Loanees

[Woodleyclaret]

Not been our strength in the past but it might be a way to increase our quality without spending too much.

[RVclaret]

Agreed - Maitland Niles/Nelson from Arsenal and Gallagher from Chelsea are all realistic and would improve us.

[CnBtruntru]

Maitland Niles £52,000 Week
Nelson £38,000 a week
Gallagher £17,000 a week

Two of them earn more a week than I do a year, jesus.

[RVclaret]

Most of our squad on at least that amount per week

[Claretforshaw]

Fulham had 7, not sure why or how that is allowed, but didn’t do them any good. Maybe 1 possibly 2 but I am not keen on loanees.

[bobinho]

Agreed - Maitland Niles/Nelson from Arsenal and Gallagher from Chelsea are all realistic and would improve us.

I agree....

Shame we don't utilise this option like others do. Having said that, teams that do are already relegated.

I think due to our recent record in this area, i'd be very surprised if any clubs with decent enough players that need game time would let them come here.

[Vegas Claret]

the only loanee I would entertain would be with a "view to a permanent transfer" attached to him, or Mbappe

[Dark Cloud]

It's never been an option SD favours and when we have dabbled in the loan market it's tended to be something of a disaster, but tbh it really could help with strengthening for next season with some permanent buys bolstered by really useful, fully thought through loan signings who will actually enhance the team and play! However I feel SD will have to change his stance on loans for that to happen.

[Silkyskills1]

How long has Harrison been on loan at Leeds? Must be three seasons if not four.

[GodIsADeeJay81]

The likes of Liverpool require their loaned out players to get a minimum amount of game time and therein lies the problem.
If said player isn't performing, we are obliged to pick them regardless.

[GodIsADeeJay81]

How long has Harrison been on loan at Leeds? Must be three seasons if not four.

2018 he first went on loan, but its been renewed every season.
He's also valued at £20 million and I think its going to become a permanent transfer this summer.

[bobinho]

The likes of Liverpool require their loaned out players to get a minimum amount of game time and therein lies the problem.
If said player isn't performing, we are obliged to pick them regardless.

To be fair, that problem also exists with our own players...

[GodIsADeeJay81]

To be fair, that problem also exists with our own players...

Quite probably, but I suspect lower league managers are more accommodating than Dyche for that.

[Top Claret]

Loanes haven't done Fulham much good. We need players who roll their sleeves up and fight for the cause, other clubs rejects won't do this

[tiger76]

How long has Harrison been on loan at Leeds? Must be three seasons if not four.

Not sure but he's been with them for a while now, apparently he's going to sign permanently this summer for a fee of only £10m, which if true would be a steal for them.

[ksrclaret]

I think we need to make much better use of the loan market, but the job facing us this summer is not one for which we can patch over with a few loans.

[kentonclaret]

I think we need to make much better use of the loan market, but the job facing us this summer is not one for which we can patch over with a few loans.

So, not just Crystal Palace facing a difficult job over the summer then?

[buzzclarets79]

Fulham have 7 or so loans which I agree is far too many, but one or two certainly wouldn’t hurt us.
There’s a number of younger players at the bigger teams that are now realising they need to move in order to play.
Thought Harrison today on the wing had everything that we need, he’s made a home in Leeds from a loan. That’s what we need to look at doing.

[Top Claret]

If we wanted a quality experienced player in the loan market, it would possibly cost us 10 million for one season and we won't pay that

[Quickenthetempo]

We need to use the loan market properly.

Get a young star like Hudson odoi, Billy Gilbert, Mason Greenwood, Smith Rowe types.

Pay the 4m loan fee and get a 30m pound player in for the season. Use it to get players we could never afford, but to just cover the squad as nobody benefits.

[Top Claret]

Not sure but he's been with them for a while now, apparently he's going to sign permanently this summer for a fee of only £10m, which if true would be a steal for them.

He has more than likely cost them more than that in loan fees

[Newcastleclaret93]

Loanes haven't done Fulham much good. We need players who roll their sleeves up and fight for the cause, other clubs rejects won't do this

This is exactly what is wrong with the club at the moment.

We have 11 players who will graft for the badge but lack real quality.

We are crying out for some quality, if we could get two players with Defour type quality to compliment our work rate our squad would be transformed.

