According to Leanne Bagnall the medical is booked for Collins.

Maybe this will be completed imminently

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 22, 2021 8:55 am

According to Leanne Bagnall the medical is booked for Collins.

Maybe this will be completed imminently

Who is that? link?

KRBFC wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 22, 2021 8:58 am

Who is that? link?

Football league world think someone posted the link earlier.

Looks like I am incorrect. Let me find the right link, just seen the Stoke page on Twitter posted it.

Don't know about the veracity of these sources but anyway..

Stoke City are on the cusp of agreeing a £12m deal that will see Nathan Collins move to Burnley, a source has exclusively revealed to Football League World.

https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/sourc ... agreement/

Collins, 20, is ‘on the brink’ of sealing a £12million transfer to Burnley this summer, claims Football League World.

https://the72.co.uk/240164/burnley-set- ... n-collins/

Oops! Already posted on the last page..

Guys, a plea

If you are going to copy info from twitter, then its not hard to check how many followers the source has first before posting it on here.

If they are a legit source, their follower count will be a good guide

And regarding the financial info being highlighted on here

I know people don't like it, but the reality is that is the key to how we can perform in the transfer market.

You can either live in the real world of football finance (which isn't going to be pleasant reading if you think we've millions in the bank) or you can keep pretending that FM is real life.

Hiding from the reality doesn't help anyone

KRBFC wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 22, 2021 8:58 am

Who is that? link?

I think Leanne bagnall is a reporter in Stoke

Telegraph reporting wolves and West Ham interested in Tarks

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/20 ... 1624351901

Down_Rover wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 22, 2021 9:48 am

I think Leanne bagnall is a reporter in Stoke

The name appears after a camera emoji so presumably it is just crediting her with the picture of Collins used in the article?

I assumed we’d seen the last of Tarky to be honest. It sounds like Collins could be a good replacement. I think Worrall could come as well.

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 22, 2021 9:55 am

Telegraph reporting wolves and West Ham interested in Tarks

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/20 ... 1624351901

Thought he’d already signed for Leicester according to one of their fans, or was destined for WHU according to theirs.

I’d rather we sell to either over Wolves, given I’d consider them direct competition, but good to have another club in the mix!

https://twitter.com/JPercyTelegraph/sta ... 7229009925

You can take John Percy to the bank on transfers

Collins fee agreed

That’s excellent news.

Would selling Tarks and bringing in Collins and Williams from Liverpool be such a bad deal?

Lancasterclaret wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 22, 2021 9:22 am

You can either live in the real world of football finance (which isn't going to be pleasant reading if you think we've millions in the bank) or you can keep pretending that FM is real life.

Hiding from the reality doesn't help anyone

I don't understand this part, the accounts showed before the takeover £50m+ cash was in the clubs bank account, sat there, reserves built up. That is factual information, no? is that not reality?

Now i'm not a financial expert, I have no idea how much of this cash remains after the takeover so maybe an expert like yourself can educate me.

Lancasterclaret wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 22, 2021 10:25 am

https://twitter.com/JPercyTelegraph/sta ... 7229009925

You can take John Percy to the bank on transfers

Collins fee agreed

Let’s hope it’s done quick before we get another club matching it.

Firthy wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 22, 2021 10:44 am

Would selling Tarks and bringing in Collins and Williams from Liverpool be such a bad deal?

Is Williams a centre-back?
Incidentally, his brother is at Burnley.

Aren't you cherry picking the info there a bit though?

Its after the take over, which we know has been partly funded by the cash in the bank, and its after a couple of tough years financially

And the wage to turnover ratio trend is clear to see (70% is the recommended I seem to recall)

All I'm saying is that the financial realities are instinctually linked to our ability to operate in the transfer market, and that it deserves to be on this thread

boatshed bill wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 22, 2021 10:49 am

Is Williams a centre-back?
Incidentally, his brother is at Burnley.

Apparently a right back who can also play in the centre which didn't work out too bad for Mee

KRBFC wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 22, 2021 8:53 am

He'll be our new right back imo, I think Dyche would've played Dawson right back too, like Pulis. Added height on set pieces, could be really beneficial.

I doubt very much that Sean Dyche would have played Craig Dawson at full back.

Lancasterclaret wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 22, 2021 10:25 am

https://twitter.com/JPercyTelegraph/sta ... 7229009925

You can take John Percy to the bank on transfers

Collins fee agreed

I hadn't seen this tweet but just been directed to it. Absolutely spot on for me Lancaster, if John Percy says it then it is almost certain.

Maybe i am missing something here, where has the Neco Williams link come from?

Lancasterclaret wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 22, 2021 9:22 am

Guys, a plea

If you are going to copy info from twitter, then its not hard to check how many followers the source has first before posting it on here.

If they are a legit source, their follower count will be a good guide

And regarding the financial info being highlighted on here

I know people don't like it, but the reality is that is the key to how we can perform in the transfer market.

