sizeable chunk of our wages budget meaning we cannot afford to bring in younger players as an investment in the club's future
People are laughing at the situation Palace find themselves currently in and we are just 12 months behind a similar scenario
Forward planning it certainly is not
We have players not deemed good enough to start for us but we have no way of moving them on as few, if any, other clubs are interested in them
Meanwhile they take a sizeable chunk of our wages budget meaning we cannot afford to bring in younger players as an investment in the club's future
People are laughing at the situation Palace find themselves currently in and we are just 12 months behind a similar scenario
Forward planning it certainly is not
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Palace's biggest issue is having no manager though, so they're stuck in limbo with the playing squad until that's resolved.
We should hopefully have that issue resolved this summer.
We should hopefully have that issue resolved this summer.
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He's not the only one apparently .Suggestions of some shenanigans behind the scenes with a few of Rangers younger playersGodIsADeeJay81 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 10:53 amWeirdly he signed a new contract in January and has now been released.
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Hodgson had been at Palace for 4 years and never really resolved their issue of an ageing squad which could have been one of the reasons the hierarchy decided they needed a differing viewpoint for next seasonGodIsADeeJay81 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 11:23 amPalace's biggest issue is having no manager though, so they're stuck in limbo with the playing squad until that's resolved.
We should hopefully have that issue resolved this summer.
Whilst we may get our manager signing a new deal this summer his preference for older players still remains, Ashley Young being such a case in point
The signing of Collins may suggest a change - just hope this continues
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Which players are you talking about and who is it that deems them not good enough?jojomk1 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 11:09 amAnd this is the problem with putting together an ageing squad
We have players not deemed good enough to start for us but we have no way of moving them on as few, if any, other clubs are interested in them
Meanwhile they take a sizeable chunk of our wages budget meaning we cannot afford to bring in younger players as an investment in the club's future
People are laughing at the situation Palace find themselves currently in and we are just 12 months behind a similar scenario
Forward planning it certainly is not
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Much of what you say here have actually been reasons for our success under Dyche.jojomk1 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 11:09 amAnd this is the problem with putting together an ageing squad
We have players not deemed good enough to start for us but we have no way of moving them on as few, if any, other clubs are interested in them
Meanwhile they take a sizeable chunk of our wages budget meaning we cannot afford to bring in younger players as an investment in the club's future
People are laughing at the situation Palace find themselves currently in and we are just 12 months behind a similar scenario
Forward planning it certainly is not
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I think this summer we may see a lot of deals between clubs that include player exchanges as well as cash.
If Burnley can utilise this with a deal or two it could help the situation.
I think Barnes looks as if he’s coming to the end of his time with us, but we will struggle to offload him. Stephens is an odd one, as others have suggested I don’t think he can play in a 2, so if any chance to offload him comes up then it may be desirable as I don’t think he offers anything in our system. Jay wasn’t great last season either and may be one that we could get a few million for given his past record with WBA in the championship, but who would be buying? I hope Jay still has something to offer but I think that’s the heart taking over the head their. That being said I can’t see us getting rid of that many because we already need a few in regardless . Interesting summer ahead.
If Burnley can utilise this with a deal or two it could help the situation.
I think Barnes looks as if he’s coming to the end of his time with us, but we will struggle to offload him. Stephens is an odd one, as others have suggested I don’t think he can play in a 2, so if any chance to offload him comes up then it may be desirable as I don’t think he offers anything in our system. Jay wasn’t great last season either and may be one that we could get a few million for given his past record with WBA in the championship, but who would be buying? I hope Jay still has something to offer but I think that’s the heart taking over the head their. That being said I can’t see us getting rid of that many because we already need a few in regardless . Interesting summer ahead.
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He’s not for SD going off this story.randomclaret2 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 11:40 amHe's not the only one apparently .Suggestions of some shenanigans behind the scenes with a few of Rangers younger players
https://www.rangersnews.uk/news/outspok ... ers-youth/
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Stephens Rodriguez Gudmundsson Barnes Cork are probably five that aren’t good enough right now
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JBG has been more than adequate when fit. Definitely should stay. He can’t be blamed for a Sheffield Utd thug taking him out nor for the Lincoln animal that crippled him.
