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Tonight's football 13/5
Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 6:41 pm
by Conroysleftfoot
Quite surprised looking at the league table that, if Villa get a point tonight, they will be on 49 points only 10 more than us. Considering how much they have spent it shows, again, how well we have done.
Re: Tonight's football 13/5
Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 6:47 pm
by evensteadiereddie
No problems at Old Trafford but rumours circulating a Liverpool bus, the team bus, has been "kettled" into a sidestreet by Utd "fans" and its tyres let down. *
If this is true, United are in big, big trouble.
* Perhaps they should have paid a fiver to some kids to "Have it looked after, Mister."
Re: Tonight's football 13/5
Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 6:48 pm
by Steve1956
And watching Villa it makes you wonder how they have got 48 points...poor side without Grealish
Re: Tonight's football 13/5
Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 6:51 pm
by Tall Paul
evensteadiereddie wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 6:47 pm
No problems at Old Trafford but rumours circulating a Liverpool bus, the team bus, has been "kettled" into a sidestreet by Utd "fans" and its tyres let down. *
If this is true, United are in big, big trouble.
* Perhaps they should have paid a fiver to some kids to "Have it looked after, Mister."
I heard that they'd smashed the bus' windows in an effort to force the Glazers out.
Re: Tonight's football 13/5
Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 6:52 pm
by TheFamilyCat
Tall Paul wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 6:51 pm
I heard that they'd smashed the bus' windows in an effort to force the Glazers out.
Re: Tonight's football 13/5
Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 6:52 pm
by ElectroClaret
evensteadiereddie wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 6:47 pm
No problems at Old Trafford but rumours circulating a Liverpool bus, the team bus, has been "kettled" into a sidestreet by Utd "fans" and its tyres let down. *
If this is true, United are in big, big trouble.
* Perhaps they should have paid a fiver to some kids to "Have it looked after, Mister."
Radio Manchester saying the protesters outside OT are "on the move" to where the Liverpool team bus would arrive, but as of now, game goes ahead.
Edit...now "lots of police" trying to head them off.
Liverpool team now arrived.
Re: Tonight's football 13/5
Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 6:56 pm
by evensteadiereddie
I hope to God this doesn't turn ugly, the consequences for the game could be horrendous.
Re: Tonight's football 13/5
Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 7:05 pm
by Bordeauxclaret
evensteadiereddie wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 6:56 pm
I hope to God this doesn't turn ugly, the consequences for the game could be horrendous.
I think it will, Fernandes is playing.
Re: Tonight's football 13/5
Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 7:10 pm
by jrgbfc
United should forfeit the points if it can't be played tonight. You could argue that should have happened after the first game.
Re: Tonight's football 13/5
Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 7:19 pm
by Paul Waine
Conroysleftfoot wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 6:41 pm
Quite surprised looking at the league table that, if Villa get a point tonight, they will be on 49 points only 10 more than us. Considering how much they have spent it shows, again, how well we have done.
Times has an article today about clubs that have overachieved, comparing 2020 wages (staff costs as reported in accounts) against this season's points as at 12th May. Headline:
Bought the title? Analysis shows Manchester City overachieved based on wage bill
Leicester, West Ham, City, Villa and Wolves take the top 5 spots - most overachievers. Burnley in 10th underachieving by 3 points. The only problem is, they've not adjusted for the 13 months accounts period, so it's based £100m staff costs.
UTC
Re: Tonight's football 13/5
Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 7:20 pm
by tiger76
What exactly do these Utd supporters want, their team is probably going to finish 2nd, and could lift the EL in a couple of weeks, I get that they want rid of the owners, but hindering their own teams prospects seems a bizarre way to get their point across.
And if this fixture doesn't go ahead tonight it could have ramifications for the rest of the league, so it's vital that it goes ahead if at all possible, otherwise the whole integrity of the PL is under threat, imagine if Liverpool are awarded a 3-0 win in that scenario, and they then go on to pip somebody else to a CL spot on the final day, if I was a fan of Chelsea, Leicester or West Ham I'd be up in arms at that outcome.
Re: Tonight's football 13/5
Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 7:22 pm
by Vegas Claret
evensteadiereddie wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 6:47 pm
No problems at Old Trafford but rumours circulating a Liverpool bus, the team bus, has been "kettled" into a sidestreet by Utd "fans" and its tyres let down. *
If this is true, United are in big, big trouble.
* Perhaps they should have paid a fiver to some kids to "Have it looked after, Mister."
fake news
Re: Tonight's football 13/5
Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 7:26 pm
by Conroysleftfoot
I think everybody should calm down a little. The Liverpool players shown arriving at OT don't look like their coach has been subject to a vicious attack. It's amazing how comments on social media get people fired up.
Re: Tonight's football 13/5
Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 7:29 pm
by tiger76
Steve1956 wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 6:48 pm
And watching Villa it makes you wonder how they have got 48 points...poor side without Grealish
The stats don't lie Steve.
Snippet from the BBC.
