For what it’s worth, Nixon saying Albrighton and Cornet are our number 1 winger targets. However asking prices are more than first thought. For me £9-11m for Cornet will turn out to be a bargain, providing we can tempt him here I can’t see why we wouldn’t do that one - granted it may be nonsense.

Oh and Sutton is a tit

The Pace of signings is far too slow

With Hertha having a big of 8m turned down I would have thought we'd jump in with a bid around 10m. His agents comments may backfire yet.

Sutton likes to be controversial IMO. He comes across as being very bitter a bit like Graeme Souness.I’m a few years I can see him becoming the next Garth Crooks or David Icke as his comments just get stranger and stranger. Playing football at a high level would be more of an attraction at Burnley than money alone.

Spike wrote: ↑

Wed Jul 21, 2021 12:57 pm

The Pace of signings is far too slow

Some posters on here got themselves a little bit too giddy after the Collins signing thinking that we would have the bulk of our business completed before the players returned for pre-season training.

Perhaps we have.

Boss Hogg wrote: ↑

Wed Jul 21, 2021 1:19 pm

Sutton likes to be controversial IMO. He comes across as being very bitter a bit like Graeme Souness.I’m a few years I can see him becoming the next Garth Crooks or David Icke as his comments just get stranger and stranger. Playing football at a high level would be more of an attraction at Burnley than money alone.

Yet another pundit who has manufactured an image for himself.

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote: ↑

Wed Jul 21, 2021 1:34 pm

Yet another pundit who has manufactured an image for himself.

To improve on his bankrupt look, perhaps.

Sutton refused to play for an England B team as he considered this a step too low for his ability. Never asked again

Lancasterclaret wrote: ↑

Wed Jul 21, 2021 9:41 am

Begovic was great last season in the championship

But the two seasons before that he was really poor for Bournemouth and got loaned out to somewhere in Russia I think

Hennessey is better than Begovic, but I think its stretching it to say that Norris is better than him!

Begovic looked outstanding at Stoke but the move to Chelsea didn't help him. He had a big bust up with Howe in January 2019 and was promptly dropped. He did play twice more but his last Premier League game for Bournemouth was when we won down there 3-1. Last season he stepped back in when Ramsdale was sold.

I'm happier signing Hennessey over Begovic but from what I've seen I would consider Norris a poor third in that group.

kentonclaret wrote: ↑

Wed Jul 21, 2021 1:21 pm

Some posters on here got themselves a little bit too giddy after the Collins signing thinking that we would have the bulk of our business completed before the players returned for pre-season training.

Perhaps we have.

As far as I can see, we have signed a "good" prospect for the future - assuming Tarks stays this season

And a reserve gk

I was hoping we would see some different faces in our starting eleven against Brighton - still time to go

Simon Stone is saying we are interested in signing Ainsley Maitland Niles from Arsenal. I would be really happy with signing.

Leicester and Southampton also interested

Mentioned Maitland-Niles as someone I’d love. Suits our system to a T.

RVclaret wrote: ↑

Wed Jul 21, 2021 4:32 pm

Mentioned Maitland-Niles as someone I’d love. Suits our system to a T.

Yes would love him in CM

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑

Wed Jul 21, 2021 4:24 pm

Simon Stone is saying we are interested in signing Ainsley Maitland Niles from Arsenal. I would be really happy with signing.

Leicester and Southampton also interested

I'd have him, still only 23, can play left or right back and CM.
He's got some pace about him hasn't he?

Would be absolutely thrilled with Maitland-Niles. Very versatile and lots of quality. I'm surprised if Arsenal are willing to let him go.

Arsenal rejected £20M from Wolves last summer, I assume his value has since dropped a little, probably nearer £15m. I'd like us in for Reiss Nelson too, around £10m. It's quite a bit of investment at £25m for the pair granted but it's possible we'd recoup that further down the line and those two would SIGNIFICANTLY improve our 11 whilst reducing the age and giving us young assets.

Fees are paid over the length of contract so it wouldn't require immediate £25m investment and I don't think we're too far off, 2-3 of real quality in the right areas. People forget, the moment you sign a player his value does not go down to £0, typically when it's a young player on a longer contract, their value would instantly rise.

Connor Roberts the Swansea right back being linked again

ksrclaret wrote: ↑

Wed Jul 21, 2021 5:00 pm

Would be absolutely thrilled with Maitland-Niles. Very versatile and lots of quality. I'm surprised if Arsenal are willing to let him go.

Was surplus to requirements last season spent the second half of it on loan at West Brom.

