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Everybody develops at a different rate. Shucks! I had my first shave yesterday and I'm 62.
And what part of your anatomy did you shave?
And what part of your anatomy did you shave?
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At 62 you have to go all over.
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I’m sure Dyche would turn around and remind him of what a strikers job is....Nonayforever wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 7:55 pmIf I was Vydra and got dropped just to see how Richardson performs, I would be seriously ****** off and would be banging the managers door down having it out with him.
He’s been good since he came in, but let’s not hide from the fact he doesn’t score goals
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Jebbison looked a real prospect to me. 17 and leading their line. Sometimes you just gotta give the young lads a chance.
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You can't win anything with kidssuperdimitri wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 5:17 amJebbison looked a real prospect to me. 17 and leading their line. Sometimes you just gotta give the young lads a chance.
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And sticking with a team of ageing workhorses, we were 1 place away from being relegated.....
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Sounds a lot closer than saying we stayed up by 11 pointsHerts Clarets wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 7:42 amAnd sticking with a team of ageing workhorses, we were 1 place away from being relegated.....
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Richardson won’t get any game time under Dyche unless every other possible option is injured.superdimitri wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 5:17 amJebbison looked a real prospect to me. 17 and leading their line. Sometimes you just gotta give the young lads a chance.
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I agree with you, I was just quoting the infamous Alan Hansen comment about the Man United squad of Beckham, Scholes, neville etc before they went on to win the league.Herts Clarets wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 7:42 amAnd sticking with a team of ageing workhorses, we were 1 place away from being relegated.....
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superdimitri wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 5:17 amJebbison looked a real prospect to me. 17 and leading their line. Sometimes you just gotta give the young lads a chance.
Makes you wonder why Sheff Utd ignored him for the first 34 games of the season
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I think a lot of this stems from the likes of Rooney or Owen, who were freaks really at that age. Kane didn't start a league game for Spurs until he was 20. Vardy didn't play league football at all until he was 25. There's loads of prospects you hear about, usually at Fulham or something, who play at 16 or 17 then you never hear of again.buzzclarets79 wrote: ↑Fri May 21, 2021 7:03 pmIf you’re good enough you’re old enough.
Players are getting blooded younger and younger these days, to the fact if you’ve not wowed and amazed everyone by 21/22 no longer a top prospect.
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To be fair he was on loan, then Injured. Not a bad return given he was playing in national league until Januaryclaretonthecoast1882 wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 8:50 amMakes you wonder why Sheff Utd ignored him for the first 34 games of the season
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Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 9:22 amTo be fair he was on loan, then Injured. Not a bad return given he was playing in national league until January
He joined Chorley on loan on Christmas Eve, so he was ignored until then.
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True, looks a talented kid thoughclaretonthecoast1882 wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 9:28 amHe joined Chorley on loan on Christmas Eve, so he was ignored until then.
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For some reason people have become obsessed with Lewis Richardson. Yes, he's 18 now but he's had a couple of seasons with injuries at times, is feeling his way back, been on the bench because of numbers. These calling for him to play, I wonder how much they've seen of him and on what basis they think he should be playing. We had it a few years ago with Ntumba Massanka when he was banging in the goals for the reserves, similarly with Dan Agyei.NottsClaret wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 9:06 amI think a lot of this stems from the likes of Rooney or Owen, who were freaks really at that age. Kane didn't start a league game for Spurs until he was 20. Vardy didn't play league football at all until he was 25. There's loads of prospects you hear about, usually at Fulham or something, who play at 16 or 17 then you never hear of again.
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That's kinda the entire point ain't it? meaningless games, a chance to blood young kids.claretonthecoast1882 wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 8:50 amMakes you wonder why Sheff Utd ignored him for the first 34 games of the season
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Richardson has pedigree and potential ahead of those other two, representing his country at junior level. I don't think anybody expects him to start every game or even make an appearance in meaningful games but it's a shame we didn't get to see him play towards the end of the season when everything was wrapped up. You just never know how it will work out, Dwight was brought on in the final game of 2018/19, 6 weeks later he was excellent against Olympiacos and has never looked back.ClaretTony wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 12:04 pmFor some reason people have become obsessed with Lewis Richardson. Yes, he's 18 now but he's had a couple of seasons with injuries at times, is feeling his way back, been on the bench because of numbers. These calling for him to play, I wonder how much they've seen of him and on what basis they think he should be playing. We had it a few years ago with Ntumba Massanka when he was banging in the goals for the reserves, similarly with Dan Agyei.