Jack Grealish is on the pitch warming up. If the game picks up from where it left off then he needs to be on sooner rather than later.
Villa have a 50% Premier League win rate when he has played this season (11/22) compared to 25% without him (3/12).
And yet even with him they still couldn't beat us this season.
Re: Tonight's football 13/5
Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 7:29 pm
by GodIsADeeJay81
tiger76 wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 7:20 pm
What exactly do these Utd supporters want, their team is probably going to finish 2nd, and could lift the EL in a couple of weeks, I get that they want rid of the owners, but hindering their own teams prospects seems a bizarre way to get their point across.
And if this fixture doesn't go ahead tonight it could have ramifications for the rest of the league, so it's vital that it goes ahead if at all possible, otherwise the whole integrity of the PL is under threat, imagine if Liverpool are awarded a 3-0 win in that scenario, and they then go on to pip somebody else to a CL spot on the final day, if I was a fan of Chelsea, Leicester or West Ham I'd be up in arms at that outcome.
They want to be owned by an Oil rich family, or an Abrahamovich type.
They want a shiny new stadium, or OT invested in.
They want to be the top dogs in England again.
They just want to be able to have their cake and to eat it.
Re: Tonight's football 13/5
Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 7:29 pm
by randomclaret2
The coach in question was a decoy
Re: Tonight's football 13/5
Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 7:30 pm
by evensteadiereddie
Re: Tonight's football 13/5
Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 7:31 pm
by tiger76
10 changes for United, clearly Ole realises how important this fixture is to the Utd fans.
Re: Tonight's football 13/5
Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 7:32 pm
by evensteadiereddie
randomclaret2 wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 7:29 pm
The coach in question was a decoy
Not a Van Hool or a Mercedes ?
Re: Tonight's football 13/5
Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 7:36 pm
by tiger76
GodIsADeeJay81 wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 7:29 pm
They want to be owned by an Oil rich family, or an Abrahamovich type.
They want a shiny new stadium, or OT invested in.
They want to be the top dogs in England again.
They just want to be able to have their cake and to eat it.
They don't expect much then do they
and I' m well aware of the Glazers piling debt on the club, but you can hardly accuse them of not investing in the squad, Utd have the 2nd biggest net spend after City, so it's not like the playing staff isn't being prioritised in recent years is it.
Re: Tonight's football 13/5
Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 7:45 pm
by Conroysleftfoot
GodIsADeeJay81 wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 7:29 pm
They want to be owned by an Oil rich family, or an Abrahamovich type.
They want a shiny new stadium, or OT invested in.
They want to be the top dogs in England again.
They just want to be able to have their cake and to eat it.
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You're absolutely right, they do not like the fact that City have the backing they have.
Re: Tonight's football 13/5
Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 7:59 pm
by tiger76
Finished 0-0 in the Villa-Everton borefest, 2 poor teams given the money both have spent.
Re: Tonight's football 13/5
Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 8:04 pm
by Spijed
Would anyone say Villa are any better than us without Grealish?
Re: Tonight's football 13/5
Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 8:19 pm
by tiger76
Spijed wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 8:04 pm
Would anyone say Villa are any better than us without Grealish?
Well their results would suggest not, and the only reason they have a 10 point gap is due to their early season form which Grealish was a major part of.
Re: Tonight's football 13/5
Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 8:25 pm
by Vino blanco
I believe we have a better backfive than Villa and our four strikers are better than theirs. However with Grealish, Barkley, Mcguinn etc they have a better midfield than us. Having a good midfield is paramount in the PL.
Re: Tonight's football 13/5
Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 8:27 pm
by taio
Spijed wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 8:04 pm
Would anyone say Villa are any better than us without Grealish?
Not a great deal of difference if you take Grealish out. But then again what about if you remove our best player at the same time?
Re: Tonight's football 13/5
Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 8:30 pm
by tiger76
1-0 Utd cracking own goal from the Scousers.
Re: Tonight's football 13/5
Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 8:38 pm
by GodIsADeeJay81
Spijed wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 8:04 pm
Would anyone say Villa are any better than us without Grealish?
Nope and Barkley hasn't done anywhere near enough to step up and fill that void and he's gotten over his injury by now.
Re: Tonight's football 13/5
Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 8:39 pm
by GodIsADeeJay81
tiger76 wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 7:36 pm
They don't expect much then do they
and I' m well aware of the Glazers piling debt on the club, but you can hardly accuse them of not investing in the squad, Utd have the 2nd biggest net spend after City, so it's not like the playing staff isn't being prioritised in recent years is it.
Yeah but Utd fans can't grasp the spending etc, they're not the brightest bunch.
Re: Tonight's football 13/5
Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 8:45 pm
by conyoviejo
Var and ref gets a decision right,never a pen
Re: Tonight's football 13/5
Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 8:54 pm
by Steve1956
tiger76 wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 7:20 pm
What exactly do these Utd supporters want, their team is probably going to finish 2nd, and could lift the EL in a couple of weeks, I get that they want rid of the owners, but hindering their own teams prospects seems a bizarre way to get their point across.