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑

Wed Jul 21, 2021 4:35 pm

Yes would love him in CM

Don't think he suits CM in a 4-4-2, more our RM role. Knows the defensive side of it.

Pope
Collins Tark Mee Taylor
Nelson(Arsenal) Westwood Maitland-N(Arsenal) Mcneil
Armstrong(Basturds) Wood


Something like that would be ideal, I've no idea how much it would cost to put that together but we'd be a damn good side and Dyche with those tools is a PL survival guarantee.

Would ALK rather gamble and give Dyche lesser tools and hope he can keep us up again? It's a huge huge gamble with the current loans and debt. We cannot afford to be relegated, we have to put together a good side now.

Giving Dyche less is a bigger gamble than giving him more imo.

If Leicester and Southampton are interested in Maitland Niles then it's time to look elsewhere and not to waste time on this non starter, Armstrong is a 25+ million pound player so we've no chance and Collins could cover right back but not a permanent place for the season

ClaretMov wrote: ↑

Wed Jul 21, 2021 5:17 pm

If Leicester and Southampton are interested in Maitland Niles then it's time to look elsewhere and not to waste time on this non starter, Armstrong is a 25+ million pound player so we've no chance and Collins could cover right back but not a permanent place for the season

Collins played mostly right back at Stoke, his best performances came in that position.

https://allstokedup.com/2020/12/08/is-n ... ight-back/
https://www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/f ... on-4754474


Armstrong's contract expires in 12 months, there's absolutely no way they'll get £25M for him.

Depends how much Maitland Niles wants to play regularly and in a system that suits him. He was prepared to go to West Brom.

It's good you say Armstrong is a £25m+ player though because you're probably not wrong if he had 3 years left on his contract. If we signed him on a 4 year deal for £12m-15m, I assume he's still a £25m+ player.

KRBFC wrote: ↑

Wed Jul 21, 2021 5:28 pm

It's good you say Armstrong is a £25m+ player though because you're probably not wrong if he had 3 years left on his contract. If we signed him on a 4 year deal for £12m-15m, I assume he's still a £25m+ player.

Nixon tweeted just today saying they want 25 for him.

RVclaret wrote: ↑

Wed Jul 21, 2021 5:44 pm

Nixon tweeted just today saying they want 25 for him.

He said that ages ago too, want and get are different things. As time ticks on his contract, the Venkys keep losing money, I'm pretty sure they wont want him leaving on a free in less than 12 months time. If nobody offers £25m, which they wont, I'd guess they'll be prepared to accept alot less.

He looks a good striker down there but he ain't £25 million with 12 mths left.

The most interesting thing for me is the actual number of players we have strong links to, it shows at the very least we are trying to get signings over the line and are very active.
Linked with Collins and Hennessey, both signed.
Still linked with Worrall, Phillips, Cornet, Yarmolenko, Albrighton, Christie and now Maitland-Niles shows intent. It also shows we are not just looking at our usual 1 player 1 person approach but casting the net wide with options if players go elsewhere.
Of course, we may not sign any of them but at least it feels we have upped our game.

There’s also a good chance that we have the feelers out about several players in case the first targets don’t come off. For example if what’s being said is correct, that Albrighton and Cornet are our main targets for the wide positions, then it may just be that we identified these two as good options at good prices, if they then become inflated or “bad” prices then we may well move on to the more expensive targets as the value for money on the long term could be more worth our while, e.g. Albrighton at 31 for £10m or Dan James at 23 for £17-£25m. Not beyond the realms of possibility

Brentford have made their 2nd summer signing adding centre-back Kristoffer Ajer from Celtic on a five-year-deal.

The fee according to the Scottish media is £13m or so, Ajer isn't a bad player, but he does have an error in him from time to time.

The Bees also signed Nigeria midfielder Frank Onyeka from FC Midtjylland yesterday for an undisclosed fee.

Looking like same team to start new season

BOYSIE31 wrote: ↑

Wed Jul 21, 2021 9:40 pm

Looking like same team to start new season

But possibly without Pope!

tiger76 wrote: ↑

Wed Jul 21, 2021 9:39 pm

Brentford have made their 2nd summer signing adding centre-back Kristoffer Ajer from Celtic on a five-year-deal.

The fee according to the Scottish media is £13m or so, Ajer isn't a bad player, but he does have an error in him from time to time.

The Bees also signed Nigeria midfielder Frank Onyeka from FC Midtjylland yesterday for an undisclosed fee.

Onyeka is an interesting player. Could be a shrewd signing for them.

I don't quite understand our supposed interest in Cornet, every time I've seen him play it's been on the left hand side.