Also a big part of it is excitement at seeing a player from the youth team make an appearance for the first team, there's nothing in football like seeing a hungry young kid step up and play well. We were so painfully boring against Sheffield United, we threw 4 strikers on the pitch and continued to pump it long, I would've rather of seen something fresh and new instead of the tired old pairing of Rodriguez and Barnes.
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ClaretTony wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 12:04 pmFor some reason people have become obsessed with Lewis Richardson. Yes, he's 18 now but he's had a couple of seasons with injuries at times, is feeling his way back, been on the bench because of numbers. These calling for him to play, I wonder how much they've seen of him and on what basis they think he should be playing. We had it a few years ago with Ntumba Massanka when he was banging in the goals for the reserves, similarly with Dan Agyei.
I'm not sure "obsessed" is the right word, CT.
Talented lad for sure but perhaps needs to fill out a bit.
I have a feeling that some fans would like to see him given a bit of a run-out to see what he could do, and given that 3 out of our 4 current strikers are firing blanks I'm not surprised.
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You don’t have the clubs that were circling him pre signing without having potential and talent. He chose to stay, there must’ve been a conversation at that point about a pathway to the first team and minutes.ClaretTony wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 4:55 pmI’ve not seen enough of him to say that. You’ve obviously seen more of him.
Most academy lads are happy to sit, play, take a wage and then act surprised when they’re released. Not realising that they were the ‘fillers’ to enable players like Richardson come through.
Richardson is a generational talent, I am sure he will make it into the first team pre season and into the squad consistently.
No decent manager would’ve blooded the youngsters in three games that we were almost certain to lose. Keeping the energy hi and peaking for the Fulham game meant we would collapse.
I would’ve liked to have seen Manchini play, buy I understand why he didn’t.
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From what little I've seen of him I'd agree but for injury and then behind closed doors reasons I've not seen anything like as much of him as I might have done.Claret_tinted wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 6:10 pmYou don’t have the clubs that were circling him pre signing without having potential and talent. He chose to stay, there must’ve been a conversation at that point about a pathway to the first team and minutes.
Most academy lads are happy to sit, play, take a wage and then act surprised when they’re released. Not realising that they were the ‘fillers’ to enable players like Richardson come through.
Richardson is a generational talent, I am sure he will make it into the first team pre season and into the squad consistently.
No decent manager would’ve blooded the youngsters in three games that we were almost certain to lose. Keeping the energy hi and peaking for the Fulham game meant we would collapse.
I would’ve liked to have seen Manchini play, buy I understand why he didn’t.
Totally agree with you in not blooding youngsters in the sort of games we've had in the last week.
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A generational talent? Now that’s sticking your neck out , hope you are basing that on having seen him play regularly and an expertise in what a player needs to make that big step upClaret_tinted wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 6:10 pm
Richardson is a generational talent, I am sure he will make it into the first team pre season and into the squad consistently.
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I’m happy to put my neck out for this lad.
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If you’re right it will be of great benefit to the team
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How long has he got left on his contract?
I can't see the last bit of info from the squad list page on the mobile for some reason.
I can't see the last bit of info from the squad list page on the mobile for some reason.
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2022. so 1 season. If the club thinks he's got what it takes they'll need to show it.
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The next two months will be a good indication. If we sell a striker then it probably means he’s going to feature.
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So why didn't Dyche give him 10 minutes on Sunday just to show he's in the plans?boatshed bill wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 10:19 pm2022. so 1 season. If the club thinks he's got what it takes they'll need to show it.
We might just struggle to keep him?
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I understand the point, I would have liked 1 or 2 to get a game in the last one but if that was used as the reason I wouldn’t question it too much. Point I would make is Norwich affectivly did just that all season last year, it would seem to not have affected there kids too much.Claret_tinted wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 6:10 pmYou don’t have the clubs that were circling him pre signing without having potential and talent. He chose to stay, there must’ve been a conversation at that point about a pathway to the first team and minutes.
