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Post by kentonclaret » Mon Jul 05, 2021 10:42 am

Chris Wood could also have an interrupted season this time around with the World Cup Qualifying matches for NZ now being scheduled for early 2022 and a packed schedule of matches being squeezed into a short space of time. Before that of course will be his involvement in the Olympics and all of the travelling and quarantine that both events will contain.

As a main source of goals in a team amongst the divisions lowest scorers we could do with some incomings at the top end of the pitch.
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Post by Mattster » Mon Jul 05, 2021 10:43 am

burnley007 wrote:
Mon Jul 05, 2021 9:59 am
How much would Albrighton actually cost? £5m? £10m?

There's literally no point discussing whether he'd be worth it until we know how much it's costing! If he's £5m it's an absolutely brilliant signing...£10m+ and it's getting a bit ropey....
Also, what wages will he be on?

Proven player, sounds like a good lad, would fit right in at Barnfield, what's not to like?
In the current financial climate I'd say £5m is the absolute maximum we should be paying for him - there's no way we're getting a fee for him down the line and his wages, as an experienced EPL player, will be up there with our highest earners. For context Jack Harrison only just cost Leeds for £11.5m (possibly rising to £15m).

I think he'd be a good signing, would certainly get good game time and his delivery from the right would be akin to McNeil's on the left. He's not a player that relies on pace so I'd imagine he's got 2 or 3 seasons left in him at this level. Also, Leicester fans really want to keep him so that's a good sign.

Like I've said before from a financial perspective I'd love to see us sign Ryan Gauld instead (or as well) as he'd be lower wages, free and he's only 25. Then we save money to buy another player. But I admit he's more of a risk without EPL experience and better qualified people than myself must have decided he's not good enough for our level.

Apparently we're in for a more ambitious winger too, if that winger is younger with more potential/resale value then signing Albrighton for under £5m would be very good business.

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Post by Zlatan » Mon Jul 05, 2021 10:45 am

Danny Ings turned down 4 year contract at Southampton...

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Post by warksclaret » Mon Jul 05, 2021 10:46 am

dandeclaret wrote:
Mon Jul 05, 2021 10:27 am
Imagine.... as John Lennon once sang....... Imagine a world of balance, where you could have A solid spine of the team, and younger players dropped in to progress. Imagine a world where those players are Michael Keane, James Tarkowki, Dwight McNeill, Nick Pope and to a lesser extent Chris Wood and Ben Gibson.

Imagine a world where the first signing this summer was a 20 year old centre half full of potential, and the 2nd signing was a 31 year old proven premier league quality winger, with a bit of pace, and fantastic delivery, to provide quality in an area of the team that is short.

Imagine, if balance brought progress, imagine if you'd seen that progress over the last 8 years. Imagine that eh?
And I can hear SD singing DON'T LET ME DOWN, as well as PLEASE PLEASE ME

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Post by randomclaret2 » Mon Jul 05, 2021 10:47 am

dandeclaret wrote:
Mon Jul 05, 2021 10:27 am
Imagine.... as John Lennon once sang....... Imagine a world of balance, where you could have A solid spine of the team, and younger players dropped in to progress. Imagine a world where those players are Michael Keane, James Tarkowki, Dwight McNeill, Nick Pope and to a lesser extent Chris Wood and Ben Gibson.

Imagine a world where the first signing this summer was a 20 year old centre half full of potential, and the 2nd signing was a 31 year old proven premier league quality winger, with a bit of pace, and fantastic delivery, to provide quality in an area of the team that is short.

Imagine, if balance brought progress, imagine if you'd seen that progress over the last 8 years. Imagine that eh?
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Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Mon Jul 05, 2021 10:54 am

I see Southampton are going to be looking for a new striker.