And if this fixture doesn't go ahead tonight it could have ramifications for the rest of the league, so it's vital that it goes ahead if at all possible, otherwise the whole integrity of the PL is under threat, imagine if Liverpool are awarded a 3-0 win in that scenario, and they then go on to pip somebody else to a CL spot on the final day, if I was a fan of Chelsea, Leicester or West Ham I'd be up in arms at that outcome.
I don't think they have a clue what they are protesting about
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Re: Tonight's football 13/5
Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 8:57 pm
by Steve1956
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Bruno Fernandes arguing that If a penalty is awarded even If It's for Liverpool, he should get to take it.
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Re: Tonight's football 13/5
Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 8:59 pm
by Rileybobs
conyoviejo wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 8:45 pm
Var and ref gets a decision right,never a pen
Why do Neville and Carragher keep going on about it? It was never a penalty.
Re: Tonight's football 13/5
Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 9:01 pm
by Conroysleftfoot
Rileybobs wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 8:59 pm
Why do Neville and Carragher keep going on about it? It was never a penalty.
Totally right, not a penalty. What is this obsession with the follow through? What is the player supposed to do?
Re: Tonight's football 13/5
Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 9:04 pm
by wilks_bfc
Firmino with a second for Liverpool just before half time
Re: Tonight's football 13/5
Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 9:08 pm
by Rileybobs
Conroysleftfoot wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 9:01 pm
Totally right, not a penalty. What is this obsession with the follow through? What is the player supposed to do?
Exactly. I think they’re taking this follow through thing too literally. Obviously if you take the ball and then plant your studs into the opponents knee then it is endangering the opponent. Harmlessly catching your opponent after playing the ball has never been a foul.
Re: Tonight's football 13/5
Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 9:10 pm
by Rowls
Going all round Twitter that Man Utd are gonna be charged with failing to control their social media rumours.
Potential 10 points deduction.
Re: Tonight's football 13/5
Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 9:11 pm
by Cirrus_Minor
Steve1956 wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 8:54 pm
I don't think they have a clue what they are protesting about
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There would have been none of this if Man City had not won the premier league.
Re: Tonight's football 13/5
Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 9:12 pm
by tiger76
Steve1956 wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 8:54 pm
I don't think they have a clue what they are protesting about
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HA! HA! classic Steve.
Re: Tonight's football 13/5
Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 9:22 pm
by wilks_bfc
1-3 Firmino again after bad defending from United and a spill from Henderson
Re: Tonight's football 13/5
Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 9:27 pm
by Conroysleftfoot
You have to laugh at every goal conceded when they try to play it out from the back. It's like fashion, somebody says something is 'in' so everybody tries to copy it, even if it is crap. now all the 'great ' coaches play out from the back, so everybody wants to do it. Absolutely hilarious.
Re: Tonight's football 13/5
Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 9:28 pm
by huw.Y.WattfromWare
As it stands.
6 points between Leicester, Chelsea & Liverpool.
Only 2 goals difference between all 3.
Liverpool have a game in hand still.
Chelsea play Leicester next week, after their FA Cup final.
Could get interesting.
Re: Tonight's football 13/5
Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 9:33 pm
by ClaretTony
jrgbfc wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 7:10 pm
United should forfeit the points if it can't be played tonight. You could argue that should have happened after the first game.
Looks as if they are doing the way they’re defending
Re: Tonight's football 13/5
Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 9:38 pm
by Conroysleftfoot
I think the game highlights the deficiencies of the Utd team. Against the lesser teams Fred and McTominay look good but against the top teams they look poor.
Re: Tonight's football 13/5
Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 9:38 pm
by gsyclaret
Trent A A has been superb so far
Re: Tonight's football 13/5
Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 9:39 pm
by tiger76
huw.Y.WattfromWare wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 9:28 pm
As it stands.
6 points between Leicester, Chelsea & Liverpool.
Only 2 goals difference between all 3.
Liverpool have a game in hand still.
Chelsea play Leicester next week, after their FA Cup final.
Could get interesting.
Makes Liverpool's visit to TM important that's for sure, we could probably end their top 4 hopes if we take something from that game.
Re: Tonight's football 13/5
Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 9:39 pm
by Conroysleftfoot
gsyclaret wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 9:38 pm
Trent A A has been superb so far
He's not playing against Dwight, so he will look good.
Re: Tonight's football 13/5
Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 9:40 pm
by gsyclaret
Commentator, fernandes goes down yelping again, ha,ha
Re: Tonight's football 13/5
Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 9:41 pm
by gsyclaret
Conroysleftfoot wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 9:39 pm
He's not playing against Dwight, so he will look good.
wouldn't have made much difference the way he's played tonight
Re: Tonight's football 13/5
Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 9:46 pm
by Spijed
gsyclaret wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 9:38 pm
Trent A A has been superb so far
He's always been very good attacking. He's just poor as a defender