Most academy lads are happy to sit, play, take a wage and then act surprised when they’re released. Not realising that they were the ‘fillers’ to enable players like Richardson come through.
Richardson is a generational talent, I am sure he will make it into the first team pre season and into the squad consistently.
No decent manager would’ve blooded the youngsters in three games that we were almost certain to lose. Keeping the energy hi and peaking for the Fulham game meant we would collapse.
I would’ve liked to have seen Manchini play, buy I understand why he didn’t.
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I think the answer is in where Norwich finished and where we did.
Dyche works the squad incredibly hard both physically and mentally, with the view to finishing 17th or higher. That means players are sustaining an very high level of stress, for a prolonged period of time. Once we are safe, that stress drops off, Dyche relaxes, the squad relaxes and rightly we implode.
One of the reasons I felt we struggled at the start of the season is the inability to offload that stress with a proper break. Dyche had to try and periodise them back into performance far too early.
The physicality of football isn’t an issue for most players, it’s the constant and invasive mental stress of performance. It’s soul destroying. Those who point to money as a motivator, it’s not enough.
Norwich knew that they’d struggle to stay in the league last year, it was well documented that they’d not spend, that they’d use this as a first step to sustainability. There’s not as much stress and players know this is a shop window season.
Dyche works the squad incredibly hard both physically and mentally, with the view to finishing 17th or higher. That means players are sustaining an very high level of stress, for a prolonged period of time. Once we are safe, that stress drops off, Dyche relaxes, the squad relaxes and rightly we implode.
One of the reasons I felt we struggled at the start of the season is the inability to offload that stress with a proper break. Dyche had to try and periodise them back into performance far too early.
The physicality of football isn’t an issue for most players, it’s the constant and invasive mental stress of performance. It’s soul destroying. Those who point to money as a motivator, it’s not enough.
Norwich knew that they’d struggle to stay in the league last year, it was well documented that they’d not spend, that they’d use this as a first step to sustainability. There’s not as much stress and players know this is a shop window season.
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I agree.
Any young player or his advisors should be checking the progress of our Under 23 players.
He may think he has a better chance to progress elsewhere, which could well be right.
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What seems to be forgotten about Richardson is that he has spent the last 2 seasons, as a 16 and 17 year old, playing almost exclusively for the Under 23s, and not the Under 18s, as would be normal, and as the rest of his age group have been doing .So much for the club holding him back...
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I take it there is a long list of lads just turned 18 featuring regular for clubs in the first team at Premier League level
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Nobodies asking for regular football for him. But once we were safe then half hour in the last 3 games should have been a given.claretonthecoast1882 wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 11:27 amI take it there is a long list of lads just turned 18 featuring regular for clubs in the first team at Premier League level
Then we would have an idea if he's anywhere near.
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It may be that the professional football coaches who've been working with him for years already know if he's anywhere near without throwing him into some awful end of season dead rubber performances.
Similarly, any young footballer who can look at Dwight McNeil and think he needs to leave Burnley to get the chance he deserves needs to give his head a proper wobble.
Similarly, any young footballer who can look at Dwight McNeil and think he needs to leave Burnley to get the chance he deserves needs to give his head a proper wobble.
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Or we would destroy a kids confidence playing in a team that’s five steps off the pace. He’s a kid with all that goes with that.Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 11:38 amNobodies asking for regular football for him. But once we were safe then half hour in the last 3 games should have been a given.
Then we would have an idea if he's anywhere near.
The club should and have rightly protected him.
You and I don’t need to know if he’s near. Dyche, Richardson and the club need to know.
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McNeil and Richardson are very different players and will be treated differently. Richardson requires a different playing style to enable him.daveisaclaret wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 11:40 amIt may be that the professional football coaches who've been working with him for years already know if he's anywhere near without throwing him into some awful end of season dead rubber performances.
Similarly, any young footballer who can look at Dwight McNeil and think he needs to leave Burnley to get the chance he deserves needs to give his head a proper wobble.
He might well look at Styles and think he could take that path.
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Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 11:38 amNobodies asking for regular football for him. But once we were safe then half hour in the last 3 games should have been a given.
Then we would have an idea if he's anywhere near.
Don't you think the coaches who work with him every day know if he is anywhere near ?