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Post by jojomk1 » Mon Jul 05, 2021 11:34 am

Lundstram now linked with Rangers says D Mail (both BFC and Palace still interested) - am I allowed to say that on this thread

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Post by Jakubclaret » Mon Jul 05, 2021 11:38 am

dandeclaret wrote:
Mon Jul 05, 2021 10:27 am
Imagine.... as John Lennon once sang....... Imagine a world of balance, where you could have A solid spine of the team, and younger players dropped in to progress. Imagine a world where those players are Michael Keane, James Tarkowki, Dwight McNeill, Nick Pope and to a lesser extent Chris Wood and Ben Gibson.

Imagine a world where the first signing this summer was a 20 year old centre half full of potential, and the 2nd signing was a 31 year old proven premier league quality winger, with a bit of pace, and fantastic delivery, to provide quality in an area of the team that is short.

Imagine, if balance brought progress, imagine if you'd seen that progress over the last 8 years. Imagine that eh?
Does that same imagination extend to the season we’ve just left where we finished lower than we ever have done bar when we’ve been relegated?

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Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Mon Jul 05, 2021 11:40 am

Jakubclaret wrote:
Mon Jul 05, 2021 11:38 am
Does that same imagination extend to the season we’ve just left where we finished lower than we ever have done bar when we’ve been relegated?
You could have kept it shorter and put where we finished 11 points above the relegation zone

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Post by jojomk1 » Mon Jul 05, 2021 11:43 am

KRAFTH FREE TO LEAVE

Newcastle United are willing to part company with defender Emil Krafth this summer, reports The Sun.

The 26-year-old Sweden international could be moved on to make way for one of 44 transfer targets shortlisted by Magpies boss Steve Bruce.

Now that is a proper recruitment team at work

There's going to be plenty of miles covered scouting those 44 guys ;)

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Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Mon Jul 05, 2021 11:44 am

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Mon Jul 05, 2021 11:40 am
You could have kept it shorter and put where we finished 11 points above the relegation zone
Ah but that doesn't sound as miserable

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Post by Jakubclaret » Mon Jul 05, 2021 11:44 am

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Mon Jul 05, 2021 11:40 am
You could have kept it shorter and put where we finished 11 points above the relegation zone
But the trend as gone south, maybe a 1 off we’ll see where we finish next season & then we’ll know but last season wasn’t an improvement on previous seasons that’s the point I was making, you could argue the buffer was down to Fulham being so poor, are we hoping Norwich etc will be as bad next time around which isn’t guaranteed.

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Post by dandeclaret » Mon Jul 05, 2021 11:49 am

Jakubclaret wrote:
Mon Jul 05, 2021 11:44 am
But the trend as gone south, maybe a 1 off we’ll see where we finish next season & then we’ll know but last season wasn’t an improvement on previous seasons that’s the point I was making, you could argue the buffer was down to Fulham being so poor, are we hoping Norwich etc will be as bad next time around which isn’t guaranteed.
Trend? How many data points in your "Trend"

Burnley FC points premier league, last 5 seasons

40, 54, 40, 54, 39........ which points are you taking for your trend?

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Post by Jakubclaret » Mon Jul 05, 2021 11:55 am

dandeclaret wrote:
Mon Jul 05, 2021 11:49 am
Trend? How many data points in your "Trend"

Burnley FC points premier league, last 5 seasons

40, 54, 40, 54, 39........ which points are you taking for your trend?
A pattern then, call it whatever you like, in terms of league position we finished lower than we ever have done before apart from the seasons where we actually finished in the bottom 3, am I right or am I wrong? Based on top flight.

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Mon Jul 05, 2021 11:57 am

dandeclaret wrote:
Mon Jul 05, 2021 11:49 am
Trend? How many data points in your "Trend"

Burnley FC points premier league, last 5 seasons

40, 54, 40, 54, 39........ which points are you taking for your trend?
Come on dande surely every Burnley fan could see that last season was a real struggle. Luckily the three teams that went down are some of the worst the league has ever seen.

We finished a good amount of points clear but we ended the season losing 7 of the last 9. Whilst relying on wood to score a third of our goals. This is not going to get any easier for Dyche with the oldest squad in the league. I don’t think anyone is saying we have not done really well. It’s just that this squad is not like previous seasons.

