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Post by TsarBomba » Sat Jun 12, 2021 1:25 pm

Some posters really need to get over how old a player is.

It’s increasingly irrelevant, with all the sports science and medical stuff going on behind the scenes.

You don’t play regularly for one of the biggest teams in Europe, and under a manager like Conte, if you are not supremely fit. That’s a basic requirement.

Young’s winning mentality alone makes this an absolute no brainer.

Get him signed.
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Post by duncandisorderly » Sat Jun 12, 2021 1:29 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoZXEbo96Lg

Those who think Ashley Young would be a bad signing can eat (bird) ****.

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Post by Jakubs Tash » Sat Jun 12, 2021 1:29 pm

Quicknick wrote:
Sat Jun 12, 2021 12:28 pm
Collins, Worrell and Young would suit me nicely.
Agreed…..as long as there are 2 or 3 others to come.

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Post by djemba-djemba » Sat Jun 12, 2021 1:29 pm

2 year deal 😆

New nippy full back/ winger who will be nearly 40 when his contract expires (might actually make it to 40 cause we’d probably offer him another new one at the end of it).

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Post by duncandisorderly » Sat Jun 12, 2021 1:31 pm

The only thing about his age that is anywhere near a bad thing is that he has zero sell on value, so we get no financial return on his wages.

Unless he shunts us up a couple of places each season, that would more than pay for himself.

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Post by Jakubs Tash » Sat Jun 12, 2021 1:32 pm

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:
Sat Jun 12, 2021 12:37 pm
As above age irrelevant. Improves the squad and a better option than the likes of Brady. As long as we follow it up with some younger signings.
Agreed. Great option to have on the bench and could start in a number of positions. Great pro and very fit.

Not sure if he would be classed as a winger option now but, if he is, then I’m hoping we still bring at least one other winger to the club this summer.

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Post by Tall Paul » Sat Jun 12, 2021 1:42 pm

jrgbfc wrote:
Sat Jun 12, 2021 1:17 pm
Thiago Silva hasn't played regularly at Chelsea, and City's squad is so good that Fernandinho gets plenty of games off.
Thiago played more or less as many minutes as any other other CB at Chelsea last season.

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Post by ClaretTony » Sat Jun 12, 2021 1:44 pm

djemba-djemba wrote:
Sat Jun 12, 2021 1:29 pm
2 year deal 😆

New nippy full back/ winger who will be nearly 40 when his contract expires (might actually make it to 40 cause we’d probably offer him another new one at the end of it).
If we did sign him and it was a two year deal then he would be 37.
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Post by KefkaClaret » Sat Jun 12, 2021 1:55 pm

The Italian league is a lot slower than the prem. what 36 year outfielder is a regular starter in the prem?

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Post by ClaretTony » Sat Jun 12, 2021 1:57 pm

TsarBomba wrote:
Sat Jun 12, 2021 1:25 pm
Some posters really need to get over how old a player is.

It’s increasingly irrelevant, with all the sports science and medical stuff going on behind the scenes.

You don’t play regularly for one of the biggest teams in Europe, and under a manager like Conte, if you are not supremely fit. That’s a basic requirement.

Young’s winning mentality alone makes this an absolute no brainer.

Get him signed.
Sums it up perfectly

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Post by Tall Paul » Sat Jun 12, 2021 1:57 pm

KefkaClaret wrote:
Sat Jun 12, 2021 1:55 pm
The Italian league is a lot slower than the prem. what 36 year outfielder is a regular starter in the prem?
Thiago Silva and Fernandinho

Do keep up.
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Post by ClaretTony » Sat Jun 12, 2021 2:02 pm

AlwaysClaret wrote:
Sat Jun 12, 2021 1:58 pm
Just seen this pop up

https://www.footballinsider247.com/sour ... r-accepted
Came in on trial but believed he’d failed to impress in the u23s.

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Post by Rileybobs » Sat Jun 12, 2021 2:03 pm

Tall Paul wrote:
Sat Jun 12, 2021 1:57 pm
Thiago Silva and Fernandinho

Do keep up.
Yeah, but apart from Brazilians who play for Chelsea and City?
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Post by Vegas Claret » Sat Jun 12, 2021 2:17 pm

Ashley Young wins as many free kicks as Grealish does, it's a huge part of our game

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Post by Pearcey » Sat Jun 12, 2021 2:39 pm

David Anderson says we’ve made a fresh bid for Nathan Collins.