You can either live in the real world of football finance (which isn't going to be pleasant reading if you think we've millions in the bank) or you can keep pretending that FM is real life.

Hiding from the reality doesn't help anyone

It's a transfer rumours thread. The clue is in the title.
If you don't like people posting rumours from people with about ten followers on Twitter I suggest you are in the wrong place.
Or should we have two threads, legitimate rumours and unsubstantiated rumours?

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 22, 2021 9:55 am

Telegraph reporting wolves and West Ham interested in Tarks

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/20 ... 1624351901

We need a bidding war for Tarks. The last year of his contract, and West Ham the only interest would see a ridiculously low offer. I've seen £15mill mentioned. I'd rather let him go for free than let them have our pants down. By next summer WH could well have moved on and bought a.n.other centre back, and at a year older the grass might not be so green on the other side for Tarks.

Conroy92 wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 22, 2021 10:59 am

It's a transfer rumours thread. The clue is in the title.
If you don't like people posting rumours from people with about ten followers on Twitter I suggest you are in the wrong place.
Or should we have two threads, legitimate rumours and unsubstantiated rumours?

Ah, so you want to read made up rumours?

Got it

Whatever floats your boat at a guess

gandhisflipflop wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 22, 2021 10:59 am

Maybe i am missing something here, where has the Neco Williams link come from?

Story came out yesterday, The Athletic was one

He wants regular football and apparently Liverpool will let him go for £10m

Leeds, Southampton, Aston Villa and ourselves are supposedly interested. Might need his brother to have a word with him

Lancasterclaret wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 22, 2021 11:02 am

Ah, so you want to read made up rumours?

Got it

Whatever floats your boat at a guess

does twitter popularity improve accuracy of rumours?

Better than whether it should be rumours from a spotty kid on his hols / the likes of John Percy, or the monies available for transfers and our finances - would be for this not to be another thread that ends in bloody squabbles.

Good news - John Percy is almost always on the money.

And, if I'm allowed to post something positive about Burnley and transfer business, well done to those involved.

Of course we will need to wait and see if this will be a good signing but, based on Joe Rodon's transfer last summer and Stoke supporters extremely high regard of Nathan Collins, it would seem that £12m (no matter which way the transfer is structured) is a bit of a steal.

Zlatan wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 22, 2021 11:05 am

does twitter popularity improve accuracy of rumours?

No but it makes it more believable when somebody like Percy with 121000 followers says it as opposed to somebody like me with 121

Zlatan wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 22, 2021 11:05 am

does twitter popularity improve accuracy of rumours?

Nope

But its a useful guide

wilks_bfc wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 22, 2021 11:05 am

Story came out yesterday, The Athletic was one

He wants regular football and apparently Liverpool will let him go for £10m

Leeds, Southampton, Aston Villa and ourselves are supposedly interested. Might need his brother to have a word with him

Thanks wilks. I missed that.

Providing we don't get priced out by any other clubs on Collins, Ben Davies would be the ideal back up if Tarks goes

Lancasterclaret wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 22, 2021 11:02 am

Ah, so you want to read made up rumours?

Got it

Whatever floats your boat at a guess

I hate to let you into a little secret but 99% of what you read is made up rumours in the media & you can’t always verify the authenticity of the information based upon the twitter following count.

wilks_bfc wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 22, 2021 11:08 am

No but it makes it more believable when somebody like Percy with 121000 followers says it as opposed to somebody like me with 121

121 followers, show off

Jakubs Tash wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 22, 2021 11:08 am

Good news - John Percy is almost always on the money.

And, if I'm allowed to post something positive about Burnley and transfer business, well done to those involved.

Of course we will need to wait and see if this will be a good signing but, based on Joe Rodon's transfer last summer and Stoke supporters extremely high regard of Nathan Collins, it would seem that £12m (no matter which way the transfer is structured) is a bit of a steal.

He hasn’t signed yet

They're all rumours until they become fact.

Then they will get their own thread.

Burnley negotiate the price, then other clubs step in? Hope I’m wrong.

if it helps, the Sun are are retweeting their original tweet from Jun 11th that we'd beaten Arsenal and Man United to his signature

So it does sound like its a done deal

arise_sir_charge wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 22, 2021 7:21 am

Couldn’t agree more. It’s painfully dull and not needed in this thread.

funnily enough last nights conversation came from a post I made that effectively echoed your common complaint, it followed another round of discussion on past transfer market performance and the perceived financial strength

Chester Perry wrote: ↑

Mon Jun 21, 2021 5:08 pm

so much endless circling of posts as to the nature of the clubs finances and why it has/hasn't spent money in the Premier League years without actually any analysis of what has actually gone on in that period or understanding of the constraints under which the club has operated - there is no financial analysis, no consideration of the other spending that the club has had to do (it was so far behind acceptable levels in so many areas and still is in quite a few) and so many balls to juggle while doing enough to maintain it's Premier League status and making it attractive enough for someone else to come in ant take it on. The last part in particular was extremely difficult given the challenges any owners would face to develop the club further.