Let’s hope Dyche has a good summer and we start the season well.

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Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Mon Jul 05, 2021 11:57 am

dandeclaret wrote:
Mon Jul 05, 2021 11:49 am
Trend? How many data points in your "Trend"

Burnley FC points premier league, last 5 seasons

40, 54, 40, 54, 39........ which points are you taking for your trend?

Don't do it, get out while you can. :D

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Post by dandeclaret » Mon Jul 05, 2021 12:00 pm

39 points wouldn't have been relegated in any of the 6 seasons Burnley have been in the premier league, and would have been at least a 4 point buffer, often 5, occasionally 6. This year it was 11 and more comfortable.

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Post by Jakubclaret » Mon Jul 05, 2021 12:02 pm

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Mon Jul 05, 2021 11:57 am
Don't do it, get out while you can. :D
Are you caffeinated up yet or is your imagination still running riot listening to dandeclarets song recommendations, I’m still waiting?

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Post by dandeclaret » Mon Jul 05, 2021 12:15 pm

Jakubclaret wrote:
Mon Jul 05, 2021 12:07 pm
My ideas make logical sense supported with valid sensible reasoning, stop deflecting please who’s suggested players hitting 30 are ready for knackers yard?
I struggle to find the logic on most occasions to be honest. At best, I'd say your views are often contrarian.

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Post by Guller Bull » Mon Jul 05, 2021 12:29 pm

Any transfer news?
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Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Mon Jul 05, 2021 12:31 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Mon Jul 05, 2021 11:57 am
Come on dande surely every Burnley fan could see that last season was a real struggle. Luckily the three teams that went down are some of the worst the league has ever seen.

We finished a good amount of points clear but we ended the season losing 7 of the last 9. Whilst relying on wood to score a third of our goals. This is not going to get any easier for Dyche with the oldest squad in the league. I don’t think anyone is saying we have not done really well. It’s just that this squad is not like previous seasons.

Let’s hope Dyche has a good summer and we start the season well.
Lots of teams struggled for form and fitness due to the disjointed seasons and summer breaks.

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Post by Juan Tanamera » Mon Jul 05, 2021 12:46 pm

I wonder if this thread will descend into the usual nonsense? :roll:

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Post by Bigvince » Mon Jul 05, 2021 12:47 pm

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Post by Spijed » Mon Jul 05, 2021 12:48 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Mon Jul 05, 2021 11:57 am
Come on dande surely every Burnley fan could see that last season was a real struggle. Luckily the three teams that went down are some of the worst the league has ever seen.

We finished a good amount of points clear but we ended the season losing 7 of the last 9. Whilst relying on wood to score a third of our goals. This is not going to get any easier for Dyche with the oldest squad in the league. I don’t think anyone is saying we have not done really well. It’s just that this squad is not like previous seasons.

Let’s hope Dyche has a good summer and we start the season well.
So the first season, where we only won away at Crystal Palace wasn't as much of a struggle, nor the season whilst playing in Europe?

As for the three relegated sides. It doesn't matter if they were poor. We got more points than required to stop up. Even if they'd have got a similar number of points to Bournemouth we were safe.

For all the talk of struggling, we've never had a poor season compared to the likes of Brighton, Villa etc.

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Mon Jul 05, 2021 12:56 pm

Spijed wrote:
Mon Jul 05, 2021 12:48 pm
So the first season, where we only won away at Crystal Palace wasn't as much of a struggle, nor the season whilst playing in Europe?

As for the three relegated sides. It doesn't matter if they were poor. We got more points than required to stop up. Even if they'd have got a similar number of points to Bournemouth we were safe.

For all the talk of struggling, we've never had a poor season compared to the likes of Brighton, Villa etc.
We definitely struggled in both them seasons. I am simply highlighting that our squad was in a better position then. The core of our team was younger we were able to build around them with older players that could do a job for a short time.

