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Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 9:02 am
by Dark Cloud
Grimsdale wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 8:58 am
I don't believe there's anything in the Jozwiak link - it's based on an article that says he would be a good signing for Burnley, nothing to indicate we have any interest in him.
You could well be right, but on the surface he looks like the kind of hidden gem we were once really good at finding and polishing. I'd be very keen and happy at the right price.
Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 9:04 am
by SGr
I’m very much in favour of this deal if we can get it done
Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 9:10 am
by dibraidio
Not once did he track back or put in a tackle. Not one for us I don't think.
Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 9:34 am
by NewClaret
Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 8:45 am
Very much looks like the Collins deal is happening.
The infamous Irish scout on Twitter has confirmed. As have a number of Irish papers.
Got a link mate?
I’ve forgotten his name.
Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 9:39 am
by Hedontplayforyou
Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 8:45 am
Very much looks like the Collins deal is happening.
The infamous Irish scout on Twitter has confirmed. As have a number of Irish papers.
Can’t see anything
Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 9:42 am
by Duffer_
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Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 10:10 am
by Zom Zom
dibraidio wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 9:10 am
Not once did he track back or put in a tackle. Not one for us I don't think.
It could be that he hasn't been asked to?? They may want him in a more offensive position just in case there's the opportunity to get forward.
Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 10:43 am
by claretandy
Duffer_ wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 9:42 am
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Bodens basically just copied Nixon's article, the people who think Nixon knows nowt are going to be absolutely furious when they find this out.
Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 10:54 am
by jedi_master
I have never seen Collins play so I won’t pretend to know whether this will be a good signing or not - however, having a cursory look on ‘The Oatcake’ (Stoke’s main forum) shows how highly they rate him.
They think £12m is a disgrace of a sum too.
Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 11:01 am
by DCWat
If he turns out to be the next James Tarkowski or Ben White, the fee would look like excellent value.
Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 11:16 am
by RVclaret
jedi_master wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 10:54 am
I have never seen Collins play so I won’t pretend to know whether this will be a good signing or not - however, having a cursory look on ‘The Oatcake’ (Stoke’s main forum) shows how highly they rate him.
They think £12m is a disgrace of a sum too.
My Stoke supporting mate reckons he’s a good en.
Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 12:03 pm
by CrosspoolClarets
Lots of talk that £15m will get Stoke to the table.
That £3m gap is going to be a good yardstick to compare our old regime, and our new.
I’m not saying we should pay any price quoted. But nonetheless, it is the kind of gap that has ruined bids for us in the past and left us where we are now in terms of squad strength.
Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 12:09 pm
by Jakubs Tash
Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 8:45 am
Very much looks like the Collins deal is happening.
The infamous Irish scout on Twitter has confirmed. As have a number of Irish papers.
Can't see what you have for some reason...
Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 12:57 pm
by ClaretMov
Can you really see this Collins deal happening when the likes of Manchester United, Arsenal Leicester and even Chelsea are linked with him, if it was Mansfield Accrington Luton or Colchester we might of been able to compete
If the rumours are true and those clubs are looking at him Let's hope the lad wants to play each week and not be a bench warmer for one of the big boys and picks Burnley one of the most organised defences in Europe
Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 2:06 pm
by DCWat
ClaretMov wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 12:57 pm
Can you really see this Collins deal happening when the likes of Manchester United, Arsenal Leicester and even Chelsea are linked with him, if it was Mansfield Accrington Luton or Colchester we might of been able to compete
If the rumours are true and those clubs are looking at him Let's hope the lad wants to play each week and not be a bench warmer for one of the big boys and picks Burnley one of the most organised defences in Europe
It’s not beyond the realms of possibility that he’s looked at the likes of Trippier, Tarkowski and Keane to see the potential of playing for Burnley.
If we benefit financially and on the field, being seen as a good stepping stone is a good position to be in.
Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 3:04 pm
by BennyD
RVclaret wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 11:16 am
My Stoke supporting mate reckons he’s a good en.
