New Kits 21/22
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Re: New Kits 21/22
What a great fan Chester is,complains about the sponsor deal,while not supporting the club financially.And illegally streaming games
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While morally I'm not keen on being sponsored by a betting company, I also acknowledge the club looses out if I don't buy a shirt and depending on what it looks like I might want one.
It's a bit like cutting my nose off to spite my face.
Not sure how you can justify not buying a shirt that displays the logo but then will sit in a ground full of new LED screens showing the logo every 2 minutes.
It's a bit like cutting my nose off to spite my face.
Not sure how you can justify not buying a shirt that displays the logo but then will sit in a ground full of new LED screens showing the logo every 2 minutes.
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To be fair les you are describing thousands of modern day fans.Les Lawrence wrote: ↑Mon Jul 19, 2021 10:28 pmWhat a great fan Chester is,complains about the sponsor deal,while not supporting the club financially.And illegally streaming games
Nearly everyone I know streams games instead of paying for them
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Yeah but not all em complain about the shirt sponsor ship deal.Thought a supporter was when you supported the club by going to games buying,tickets,shirts etc.
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If that’s your definition of a supporter then you are describing probably a very very small percentage.Les Lawrence wrote: ↑Mon Jul 19, 2021 10:35 pmYeah but not all em complain about the shirt sponsor ship deal.Thought a supporter was when you supported the club by going to games buying,tickets,shirts etc.
I imagine there are hundreds of thousands of Burnley fans around the world. Not all can financially contribute due to various reason and not all would want to given things such as the debt we have, the sponsors etc…
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Re: New Kits 21/22
different definition of supporter is all - you are a financial contributor, I am not apart from my TV licence - the BBC pays football over £300m a yearLes Lawrence wrote: ↑Mon Jul 19, 2021 10:35 pmYeah but not all em complain about the shirt sponsor ship deal.Thought a supporter was when you supported the club by going to games buying,tickets,shirts etc.
The sponsorship deal is just emblematic of my refusal to contribute, as are the wages, transfer fees, and greed of the biggest clubs that have driven the game to where people are happy to have their clubs owned by states, Oligarchs and businessmen who may have not actually invested anything other than time into the club (and they may even charge for that too) and then raise prices so that punters can service the loans they took out to buy it and cover their costs. None of these owners had much of a previous attachment to these clubs or areas they are in
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I absolutely get the dislike of betting companies, and the misery that betting can bring, and the destruction it can do.
But I appreciate that at the moment, betting companies pay the most. I think we all know Pace would prefer a different sponsor, and perhaps in the near future, that will be the case.
But, I have a far, far bigger issue with alcohol and the advertisement of alcohol in the game. Heineken, Budweiser, Amstel, Carling.. the list is endless over the years.
From my perspective, alcohol (and drugs) are the driving force behind the majority of crime, be it domestics, fights, shoplifting, mental health crises etc.
But I appreciate that at the moment, betting companies pay the most. I think we all know Pace would prefer a different sponsor, and perhaps in the near future, that will be the case.
But, I have a far, far bigger issue with alcohol and the advertisement of alcohol in the game. Heineken, Budweiser, Amstel, Carling.. the list is endless over the years.
From my perspective, alcohol (and drugs) are the driving force behind the majority of crime, be it domestics, fights, shoplifting, mental health crises etc.
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Greed, that's the driving force behind all the crimes on your list. Obviously mental health is a different matter.TsarBomba wrote: ↑Mon Jul 19, 2021 10:49 pmI absolutely get the dislike of betting companies, and the misery that betting can bring, and the destruction it can do.
But I appreciate that at the moment, betting companies pay the most. I think we all know Pace would prefer a different sponsor, and perhaps in the near future, that will be the case.
But, I have a far, far bigger issue with alcohol and the advertisement of alcohol in the game. Heineken, Budweiser, Amstel, Carling.. the list is endless over the years.
From my perspective, alcohol (and drugs) are the driving force behind the majority of crime, be it domestics, fights, shoplifting, mental health crises etc.
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Cheer up, Les, I'll buy you a keyring or something from the club shop if we bump into each other on the Turf next month.Les Lawrence wrote: ↑Mon Jul 19, 2021 10:35 pmYeah but not all em complain about the shirt sponsor ship deal.Thought a supporter was when you supported the club by going to games buying,tickets,shirts etc.
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Re: New Kits 21/22
great club , great history, but inevitably jumping into bed with the parasitic betting companies yet again. its like talk sport at the turf. Yeurghhhhh !!! facile.
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Yep, but you (we) all want the club to compete as well as possible with the big clubs......Wile E Coyote wrote: ↑Mon Jul 19, 2021 10:59 pmgreat club , great history, but inevitably jumping into bed with the parasitic betting companies yet again. its like talk sport at the turf. Yeurghhhhh !!! facile.
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yes I do, but the more squalid it gets, the less I care.boatshed bill wrote: ↑Mon Jul 19, 2021 11:05 pmYep, but you (we) all want the club to compete as well as possible with the big clubs......
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Perhaps like me you care a great deal but cannot abide what it has become so want to contribute less and less to the path on which it is travellingWile E Coyote wrote: ↑Mon Jul 19, 2021 11:16 pmyes I do, but the more squalid it gets, the less I care.