We are now in a position where the core of our squad is approaching the end of there premier league careers.
I do not think we are in a position where we continue to compliment our existing core with old players. It will get to a point (possibly in 12 months) where we will have to change large swaithes of the squad (6-7-8 people in one window).

Like I said I would take Albrighton but only if we have a young player coming in as well

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Post by jtv » Mon Jul 05, 2021 1:06 pm

Juan Tanamera wrote:
Mon Jul 05, 2021 12:46 pm
I wonder if this thread will descend into the usual nonsense? :roll:
It already has :(
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Post by Murger » Mon Jul 05, 2021 1:15 pm

Rangers have signed John Lundstram.

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Post by Zlatan » Mon Jul 05, 2021 1:16 pm

Murger wrote:
Mon Jul 05, 2021 1:15 pm
Rangers have signed John Lundstram.
Bullet dodged
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Post by ClaretTony » Mon Jul 05, 2021 1:18 pm

I've just come back on to mention Lundstram but beaten to it.

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Post by ClaretTony » Mon Jul 05, 2021 1:19 pm

Juan Tanamera wrote:
Mon Jul 05, 2021 12:46 pm
I wonder if this thread will descend into the usual nonsense? :roll:
Then please report if it does - help us to keep things as they should be
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Post by Jakubclaret » Mon Jul 05, 2021 1:39 pm

Albrighton would be a very solid addition on every level.
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Post by MACCA » Mon Jul 05, 2021 1:46 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Mon Jul 05, 2021 1:19 pm
Then please report if it does - help us to keep things as they should be
It's the same 1 or 2 every thread, whether it's about transfers, tactics, the burnley board or the weather.
Doesnt matter who starts a thread, or even what it's about, it's usually a slight insult to start ( that's the bait ) then off it goes.
could start an argument in a phone box.

Enough people have mentioned it, most ave managed to ignore them, but some still get lured in, and it ends up like this.

I popped on thinking wow 50 posts, we might have some news, what a waste of time wading through all the bickering.
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Post by ClaretTony » Mon Jul 05, 2021 1:49 pm

MACCA wrote:
Mon Jul 05, 2021 1:46 pm
It's the same 1 or 2 every thread, whether it's about transfers, tactics, the burnley board or the weather.
Doesnt matter who starts a thread, or even what it's about, it's usually a slight insult to start ( that's the bait ) then off it goes.
could start an argument in a phone box.

Enough people have mentioned it, most ave managed to ignore them, but some still get lured in, and it ends up like this.

I popped on thinking wow 50 posts, we might have some news, what a waste of time wading through all the bickering.
I just don't have time to wade through threads and posters just won't help when all it needs is a report with a few words why. Then we can get rid of the constant bickerers and trolls.
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Post by Woodleyclaret » Mon Jul 05, 2021 1:54 pm

Tony just delete any posts that are offensive or nonsense bickering.

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Post by Tall Paul » Mon Jul 05, 2021 2:10 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Mon Jul 05, 2021 1:49 pm
I just don't have time to wade through threads and posters just won't help when all it needs is a report with a few words why. Then we can get rid of the constant bickerers and trolls.
What sort of thing warrants a report? There are no site rules or posting guidelines.

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Post by Jakubclaret » Mon Jul 05, 2021 2:11 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Mon Jul 05, 2021 12:56 pm
We definitely struggled in both them seasons. I am simply highlighting that our squad was in a better position then. The core of our team was younger we were able to build around them with older players that could do a job for a short time.

We are now in a position where the core of our squad is approaching the end of there premier league careers.
I do not think we are in a position where we continue to compliment our existing core with old players. It will get to a point (possibly in 12 months) where we will have to change large swaithes of the squad (6-7-8 people in one window).

Like I said I would take Albrighton but only if we have a young player coming in as well
It’s definitely a problem on the horizon for sure, if you offset age wise so some of an equilibrium is established you’ll maintain the average age, in fairness signing NC in terms of age could suggest that the future policy is slowly evolving from the old regime & the realisation of signing younger players & the overall value attached is starting to dawn.