You are often quick to criticise what I post - and I try to stick to an interpretation of official data released by the club, last night's discussion was primarily based on such historical data.

As I have said before, you are one of the few here who have the skillset, knowledge and experience to offer a clear interpretation of this data, you choose not to, which I believe to be a shame, particularly as you criticise those who try to (even when they freely admit they do not have your capabilities and invite other interpretations that they want to prove them wrong). You well know that accounts can say whatever you want them too and If you wanted, you could quite feasibly give a wholly different/opposing slant on my and other's take. The conversation would be so much richer if you did, and it would help many of us here to better understand what has gone /is going on.

Lancasterclaret wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 22, 2021 11:30 am

if it helps, the Sun are are retweeting their original tweet from Jun 11th that we'd beaten Arsenal and Man United to his signature

So it does sound like its a done deal

It's never a done deal until Tony has posted an article saying it is

Jakubclaret wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 22, 2021 11:16 am

I hate to let you into a little secret but 99% of what you read is made up rumours in the media & you can’t always verify the authenticity of the information based upon the twitter following count.

I've re read my original tweet, and you are the third person to read what you think I've said, rather than what I've said

Its a guide, no more than that, and there are other factors.

My mistake for not putting those in, but there are posts on this thread from twitter from posters who have just looked at the story and not checked anything else out.

Now that is what Conroy 92 wants to see, and that is fine

I don't, as I don't post much these days but I do read this thread so I'd prefer it to be full of actual rumours that might come off as opposed to ones made up by bored saddos.

joey13 wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 22, 2021 11:21 am

He hasn’t signed yet

Yeah, I'm aware of that.... although it sounds like he's having his medical.

Just thought I would try and post something positive. Sorry, Joey....

Firthy wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 22, 2021 11:32 am

It's never a done deal until Tony has posted an article saying it is

I'd say if Tony already hasn't then he would be/start writing an article, purely based on Pearcy going public.
The guys rarely wrong.

Although fee agreed doesn't mean signed, theres a few more stages left in the process yet, and Aston Villa are yet to rule themselves out...

Lancasterclaret wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 22, 2021 11:39 am

I've re read my original tweet, and you are the third person to read what you what you think I've said, rather than what I've said

Its a guide, no more than that, and there are other factors.

My mistake for not putting those in, but there are posts on this thread from twitter from posters who have just looked at the story and not checked anything else out.

Now that is what Conroy 92 wants to see, and that is fine

I don't, as I don't post much these days but I do read this thread so I'd prefer it to be full of actual rumours that might come off as opposed to ones made up by bored saddos.

The only thing what is foolproof is what you see with your own eyes & what you hear with your own ears, you are naive & gullible to a certain degree but as you get older you’ll become wiser & learn more away from twitter.

Jakubclaret wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 22, 2021 11:42 am

The only thing what is foolproof is what you see with your own eyes & what you hear with your own ears, you are naive & gullible to a certain degree but as you get older you’ll become wiser & learn more away from twitter.

Jakubclaret wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 22, 2021 11:42 am

The only thing what is foolproof is what you see with your own eyes & what you hear with your own ears, you are naive & gullible to a certain degree but as you get older you’ll become wiser & learn more away from twitter.

Well, that is certainly a point of view

Meh. Too mean.

Chester Perry wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 22, 2021 11:30 am

funnily enough last nights conversation came from a post I made that effectively echoed your common complaint, it followed another round of discussion on past transfer market performance and the perceived financial strength



You are often quick to criticise what I post - and I try to stick to an interpretation of official data released by the club, last night's discussion was primarily based on such historical data.

As I have said before, you are one of the few here who have the skillset, knowledge and experience to offer a clear interpretation of this data, you choose not to, which I believe to be a shame, particularly as you criticise those who try to (even when they freely admit they do not have your capabilities and invite other interpretations that they want to prove them wrong). You well know that accounts can say whatever you want them too and If you wanted, you could quite feasibly give a wholly different/opposing slant on my and other's take. The conversation would be so much richer if you did, and it would help many of us here to better understand what has gone /is going on.

My point on this occasion is more that I don’t see the relevance on a transfer rumours thread. Lancaster says it’s relevant due to budgets etc but I disagree. Football fans aren’t generally interested in that side of the transfer business.

There are plenty of alternative posts where those interested can read and discuss posts around perceived financials.

In respect of my input, as I’ve said before, there are too many unknowns at this stage around ALK and how they plan to operate for me to form an opinion either way.

Jakubs Tash wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 22, 2021 11:40 am

Yeah, I'm aware of that.... although it sounds like he's having his medical.

Just thought I would try and post something positive. Sorry, Joey....

Fingers crossed

ClaretTony wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 22, 2021 10:58 am

I doubt very much that Sean Dyche would have played Craig Dawson at full back.

Pulis did at WBA didn't he? maybe he wouldn't have planned to but with Mee and Tarks in the middle I could've seen Dawson at right back and we'd have been lethal at set pieces in both boxes.