Mine too.
Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 7:25 pm
by Vegas Claret
CrosspoolClarets wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 12:03 pm
Lots of talk that £15m will get Stoke to the table.
That £3m gap is going to be a good yardstick to compare our old regime, and our new.
I’m not saying we should pay any price quoted. But nonetheless, it is the kind of gap that has ruined bids for us in the past and left us where we are now in terms of squad strength.
our old regime offered 4 million !
Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 7:29 pm
by GodIsADeeJay81
DCWat wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 2:06 pm
It’s not beyond the realms of possibility that he’s looked at the likes of Trippier, Tarkowski and Keane to see the potential of playing for Burnley.
If we benefit financially and on the field, being seen as a good stepping stone is a good position to be in.
This should be one of our biggest selling points, that we develop players who then go on to play international football whilst at Burnley and some move on to bigger clubs, or they become key players for us and stay for years.
Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 9:47 pm
by Stockbrokerbelt
Reports were talking with Ashley Young over a 1 year contract……
Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 9:54 pm
by joey13
Stockbrokerbelt wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 9:47 pm
Reports were talking with Ashley Young over a 1 year contract……
Oh dear
Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 10:10 pm
by Hedontplayforyou
Not sure what to think
Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 10:16 pm
by jedi_master
I’d be happy to have Ashley Young as long as we also sign a younger winger too. He would definitely be a good option for us for a year, in my opinion.
Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 10:17 pm
by boatshed bill
Duffer_ wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 9:42 am
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Isn't Stoke's minimum asking figure £15m?
Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 10:40 pm
by ClaretTony
jedi_master wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 10:16 pm
I’d be happy to have Ashley Young as long as we also sign a younger winger too. He would definitely be a good option for us for a year, in my opinion.
Interesting one is this. Just played a full season in Serie A.
Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 10:49 pm
by Newcastleclaret93
ClaretTony wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 10:40 pm
Interesting one is this. Just played a full season in Serie A.
Inter are having serious financial problems they want to reduce there wage bill by nearly 40%.
Partly why Conte left
Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 10:50 pm
by CnBtruntru
This from the Watford Observer
Ashley Young's proposed return to Watford is hanging in the balance with new Inter Milan boss Simone Inzaghi keen to retain the left-back's services for another season.
Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 10:51 pm
by ClaretTony
Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 10:49 pm
Inter are having serious financial problems they want to reduce there wage bill by nearly 40%.
Partly why Conte left
Young is 36 too next month
Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 10:53 pm
by ClaretTony
CnBtruntru wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 10:50 pm
This from the Watford Observer
Ashley Young's proposed return to Watford is hanging in the balance with new Inter Milan boss Simone Inzaghi keen to retain the left-back's services for another season.
I think Watford are signing Danny Rose
Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 11:02 pm
by CharlieinNewMexico
ClaretTony wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 10:51 pm
Young is 36 too next month
Ashley Old.
Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 11:04 pm
by boatshed bill
Mental.
Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 11:05 pm
by TheFamilyCat
GodIsADeeJay81 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 7:29 pm
This should be one of our biggest selling points, that we develop players who then go on to play international football whilst at Burnley and some move on to bigger clubs, or they become key players for us and stay for years.
I'd agree with that but how many players would choose that over the extra 10, 20, 30 grand and status of playing for* a top 6 club?
I guess players who choose us over sitting on a bench for more money tick the "character" boxes for SD.
*or not actually playing, as the case may be
Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 11:06 pm
by ClaretTony
Just about the same age Grezza was when we signed him.
Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 11:07 pm
by boatshed bill
ClaretTony wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 11:06 pm
Just about the same age Grezza was when we signed him.
Different league though.
Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 11:07 pm
by CnBtruntru
Ashley Young 36 in July, leave him in Italy for me.
Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 11:08 pm
by NewClaret
Young returning to Watford.
Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 11:14 pm
by ClaretTony
boatshed bill wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 11:07 pm
Different league though.
Yes, and different quality of player too.
Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 11:18 pm
by boatshed bill
ClaretTony wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 11:14 pm
Yes, and different quality of player too.
Yep.
Grezza was consistently excellent for us.
Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 11:26 pm
by ClaretTony
boatshed bill wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 11:18 pm
Yep.
Grezza was consistently excellent for us.
I’m not knocking Grezza but one season apart he played all his football at lower levels. Young has been a top flight player virtually all of his career.
I’m not suggesting it will be a good or bad signing if it happens but his age shouldn’t be a huge concern.
Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 11:26 pm
by PremierLeagueClass
Could do a very good job for a season, maybe even two if he’s kept himself fit.
Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 11:29 pm
by ClaretTony
PremierLeagueClass wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 11:26 pm
Could do a very good job for a season, maybe even two if he’s kept himself fit.
Dyche will know him too. He was in the Watford team when Young made his debut.
Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 11:35 pm
by Rileybobs
Would love to see the reaction of some on here if we increase the average age of the squad this summer
Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion
Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 12:27 am
by boatshed bill
ClaretTony wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 11:26 pm
I’m not knocking Grezza but one season apart he played all his football at lower levels. Young has been a top flight player virtually all of his career.
I’m not suggesting it will be a good or bad signing if it happens but his age shouldn’t be a huge concern.
I think he's done as good as he ever will. So can't see how we would benefit.
More to the point; doesn't he play left side, the area we least need to strengthen?
Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion
Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 6:44 am
by jedi_master
Brady was also a left sided player but played pretty much all of his football for us on the right. McNeil apart, Dyche seems to prefer to invert his wingers.
Even if he just takes on a Matt Taylor type role for us, being a throw of the dice off the bench to bring on for his delivery, at least it gives us another option with some real quality.
Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion
Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 7:05 am
by TsarBomba
Are people really turning their nose up at Ashley Young? Really?
Just won Serie A, with a manager that is probably the most demanding in the game, and somehow he isn’t good enough for us?
Young would be a fantastic acquisition for a year.
Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion
Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 7:22 am
by BenWickes
Can't say I'd be against Young on a one year deal. Adds to the squad and he clearly can still hack it. Played plenty of times for the winners of Serie A last season.
Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion
Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 7:46 am
by minnieclaret
Ashley Young is a LB now. Where has the Charlie love-in gone?
Still a fine player but not a space that needs filling.
Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion
Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 7:59 am
by djemba-djemba
jedi_master wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 6:44 am
Even if he just takes on a Matt Taylor type role for us, being a throw of the dice off the bench to bring on for his delivery, at least it gives us another option with some real quality.
Good grief, spending £50k a week on a throw of the dice squad player to occasionally come off the bench now and again?
Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion
Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 8:06 am
by Newcastleclaret93
djemba-djemba wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 7:59 am
Good grief, spending £50k a week on a throw of the dice squad player to occasionally come off the bench now and again?
Do you really think a lad that is coming from the Serie A champions after featuring in nearly every game when Fit won’t start every week for Burnley?
Good grief, if young comes to Burnley he starts every single game (fitness permitted)
Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion
Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 8:30 am
by Top Claret
Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 8:06 am
Do you really think a lad that is coming from the Serie A champions after featuring in nearly every game when Fit won’t start every week for Burnley?
Good grief, if young comes to Burnley he starts every single game (fitness permitted)
Milan might be able to cut it in the Premier league but I doubt 75% of the other clubs could. Seria A standards are way below ours
The body of a 36 year old is way to old to make a serious impact in the Premier league, he will spend the majority of his time on the physio bench.
Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion
Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 8:37 am
by BenWickes
I personally think it would be an astute signing. His experience, awareness and understanding of playing both full-back and wing could be invaluable. Adding a bit more balance to the left and something both Taylor and McNeil could learn from/build on.
There's a touch too much naivety with Taylor and Mcneil both on the left at the same time and Pieters, as reliable as he is. Hasn't just won a Serie A title. He's obviously still capable of playing at the top level.