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Not sure what’s so bad about any of that?minnieclaret wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 1:34 pmHe’s not for SD going off this story.
https://www.rangersnews.uk/news/outspok ... ers-youth/
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He's on a fortune with no resale value, he can't stay fit. Waste of resources. He should seriously consider who is paying his wages, us or Iceland. He plays more games for Iceland than he does for Burnley, sits on the treatment table here and then goes playing for Iceland.minnieclaret wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 1:54 pmJBG has been more than adequate when fit. Definitely should stay. He can’t be blamed for a Sheffield Utd thug taking him out nor for the Lincoln animal that crippled him.
His stats are a joke too, 1 assist in the last 2 seasons?
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4 games for Iceland 39 for Burnley - easy mistake to think 4 is higher than 39
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Add to that Bardsley and Pieters (who won't be contributing much this season unless from the bench)
And add to that Norris and Long who are still contracted for two more seasons
Our transfer policy/team, whoever is involved, have got us into this situation
Yes, we are still in the Premiership, and seriously well done to all for that, but last season clearly showed that the age, fitness and pace of certain players was having a detrimental effect on the team performance
But, as I said before, where is the forward planning when Ashley Young was seen by some as a marquee signing at 36 yrs
Collins is hopefully the start but two or three more players are needed before the current window closes to avoid a real problem in summer 2022
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jojomk1 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 2:37 pmAdd to that Bardsley and Pieters (who won't be contributing much this season unless from the bench)
And add to that Norris and Long who are still contracted for two more seasons
Our transfer policy/team, whoever is involved, have got us into this situation
Yes, we are still in the Premiership, and seriously well done to all for that, but last season clearly showed that the age, fitness and pace of certain players was having a detrimental effect on the team performance
But, as I said before, where is the forward planning when Ashley Young was seen by some as a marquee signing at 36 yrs
Collins is hopefully the start but two or three more players are needed before the current window closes to avoid a real problem in summer 2022
Name 1 person who had Young down as a marquee signing
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I like Pieters, Bardsley and Long, they offer excellent depth, cover and experience. I don't mind the age as much, it's the ability. Pieters has shown to be very good when he's played regardless of age. I actually think Pieters was unlucky to be behind Taylor for large parts of last season.jojomk1 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 2:37 pmAdd to that Bardsley and Pieters (who won't be contributing much this season unless from the bench)
And add to that Norris and Long who are still contracted for two more seasons
Our transfer policy/team, whoever is involved, have got us into this situation
Yes, we are still in the Premiership, and seriously well done to all for that, but last season clearly showed that the age and pace of certain players was having a detrimental effect on the team performance
But, as I said before, where is the forward planning when Ashley Young was seen by some as a marquee signing at 36 yrs
Collins is hopefully the start but two or three more players are needed before the current window closes to avoid a real problem in summer 2022
It's players like Rodriguez Stephens and Gudmundsson who need replacing first imo, not good enough when they play, no resale value and they're several of our highest earners.
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6 goals and 7 assists in his last 3 seasons. It’s not amazing. However, in a non injury ravaged time JBG is great! If his game time was managed with another RW we wouldn’t be having this discussion. Most teams rotate players, due to lack of investment and the nature of finance at Burnley over the years we haven’t had that luxury. Add in condensed fixture schedules etc. it’s not a great combination. He’s a very good player who is now 30. He has a few more years but his replacement should be brought in to learn under him and battle for his spot.KRBFC wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 2:29 pmHe's on a fortune with no resale value, he can't stay fit. Waste of resources. He should seriously consider who is paying his wages, us or Iceland. He plays more games for Iceland than he does for Burnley, sits on the treatment table here and then goes playing for Iceland.
His stats are a joke too, 1 assist in the last 2 seasons?