Someone like Willock, Gallagher on loan would be great.

[tiger76]

He has more than likely cost them more than that in loan fees

Possibly but he's been worth every penny to them. Compare his contribution to what some of our loans have offered in recent years and it's chalk and cheese.

Plus if they do sign him for £10m, it's feasible that he'll be worth much more in a year or two.

[ClaretTony]

The likes of Liverpool require their loaned out players to get a minimum amount of game time and therein lies the problem.
If said player isn't performing, we are obliged to pick them regardless.

We tried to sign a young Spurs player on loan in 2013. All looked good although they wanted a lot from us to sign him but then Spurs said that if he didn't play the full 90 minutes the fee would double. Imagine if he'd had to come off injured on 89 minutes in a game.

Anyway, they priced him out of the move and he now scores a lot of goals for Spurs.


As for loans being the way to go - Fulham have done well from it.

[CnBtruntru]

Loanees is not the Burnley way, simple.

[Steve-Harpers-perm]

Players like Harrison show there are loan players out there who would improve our squad. If they are signing him for 10 million that is an absolute steal.

[ClaretTony]

Players like Harrison show there are loan players out there who would improve our squad. If they are signing him for 10 million that is an absolute steal.

I know he is officially on loan but when did a loan player last go way past 100 league games for a club?

[Quickenthetempo]

Loanees is not the Burnley way, simple.

Not the Dyche way. I know he's been here so long people think both are the same.

But I think Burnley have had some great loans. Marriott and Cahill spring to mind.

[Top Claret]

Not the Dyche way. I know he's been here so long people think both are the same.

But I think Burnley have had some great loans. Marriott and Cahill spring to mind.

Ridiculous comparison, we are now a premier league club

[Quickenthetempo]

Ridiculous comparison, we are now a premier league club

We are, but we're also funded more like a championship club.

We can't afford 25m pound signings, so we might want to go down the route of loaning a couple.

Who knows?

[Top Claret]

When you pay peanuts you get monkeys the same applies to the loan market as we have proved in the past with the dross we have signed on loan

[Steve-Harpers-perm]

I know he is officially on loan but when did a loan player last go way past 100 league games for a club?

True! But I’m sure there are similar type players out there. An area we certainly needs to utilise more.

[warksclaret]

Its unbelievable with cash within the club being so scarce that we even refuse to exploit loans. We have done a bit of a U turn after successful loans of Kightley, and Keane who were good players for us. In the early years under SD we also loaned the Scandinavian forward from Fulham starting with a K-cant remember his name though

[DCWat]

Kakaniclicjokokovh or something

[KRBFC]

Its unbelievable with cash within the club being so scarce that we even refuse to exploit loans. We have done a bit of a U turn after successful loans of Kightley, and Keane who were good players for us. In the early years under SD we also loaned the Scandinavian forward from Fulham starting with a K-cant remember his name though

Kackanicklic

He was utter Kack too

I thought GKN was a decent little loan signing, he was constantly on the ball, really pinned West Brom in away from home.

[KRBFC]

Not the Dyche way. I know he's been here so long people think both are the same.

But I think Burnley have had some great loans. Marriott and Cahill spring to mind.

Djemba Djemba, Cork, I think my favourite ever loan was Nathan Dyer, I remember him coming on for his debut, his kit was enormous Milwall at home, midweek

[bf2k]

Maitland Niles £52,000 Week
Nelson £38,000 a week
Gallagher £17,000 a week

Two of them earn more a week than I do a year, jesus.

That’s crazy for 2 players nowhere near the first team at Arsenal

[CnBtruntru]

Not the Dyche way. I know he's been here so long people think both are the same.

But I think Burnley have had some great loans. Marriott and Cahill spring to mind.

Marriot 1991
Cahill 2004


We have too look at how much loans cost and I think 50,000 a week for someone is a ridiculous amount of money when they may only warm the bench if lucky and you could could pay someone else the same if they came on a free move.

[Jakubs Tash]

I don’t think Fulham having 7 loan players and being relegated is really relevant.

The point is that it is a market we need to utilise better. Currently we don’t utilise it at all which is ludicrous!