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Post by yatesybase » Sat Jun 12, 2021 2:45 pm

If Ashley Young can contribute to us staying in the league with assists and the odd goal - Doesn’t matter what age he is. What I see large amounts of PL Experience, Great fitness level and a desire to win !

A Dyche player - No brainer on a free and might be on a little more than Ben Gibson ! Who offered nothing
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Post by Vegas Claret » Sat Jun 12, 2021 2:51 pm

TsarBomba wrote:
Sat Jun 12, 2021 1:25 pm
Some posters really need to get over how old a player is.

It’s increasingly irrelevant, with all the sports science and medical stuff going on behind the scenes.

You don’t play regularly for one of the biggest teams in Europe, and under a manager like Conte, if you are not supremely fit. That’s a basic requirement.

Young’s winning mentality alone makes this an absolute no brainer.

Get him signed.
some on here would complain if we signed Ronaldo (current one!!) because he's 36

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Post by RVclaret » Sat Jun 12, 2021 2:52 pm

Would be happy with Young on a free. Suits Dyche and our system. Do want another younger, creative wide man too, though. Collins + Young would be a great start to the summer window if we pull them off.

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Post by Juan Tanamera » Sat Jun 12, 2021 3:00 pm

Does THAT bird still follow Ashley Young around?

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Post by Vegas Claret » Sat Jun 12, 2021 3:07 pm

even at 36 he would be a gigantic upgrade on Brady

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Post by Braindead » Sat Jun 12, 2021 3:11 pm

jrgbfc wrote:
Sat Jun 12, 2021 12:36 pm
Aye and no doubt the same happy clappers were telling us what a good signing Stephen Reid was at the time.
And doom mongers like you were no doubt saying how too old and past it the likes of Grezza, Barton, Kevin Ball, John McGreal, Mitchell Thomas, Frank Sinclair etc were when we signed them. All of which were excellent signings.
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Post by ewanrob » Sat Jun 12, 2021 3:12 pm

Young got a bit of bite aswell, leaders on the pitch is what we need.

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Post by jojomk1 » Sat Jun 12, 2021 3:14 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Sat Jun 12, 2021 1:44 pm
If we did sign him and it was a two year deal then he would be 37.
He would be 37 years and almost 11 months when any two year deal ended - just saying to clarify any issues

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Post by superdimitri » Sat Jun 12, 2021 3:21 pm

We don't have the money to make numerous multi million signings so getting some old players in on a free is only a good thing imo.

And it's Ashley Young. Very different from Crouch or Walters. Would be an amazing to have someone like him around the squad.

If the club think his body is up to it then I'll place trust in that.

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Post by ClaretTony » Sat Jun 12, 2021 3:22 pm

jojomk1 wrote:
Sat Jun 12, 2021 3:14 pm
He would be 37 years and almost 11 months when any two year deal ended - just saying to clarify any issues
Which is not nearly 40 which is what I was responding to with that post if you’d bothered to look.
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Post by Sheedyclaret » Sat Jun 12, 2021 3:30 pm

Be a very good signing great pro..

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Post by Vegas Claret » Sat Jun 12, 2021 3:35 pm

you don't play for Conte unless you are super fit, his age is not an issue at all
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Post by minnieclaret » Sat Jun 12, 2021 4:07 pm

Ashley Young with all his experience could only be good for Dwight to be around.
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Post by SGr » Sat Jun 12, 2021 4:12 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Sat Jun 12, 2021 3:35 pm
you don't play for Conte unless you are super fit, his age is not an issue at all
This is a good point

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Post by boatshed bill » Sat Jun 12, 2021 4:52 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Sat Jun 12, 2021 3:35 pm
you don't play for Conte unless you are super fit, his age is not an issue at all
To be fair, though, he won't be playing for Conte next season so this is irrelevant.
Anyone know why he is moving on?

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Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Sat Jun 12, 2021 5:13 pm

boatshed bill wrote:
Sat Jun 12, 2021 4:52 pm
To be fair, though, he won't be playing for Conte next season so this is irrelevant.
Anyone know why he is moving on?
Wants a longer deal than what Inter Milan are offering at a wild guess.

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Post by ClaretTony » Sat Jun 12, 2021 5:16 pm

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:
Sat Jun 12, 2021 5:13 pm
Wants a longer deal than what Inter Milan are offering at a wild guess.
It’s a bit chaotic there but he has been offered a deal now.