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Post by Zlatan » Mon Jul 05, 2021 2:23 pm

Tall Paul wrote:
Mon Jul 05, 2021 2:10 pm
What sort of thing warrants a report? There are no site rules or posting guidelines.
viewtopic.php?style=2&f=2&t=50797

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Post by Tall Paul » Mon Jul 05, 2021 2:31 pm

Those links don't really help identify what should be reported in this thread. I don't think there are any political, religious, race or COVID related posts here.

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Post by NewClaret » Mon Jul 05, 2021 2:36 pm

I’ve just read two pages of bickering about whether Marc Albrighton would be a good signing despite it being highly unlikely he’ll actually come here and unanimous agreement that he would.

Only us lot could do that :lol:

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Post by KRBFC » Mon Jul 05, 2021 3:20 pm

Well that was a disappointment, I came here to read 2 new pages hoping for some transfer news and read 2 pages of Claretonthecoast whining and bickering again
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Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Mon Jul 05, 2021 3:47 pm

:D

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Post by Taffy on the wing » Mon Jul 05, 2021 3:50 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Mon Jul 05, 2021 7:05 am
I don’t think anyone is suggesting that at all.

I think they are pretty fair comments about Albrighton. He’s a good player but he’s approaching the end of his career. As are many others in our squad. Some fans mocked palaces rebuild this summer. We are going to have the oldest squad in the prem this season with over 7-8 of them out of contract next year.

For me Albrighton is a cheap short term fix that our previous owners got slaughtered for.

I would take Albrighton but I think we need to start getting in starting eleven young players.
What part of the Nathan Collins signing do you not understand?

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Mon Jul 05, 2021 3:53 pm

Taffy on the wing wrote:
Mon Jul 05, 2021 3:50 pm
What part of the Nathan Collins signing do you not understand?
Collins is a start. We need another 4-5 of these type signings over the next 2 windows.

I have already said I would have Albrighton but I just think at some point we need to address the age of our squad. Signings like Albrighton for me just push the issue 12 months down the line.

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Post by Hedontplayforyou » Mon Jul 05, 2021 5:22 pm

Why don’t we stay calm and see who else we bring in alongside Albrighton (if indeed that one happens), maybe just maybe we will sign another who is much younger and can be bedded in at a better rate whilst Albrighton(possibly), Dwight and JBG take centre stage at the beginning of the season?

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Post by Pearcey » Mon Jul 05, 2021 5:46 pm

I was keen for us to sign Young but I’d be delighted with Albrighton. Exactly the sort of player that could slot straight into the side. Hope we can get it over the line.

I’d like to see another winger and centre half in Tarky leaves.

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Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion

Post by ClaretAL » Mon Jul 05, 2021 7:20 pm

I think people loose sight of the promising youth we already have. I think Richardson has played right wing from recent viewings although was supposed to be out and out forward.

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Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion

Post by Dark Cloud » Tue Jul 06, 2021 9:24 am

I can't believe how far down the front page this thread has fallen!!! Crikey, there really is nowt happening is there!!!???

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Post by Firthy » Tue Jul 06, 2021 9:35 am

Dark Cloud wrote:
Tue Jul 06, 2021 9:24 am
I can't believe how far down the front page this thread has fallen!!! Crikey, there really is nowt happening is there!!!???
There's been plenty happening on this thread, just not all about transfers :shock: :lol:
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Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion

Post by boatshed bill » Tue Jul 06, 2021 9:42 am

ClaretAL wrote:
Mon Jul 05, 2021 7:20 pm
I think people loose sight of the promising youth we already have. I think Richardson has played right wing from recent viewings although was supposed to be out and out forward.
Richardson doesn't play on the wing.
also we would be looking for someone with certain defensive qualities I imagine.

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Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion

Post by minnieclaret » Tue Jul 06, 2021 1:02 pm

I think we are waiting until the players we want are out of the Euros.
Shhhhh!!

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