It gives us the chance to sign players on a ‘suck it and see’ basis if Dyche is uncertain about spending money and taking a ‘risk’ - particularly about any foreign players settling. It also gives a huge opportunity to sign players who would ordinarily be out of our price range but would make a huge difference to our starting XI.

[Quickenthetempo]

Marriot 1991
Cahill 2004


We have too look at how much loans cost and I think 50,000 a week for someone is a ridiculous amount of money when they may only warm the bench if lucky and you could could pay someone else the same if they came on a free move.

It might be ridiculous but 50k a week free transfers get you Dale Stephen's type players.

Anyway it's upto Dyche.

[DCWat]

I don’t think Fulham having 7 loan players and being relegated is really relevant.

The point is that it is a market we need to utilise better. Currently we don’t utilise it at all which is ludicrous!

It gives us the chance to sign players on a ‘suck it and see’ basis if Dyche is uncertain about spending money and taking a ‘risk’ - particularly about any foreign players settling. It also gives a huge opportunity to sign players who would ordinarily be out of our price range but would make a huge difference to our starting XI.

Although Fulham have been relegated, they’ve shown that it’s possible to bring in some quality loan players.

One or two of their signings would have been very welcome additions to our side.

Bringing in the number that they did wasn’t going to be an easy fit but one or perhaps two is something we should seriously consider.

[tiger76]

When you pay peanuts you get monkeys the same applies to the loan market as we have proved in the past with the dross we have signed on loan

Well! if we paid Danny Drinkwater in peanuts that's a lot of peanuts we spent. And if that's the type of loanee we're going to be scouting then no thanks, we don't need has-beens milking us for one last pay day, if we're going to get serious in the loan market then youngsters who we can offer regular minutes too, and maybe if all goes well then sign on a permanent deal is the way to go for me.

Gallagher at West Brom and Harrison at leeds are just 2 who spring to mind, but there must be more out there, Willock at Newcastle also fits that mould.

[kentonclaret]

There is no point in bringing in loan players if SD is reluctant to give them game time.

Patrick Bamford make 6 appearances spending a total of 33 minutes on the pitch.

Chalobah also made very few appearances.

Players will be reluctant for their clubs to send them to Burnley on loan just to sit on the bench. SD prefers his tight little group of players that he knows and trusts and any new signings may have to wait quite some time before getting a start.

[steve1264b]

Lets be honest here Chalobah was never better than what we had then or now.

Bamford wasn't better than what we had at the time, he went to Boro they got relegated.

The idea that Dyche won't pick a loanee because he is a loanee is rubbish.

If Bamford had been putting Mee and Tarks on their bums and firing the ball into the top corner in training he would have been in.

[Rileybobs]

Its unbelievable with cash within the club being so scarce that we even refuse to exploit loans. We have done a bit of a U turn after successful loans of Kightley, and Keane who were good players for us. In the early years under SD we also loaned the Scandinavian forward from Fulham starting with a K-cant remember his name though

I think our financial prudence is one of the reasons that we don’t exploit the loan market more. If we are paying the wages of a player it is preferable to own that player.

Secondly, and most importantly, I think that the team chemistry and mentality is such an important factor at Burnley. I suspect that it is much more difficult to find a loan signing who will give 100% to the cause and is committed to pulling fully in the same direction as the rest of the team.

The risks of making a poor loan signing possibly outweigh the advantages - see Drinkwater as an example. I doubt that signing did much to improve the togetherness.

[jojomk1]

The likes of Gilmour and Gallagher wouldn't get anywhere near a start here unless Cork, Westwood and Brownhill were injured

[KRBFC]

That’s crazy for 2 players nowhere near the first team at Arsenal

Stephens is on £38k p/w here

[Bordeauxclaret]

Stephens is on £38k p/w here

I’m glad you’ve had that confirmed in the last 24 hours. You were throwing wild guesses around yesterday.

[KRBFC]

I’m glad you’ve had that confirmed in the last 24 hours. You were throwing wild guesses around yesterday.

My guess of between 30-50k and figures posted for both scenarios were incredibly accurate.

[Petersa]

My youth was admittedly another era when the term squad player had still to be invented but I was always told there is no point signing a player who is not any better than what we have. I still think the same today, loan or permanent. I doubt Maitland_Niles would improve Brierfield over 80's let alone Burnley's first team.