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Post by ClaretMov » Sat Jun 12, 2021 5:19 pm

He's on 91k at Inter can't see him taking a 40/50 percent pay cut

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Post by boatshed bill » Sat Jun 12, 2021 5:22 pm

ClaretMov wrote:
Sat Jun 12, 2021 5:19 pm
He's on 91k at Inter can't see him taking a 40/50 percent pay cut
Wow.
And offered a new deal on that sort of money?

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Post by KRBFC » Sat Jun 12, 2021 5:23 pm

ClaretMov wrote:
Sat Jun 12, 2021 5:19 pm
He's on 91k at Inter can't see him taking a 40/50 percent pay cut
There are many ways around what you pay weekly, he’d also earn more here in two years than he would with Inter in one year

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Post by Rileybobs » Sat Jun 12, 2021 5:23 pm

ClaretMov wrote:
Sat Jun 12, 2021 5:19 pm
He's on 91k at Inter can't see him taking a 40/50 percent pay cut
£50k per week for 104 weeks is better than £91k for 52 weeks.

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Post by KRBFC » Sat Jun 12, 2021 5:25 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Sat Jun 12, 2021 5:23 pm
£50k per week for 104 weeks is better than £91k for 52 weeks.
Beat you to it ;)
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Post by Rileybobs » Sat Jun 12, 2021 5:27 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Sat Jun 12, 2021 5:25 pm
Beat you to it ;)
I was busy working out how many weeks there are in two years.
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Post by boatshed bill » Sat Jun 12, 2021 5:30 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Sat Jun 12, 2021 5:23 pm
£50k per week for 104 weeks is better than £91k for 52 weeks.
Except that he could earn a fair old wedge in the 2nd 52 weeks.

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Post by Rileybobs » Sat Jun 12, 2021 5:34 pm

boatshed bill wrote:
Sat Jun 12, 2021 5:30 pm
Except that he could earn a fair old wedge in the 2nd 52 weeks.
That’s not guaranteed if he’s only offered a 1 year contract.

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Post by KRBFC » Sat Jun 12, 2021 5:37 pm

boatshed bill wrote:
Sat Jun 12, 2021 5:30 pm
Except that he could earn a fair old wedge in the 2nd 52 weeks.
Thats without any bonuses involved from two years here too and our bonuses are hefty I think. Players like stability I assume he has a home close from his time at United and with Conte gone theres no guarantee the new manager will play him as often.

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Post by boatshed bill » Sat Jun 12, 2021 5:43 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Sat Jun 12, 2021 5:37 pm
Thats without any bonuses involved from two years here too and our bonuses are hefty I think. Players like stability I assume he has a home close from his time at United and with Conte gone theres no guarantee the new manager will play him as often.
At his age I know which I'd take.

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Post by Guller Bull » Sat Jun 12, 2021 6:11 pm

It's a no from me.

Happy to be slapped by a fish at the end of his stint with us but nah!

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Post by Woodleyclaret » Sat Jun 12, 2021 7:31 pm

Signing older players with heart and character sometimes works
Wright , Mitch Thomas and Grezza all improved our team.
I don't think a player renowned for playing when he was arsed fits in to this category
I wouldn't touch Young at any price

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Post by ClaretTony » Sat Jun 12, 2021 7:42 pm

ClaretMov wrote:
Sat Jun 12, 2021 5:19 pm
He's on 91k at Inter can't see him taking a 40/50 percent pay cut
How do people always seem to know what people are earning?
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Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Sat Jun 12, 2021 7:45 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Sat Jun 12, 2021 7:42 pm
How do people always seem to know what people are earning?
Probably off Championship Manager.
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Post by k90bfc » Sat Jun 12, 2021 7:47 pm

Just remember Keith Newton and Peter Noble when they signed for us,Bring It On,full trust in Sean if he wants him!
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Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Sat Jun 12, 2021 7:51 pm

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:
Sat Jun 12, 2021 7:45 pm
Probably off Championship Manager.
Fifa actually :roll:

Champs manager is only if you want to know what Cherno Samba was earnings :-)

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Post by ClaretTony » Sat Jun 12, 2021 7:53 pm

k90bfc wrote:
Sat Jun 12, 2021 7:47 pm
Just remember Keith Newton and Peter Noble when they signed for us,Bring It On,full trust in Sean if he wants him!
Keith was 31 when we signed him and that was in the days when players didn’t go on so long. We had him for nearly six years and he played over 250 games for us.

Tommy Hutchison was 35 when he arrived. He played all 92 league game over the next two seasons and then played around 200 games for Swansea after he left.

It’s less of a risk today too with all the sports science.
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