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You could give the key ring to Chester.If you drop it at his house,you could watch Burnley v Brighton on a illegal stream,and complain about our shirt sponsor
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Re: New Kits 21/22
no thanks
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Not quite reached your stage yet but I’ve certainly calmed down with my contribution over the years, I just put it down to the club no longer needing me to own everything stocked in the shop… But yes, there is a lack of intimacy compared to the old days, even our famously town/club feels corporate and soulless; but that is also efficiency and all we applaud it unfortunately, it is needed. I wouldn’t swap our success for the club, but I don’t feel close to it anymore.Chester Perry wrote: ↑Mon Jul 19, 2021 11:20 pmPerhaps like me you care a great deal but cannot abide what it has become so want to contribute less and less to the path on which it is travelling
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I am the same my contribution is going to be next to nothing this season especially after the takeover.elwaclaret wrote: ↑Tue Jul 20, 2021 12:11 amNot quite reached your stage yet but I’ve certainly calmed down with my contribution over the years, I just put it down to the club no longer needing me to own everything stocked in the shop… But yes, there is a lack of intimacy compared to the old days, even our famously town/club feels corporate and soulless; but that is also efficiency and all we applaud it unfortunately, it is needed. I wouldn’t swap our success for the club, but I don’t feel close to it anymore.
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Re: New Kits 21/22
Another new Umbro kit released - This time "the world's second favourite team" Chapecoense. I would be happy if that was our kit template ngl.
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Re: New Kits 21/22
This is an impassioned piece about the new shirt sponsor
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Does anyone have the stats to say how many burnleybfans have used data bet. Love bet and the like?Chester Perry wrote: ↑Tue Jul 20, 2021 9:34 pmThis is an impassioned piece about the new shirt sponsor
https://twitter.com/the_bigstep/status/ ... 9795096576
https://kevinrobinson.medium.com/some-t ... aa570e6b40
I like the odd bet now and then. And genuinely have never used any gambling sponsor we have been associated with other than Ladbroke and that’s zero to do with the fact they supported Burnley.
Also for all those against it. What viable alternatives can they recommend before they start discouraging the club from exploring such lucrative revenue streams when we are already at a huge commercial disadvantage to almost every other club in this league and plenty more in leagues below it.
I hope they are campaigning to ban Holland’s pies. Benedictine. And all other such businesses associated with the club.
Burnley fc. In association with central gym.
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The vast majority can control their alcohol intake so I’m not sure how far you can go with this. Then where does it stop ? Would we ban Holland’s Pies advertising because a few fans are glutinous and likely to have a heart attack although the majority can enjoy just the odd one and so on……. Coke …. Energy drinks …e cigs …TsarBomba wrote: ↑Mon Jul 19, 2021 10:49 pmI absolutely get the dislike of betting companies, and the misery that betting can bring, and the destruction it can do.
But I appreciate that at the moment, betting companies pay the most. I think we all know Pace would prefer a different sponsor, and perhaps in the near future, that will be the case.
But, I have a far, far bigger issue with alcohol and the advertisement of alcohol in the game. Heineken, Budweiser, Amstel, Carling.. the list is endless over the years.
From my perspective, alcohol (and drugs) are the driving force behind the majority of crime, be it domestics, fights, shoplifting, mental health crises etc.
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Sweets… Cars for burning fossil fuels… and don’t even start me on the role social media plays in damaging young people’s mental health…Boss Hogg wrote: ↑Tue Jul 20, 2021 11:19 pmThe vast majority can control their alcohol intake so I’m not sure how far you can go with this. Then where does it stop ? Would we ban Holland’s Pies advertising because a few fans are glutinous and likely to have a heart attack although the majority can enjoy just the odd one and so on……. Coke …. Energy drinks …e cigs …
Basically folk could find most businesses/sectors unethical to some degree or other, it just depends how strongly you feel about that particular issue.
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Re: New Kits 21/22
Well where is the new kit
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Our Chinese sponsors were aiming at their own market, not us.
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Re: New Kits 21/22
Saturday against Oldham.
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Re: New Kits 21/22
It’s just been posted on Facebook.
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Different but I like it.
Not a fan of home shorts not being white though.
Not a fan of home shorts not being white though.
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Doesn’t look too shabby
Also announced Umbro for the next 4yrs as well
Also announced Umbro for the next 4yrs as well
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Re: New Kits 21/22
The shirt looks great. I find the quality of the Umbro shirts a bit pap though, so disappointed there's another 4 years of them.
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No Tarks, usually models the new kit...hmmmmm
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Nice looking kit is that.
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Re: New Kits 21/22
Thumbs up from me
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Re: New Kits 21/22
monochrome with the sponsor - probably sensible , but overall looks like a training kit not matchday kit
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Best kit we have had in ages. Love it.
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I like it!
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Initially thought the sleeves were a bit teaclothlike but I actually like this. Not training gear at all. Not a bad kit at all. Some people whinge at anything and they probably don’t buy the kits anyway.
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Like it and the logo doesn’t dominate it. Looks as though this OAP will be making a purchase
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Love it. Best kit in ages!
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Re: New Kits 21/22
Is it just me or do some people take thinks a bit too far however serious the message - a see through kit to promote self checking for Testicular and Prostate cancer
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bunch of knobs.......Chester Perry wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 2:20 amIs it just me or do some people take thinks a bit too far however serious the message - a see through kit to promote self checking for Testicular and Prostate cancer
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Re: New Kits 21/22
Has it been mentioned when they go on sale?
Lad wants one.
Only offering last years kit on the app shop.
Lad wants one.
Only offering last years kit on the app shop.
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Saturday 7th August.Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 5:02 pmHas it been mentioned when they go on sale?
Lad wants one.
Only offering last years kit on the app shop.
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