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Another statto question

Post by huw.Y.WattfromWare » Wed May 12, 2021 11:09 am

Heard on the Fulham comms that it was our first top flight win at Fulham since the 70s. Following our recent wins at OT, Anfield and Emirates, following long droughts, has anybody a link to our last away wins at all the current PL clubs. I know we have had wins over Norwich and Watford of the promoted sides.
Newcastle must be near the top as I can’t recall a win there.

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Re: Another statto question

Post by Ptangyangkipperbang » Wed May 12, 2021 11:16 am

Not won at Newcastle since 1974 think I read somewhere it was 1965 our last top flight win at Fulham

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Re: Another statto question

Post by ClaretTony » Wed May 12, 2021 11:22 am

huw.Y.WattfromWare wrote:
Wed May 12, 2021 11:09 am
Heard on the Fulham comms that it was our first top flight win at Fulham since the 70s. Following our recent wins at OT, Anfield and Emirates, following long droughts, has anybody a link to our last away wins at all the current PL clubs. I know we have had wins over Norwich and Watford of the promoted sides.
Newcastle must be near the top as I can’t recall a win there.
Arsenal 2020/21
Aston Villa 2014/15
Brighton 2018/19
Chelsea 2017/18
Crystal Palace 2020/21
Everton 2020/21
Fulham 2020/21
Leeds 2013/14 (1973/74)
Leicester 2007/08 (1968/69)
Liverpool 2020/21
Manchester City 1962/63
Manchester United 2019/20
Newcastle 1975/76
Sheffield United 2008/09 (1973/74)
Southampton 2019/20
Tottenham 1974/75
West Brom 2017/18
West Ham 2019/20
Wolves 2020/21

and without having to look anything up
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Re: Another statto question

Post by Clarets4me » Wed May 12, 2021 1:55 pm

Fulham have room to talk, they haven't won at Turf Moor in 31 attempts since April 1951 ....

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Re: Another statto question

Post by huw.Y.WattfromWare » Wed May 12, 2021 2:01 pm

We can put Sheff U right next week. Then City, Newcastle and Spurs need working on. SD has had a remarkable ability to re-write history for us.

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Re: Another statto question

Post by Silkyskills1 » Wed May 12, 2021 3:11 pm

Went to the Newcastle game in 1976, won 0-1. Few days later last by the same scoreline at home to Man Utd. which saw us relegated for the first time since I started watching us in 58/59 season.

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Re: Another statto question

Post by ClaretTony » Wed May 12, 2021 3:19 pm

Silkyskills1 wrote:
Wed May 12, 2021 3:11 pm
Went to the Newcastle game in 1976, won 0-1. Few days later last by the same scoreline at home to Man Utd. which saw us relegated for the first time since I started watching us in 58/59 season.
Just two days later when United beat us to relegate us but it was our second relegation. I know we’d like to forget 1970/71 but history doesn’t allow us to. 😀

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Re: Another statto question

Post by FCBurnley » Wed May 12, 2021 4:50 pm

Was just looking at our points comparison for home and away games. This was to try and assess how home advantage has all but disappeared during the lock down. Here are our splits for the last 5 seasons

16/17 h 33 a 7 Pts % split 82.5/17.5
17/18 h 26 a 28 Pts % split 48.15/51.85
18/19 h 24 a 17 Pts % split 58.5/41.5
19/20 h 28 a 26 Pts.% split 51.9/48.1
20/21 h 18 a 21 Pts % split 46.2/53.8 (35 games)

Total over 5 seasons

H 129 A 99 % split 56.6/43.4

So in summary this season is our lowest Home points % And obviously our highest away %. Not sure if that proves anything but I think most teams home record this season is worse than normal or maybe it is just the away results are better I had forgotten how few points we got away in 16/17 but what a turnaround in 17/18. Overall I think to get 43% of our points away from home is pretty solid
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Post by duncandisorderly » Wed May 12, 2021 4:58 pm

I like how 17/18 and 19/20 are exact mirrors of each other yet the percentages are different.

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Post by Ashingtonclaret46 » Wed May 12, 2021 5:00 pm

There are 10 teams who have lost more games at home this season than they did last season and this does not include any of the 3 promoted teams.
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Re: Another statto question

Post by FCBurnley » Wed May 12, 2021 5:42 pm

duncandisorderly wrote:
Wed May 12, 2021 4:58 pm
I like how 17/18 and 19/20 are exact mirrors of each other yet the percentages are different.
Decided to round it down to 1 decimal point.

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Post by Conroy92 » Wed May 12, 2021 5:46 pm

In Dyche's tenure here we seem to have bucked the trend against quite a few teams.

Is anyone able to list them?