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He's got 1 assist in 2 full seasons, I don't know where you see a ''very good player'' tbh.WiscoClaret wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 3:28 pm6 goals and 7 assists in his last 3 seasons. It’s not amazing. However, in a non injury ravaged time JBG is great! If his game time was managed with another RW we wouldn’t be having this discussion. Most teams rotate players, due to lack of investment and the nature of finance at Burnley over the years we haven’t had that luxury. Add in condensed fixture schedules etc. it’s not a great combination. He’s a very good player who is now 30. He has a few more years but his replacement should be brought in to learn under him and battle for his spot.
a non injury ravaged JBG? no such thing unfortunately. He doesn't chose to be injured, same as Brady but it's about time we got rid and cut our losses, he's not worth the £40,000 p/w wage, it could be utilised far better, elsewhere.
It's irritating he keeps choosing to feature for Iceland when he isn't fit to play.
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You didn't answer the second part of the question.
If the answer is "me and a vocal minority of fans on the internet", as I suspect, it's not really as big an issue as jojo is saying it is. I'm pretty sure the manager thinks they are good enough.
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To be fair KRBFC be very rarely features for Iceland nowadays. Think it’s something like 5 times in the past three seasons.KRBFC wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 3:35 pmHe's got 1 assist in 2 full seasons, I don't know where you see a ''very good player'' tbh.
a non injury ravaged JBG? no such thing unfortunately. He doesn't chose to be injured, same as Brady but it's about time we got rid and cut our losses, he's not worth the £40,000 p/w wage, it could be utilised far better, elsewhere.
It's irritating he keeps choosing to feature for Iceland when he isn't fit to play.
I do agree though that the wage would be better spent elsewhere.
Let’s hope he gets an injury free pre season and pushes on.
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Depends what you class as good enough. I think they could play a part but in reality they are at the end of there premier league careers now.
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I think you lot need to get a room...
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It was a simple question to a statement someone made.
They claimed he would be sat on the bench at Liverpool and I don’t think he would. Perhaps you’d like to answer it...
Do you think he would make Liverpool’s bench next season?
I don’t see the problem with what I posted. He wouldn’t make Liverpool’s bench next season.
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Van Dijk
Matip
Konate
Gomez
That’s your four match day squad centre halves for Liverpool if it helps
Matip
Konate
Gomez
That’s your four match day squad centre halves for Liverpool if it helps
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That's why we need more defenders. We can't afford to concede many goalskentonclaret wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 9:26 amPlenty of talk about central defenders and full backs but we need some more creativity and goal threat in this team.
Burnley were among the 3 lowest scoring teams in the PL last season and the other 2 were relegated!
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Yes. In the words of Smashy & Nicie you are "quite literally bonkers, mate". You brighten up my days in so many ways. The "stalking and harassing" is simply my way of encouraging you, please accept it as the compliment it is.Jakubclaret wrote: ↑Sat Jun 26, 2021 10:15 pmDoes any particular reason exist why you continue to stalk & harass me on this forum despite me never initiating any approaches with you & me repeatedly blocking you & not wishing to maintain any communication with you, but bizarrely you seem to persist in a warped way.
PS if you have to repeatedly block me, you're probably not doing it right.
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easy mistake to take what I say quite literally, not surprised it's you though.claretonthecoast1882 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 2:32 pm4 games for Iceland 39 for Burnley - easy mistake to think 4 is higher than 39
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Ok guys, let's just calm things down a little. I'm not sure what has got in to people, but it seems to have become just 1 big bitching contest. We are all on the same side and most of us want our team to do well so less testosterone and more intelligent debate please
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Good post. Think it’s a bit unrealistic to expect intelligent debate thoughClaretAL wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 7:38 pmOk guys, let's just calm things down a little. I'm not sure what has got in to people, but it seems to have become just 1 big bitching contest. We are all on the same side and most of us want our team to do well so less testosterone and more intelligent debate please
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Not a link but that striker for Switzerland looks perfect for us
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According to the Daily Mail, we're interested in Swansea City right back Connor Roberts.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footb ... berts.html
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footb ... berts.html