KRBFC wrote: ↑

Wed Jul 21, 2021 9:55 pm

I don't quite understand our supposed interest in Cornet, every time I've seen him play it's been on the left hand side.

Dyche seems to like inverted wingers. Could very well be eyeing him up to play on the right or potentially move Dwight over to the right.

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑

Wed Jul 21, 2021 9:52 pm

Onyeka is an interesting player. Could be a shrewd signing for them.

Or he could be a complete waste of money.

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑

Wed Jul 21, 2021 9:52 pm

Onyeka is an interesting player. Could be a shrewd signing for them.

What makes you say that?

PremierLeagueClass wrote: ↑

Wed Jul 21, 2021 10:05 pm

What makes you say that?

Saw him play against Liverpool in champions league twice last season. Thought he had two very good performances. Obviously a very small selection to gain an opinion but thought he looked good.

Jakubs Tash wrote: ↑

Wed Jul 21, 2021 10:04 pm

Or he could be a complete waste of money.

Couldn't that be said of almost any new signing?

boatshed bill wrote: ↑

Wed Jul 21, 2021 10:13 pm

Couldn't that be said of almost any new signing?

Exactly. There seems to be a narrative that every single signing Brentford make is a rough diamond that will turn into a great signing.

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑

Wed Jul 21, 2021 10:09 pm

Saw him play against Liverpool in champions league twice last season. Thought he had two very good performances. Obviously a very small selection to gain an opinion but thought he looked good.

let's also not forget that both clubs are owned by the same guy, if it doesn't work out they'll no doubt transfer him back for another "undisclosed" fee

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑

Wed Jul 21, 2021 10:17 pm

let's also not forget that both clubs are owned by the same guy, if it doesn't work out they'll no doubt transfer him back for another "undisclosed" fee

Could end up being a disaster but from what I saw he looked to have something about him.

Be interesting to see how he does.

tiger76 wrote: ↑

Wed Jul 21, 2021 9:39 pm

Brentford have made their 2nd summer signing adding centre-back Kristoffer Ajer from Celtic on a five-year-deal.

The fee according to the Scottish media is £13m or so, Ajer isn't a bad player, but he does have an error in him from time to time.

The Bees also signed Nigeria midfielder Frank Onyeka from FC Midtjylland yesterday for an undisclosed fee.

Gutted about this - he is the one player i have been banging on about us signing for a while on here now (Ajer)

Brentford will stay up
Well organised and home form will keep them up.

Woodleyclaret wrote: ↑

Thu Jul 22, 2021 9:39 am

Brentford will stay up
Well organised and home form will keep them up.

Hmmm can’t see it. Think their fancy brand of football will look pretty but come undone in the Prem like Norwich a couple of seasons ago.

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑

Wed Jul 21, 2021 9:52 pm

Onyeka is an interesting player. Could be a shrewd signing for them.

I don't know anything about him, but I've often wondered why we seem reluctant to scour the Scandinavian leagues for some bargains.

gandhisflipflop wrote: ↑

Wed Jul 21, 2021 10:31 pm

Gutted about this - he is the one player i have been banging on about us signing for a while on here now (Ajer)

Don’t know a lot about him, but when I read the Celtic mb they seemed to say he was positionally poor and susceptible to errors. A few said he wasn’t their best CB. Will be interesting to see if that was sour grapes or whether he adapts well to the higher level. Tbf, he’s at the right club for development.

RVclaret wrote: ↑

Thu Jul 22, 2021 9:40 am

Hmmm can’t see it. Think their fancy brand of football will look pretty but come undone in the Prem like Norwich a couple of seasons ago.

Will also be surprised. You can never discount that they do a Sheffield United but I think relegation is more likely.

gandhisflipflop wrote: ↑

Wed Jul 21, 2021 10:31 pm

Gutted about this - he is the one player i have been banging on about us signing for a while on here now (Ajer)

We don't need another centre back, and having seen Ajer in action in the Old Firm games and Europe I have my concerns over whether he'll make the step up to the PL on a weekly basis, it's a big leap playing the likes of Hamilton & Kilmarnock to facing some of the best strikers in Europe most weeks.

tiger76 wrote: ↑

Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:14 am

We don't need another centre back, and having seen Ajer in action in the Old Firm games and Europe I have my concerns over whether he'll make the step up to the PL on a weekly basis, it's a big leap playing the likes of Hamilton & Kilmarnock to facing some of the best strikers in Europe most weeks.

I thought he was a RCB, anyway? If we sign another CH it’ll be a LCB like Worrall or Davies, I’d have thought.