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Re: Another statto question

Post by groove » Wed May 12, 2021 6:40 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Wed May 12, 2021 11:22 am
Arsenal 2020/21
Aston Villa 2014/15
Brighton 2018/19
Chelsea 2017/18
Crystal Palace 2020/21
Everton 2020/21
Fulham 2020/21
Leeds 2013/14
Leicester 2007/08
Liverpool 2020/21
Manchester City 1962/63
Manchester United 2019/20
Newcastle 1975/76
Sheffield United 2008/09
Southampton 2019/20
Tottenham 1974/75
West Brom 2017/18
West Ham 2019/20
Wolves 2020/21

and without having to look anything up
Are you only counting league games Tony? We won at White Hart lane in 83.

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Re: Another statto question

Post by groove » Wed May 12, 2021 6:41 pm

Sorry, just re-read the OP and it does indeed mention top flight wins.

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Re: Another statto question

Post by huw.Y.WattfromWare » Wed May 12, 2021 6:59 pm

groove wrote:
Wed May 12, 2021 6:41 pm
Sorry, just re-read the OP and it does indeed mention top flight wins.
Yea. We won the Charity Shield at Maine Rd against City.

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Re: Another statto question

Post by TheFamilyCat » Wed May 12, 2021 7:03 pm

I can't believe it's that long since we won at Leicester. Didn't we win on our first three visits to the Walkers/King Power?

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Re: Another statto question

Post by Ashingtonclaret46 » Wed May 12, 2021 7:06 pm

TheFamilyCat wrote:
Wed May 12, 2021 7:03 pm
I can't believe it's that long since we won at Leicester. Didn't we win on our first three visits to the Walkers/King Power?
They were in the Championship.

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Re: Another statto question

Post by TheFamilyCat » Wed May 12, 2021 7:12 pm

Ashingtonclaret46 wrote:
Wed May 12, 2021 7:06 pm
They were in the Championship.
I know

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Re: Another statto question

Post by ClaretTony » Wed May 12, 2021 7:14 pm

groove wrote:
Wed May 12, 2021 6:40 pm
Are you only counting league games Tony? We won at White Hart lane in 83.
Yes - only included league games

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Re: Another statto question

Post by huw.Y.WattfromWare » Wed May 12, 2021 7:32 pm

TheFamilyCat wrote:
Wed May 12, 2021 7:03 pm
I can't believe it's that long since we won at Leicester. Didn't we win on our first three visits to the Walkers/King Power?
....my error.

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Re: Another statto question

Post by Tall Paul » Wed May 12, 2021 7:39 pm

Where has my post gone? Can't we link to that burnleystats site or something?

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Re: Another statto question

Post by Ashingtonclaret46 » Wed May 12, 2021 7:48 pm

TheFamilyCat wrote:
Wed May 12, 2021 7:03 pm
I can't believe it's that long since we won at Leicester. Didn't we win on our first three visits to the Walkers/King Power?
They were in the Championship.
TheFamilyCat wrote:
Wed May 12, 2021 7:12 pm


I know
November 2007 we won 1-0 with Andy Gray scoring the goal.

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Re: Another statto question

Post by ClaretTony » Wed May 12, 2021 8:16 pm

TheFamilyCat wrote:
Wed May 12, 2021 7:03 pm
I can't believe it's that long since we won at Leicester. Didn't we win on our first three visits to the Walkers/King Power?
Won four out of the first five all 1-0 and drew the other 0-0 but no wins since.

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Re: Another statto question

Post by claretburns » Wed May 12, 2021 9:11 pm

Sheff Utd in 08/09 would have been in the Championship, when was our last top flight win there?

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Re: Another statto question

Post by huw.Y.WattfromWare » Wed May 12, 2021 9:17 pm

claretburns wrote:
Wed May 12, 2021 9:11 pm
Sheff Utd in 08/09 would have been in the Championship, when was our last top flight win there?
First match of 73-74 season springs to mind. Not set in stone though.
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Re: Another statto question

Post by jmu1 » Wed May 12, 2021 9:19 pm

First game I remember seeing the blue away kit

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Re: Another statto question

Post by ClaretTony » Wed May 12, 2021 10:54 pm

claretburns wrote:
Wed May 12, 2021 9:11 pm
Sheff Utd in 08/09 would have been in the Championship, when was our last top flight win there?
The list I provided further up the thread included three away wins below the top flight, at Leeds, Leicester and Sheffield United. I've now added to those in brackets with the last top flight wins which were Leeds (1973/74), Leicester (1968/69) and Sheffield United (1973/74).
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Re: Another statto question

Post by FCBurnley » Thu May 13, 2021 12:24 am

We need to win at Sheff U as it could be a long time before we play them in top flight again

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