Our summer window.

[Newcastleclaret93]

The way he’s spoken in recent interviews sounds like he’s planning to be here next season.

I read his last interview as, support me this window or I’m off

[KRBFC]

Which would be quite concerning considering the figures that some people are throwing around.

It's concerning anyway but what choice do we have now? fans have been fine with the debt taken on to buy the club, we need investment in the squad more than we needed new owners. I have absolutely no idea on ALK's plans regarding the debt, I'd like to think ALK will be paying it back themselves and not relying on the clubs income, a vicious cycle.

[taio]

It's concerning anyway but what choice do we have now? fans have been fine with the debt taken on to buy the club, we need investment in the squad more than we needed new owners. I have absolutely no idea on ALK's plans regarding the debt, I'd like to think ALK will be paying it back themselves and not relying on the clubs income, a vicious cycle.

I know many fans who haven't been fine with the leveraged takeover and debt secured against the club.

[NewClaret]

I think the exact phrase was “there are funds available”. No word on where them funds are coming from.

Will have a listen again when I get chance.

[KRBFC]

I know many fans who haven't been fine with the leveraged takeover and debt secured against the club.

I am one of them, seemed like I was just the negative minority for talking about it though.

[Silkyskills1]

Given up on pre/post match comments which are vacuous, to say the least. If he does remain then he has to be given the opportunity to compete in games rather than just take part.

[taio]

I am one of them, seemed like I was just the negative minority for talking about it though.

I know loads of people who have expressed concern.

[Silkyskills1]

Andros is only 29, Jed is 27 and has never even played in the premier league. For me it’s a no brainer which one I would choose. But do respect the view on going for some younger, maybe Mbuemo or someone like that.

Townsend will be 30 in July.

[buzzclarets79]

Think this window will see a full melt down from some posters on here and disappointment.

[superdimitri]

As mentioned already, Dyche will know from his contract what money there will be to spend. What wage/transfer budget he has.

It's pretty clear that the new board will be open with him. He's a reasonable man who won't demand too much. We need to get signings over the line.. it's been pretty embarrassing when we've been linked with players before and our penny pinching has led to the deal falling through.

[Woodleyclaret]

Townsend is complete crap.Hes a 10 min trier admittedly that's 10 mins more than some put in on Sunday but definitely not worth having.
We need to go for Allison who was sold by Bristol City.I think to a Greek side
He was skilful and a good creator of chances

[Spijed]

As mentioned already, Dyche will know from his contract what money there will be to spend. What wage/transfer budget he has.

It's pretty clear that the new board will be open with him. He's a reasonable man who won't demand too much. We need to get signings over the line.. it's been pretty embarrassing when we've been linked with players before and our penny pinching has led to the deal falling through.

Why is it embarrassing?

From the outside I suspect there is nothing but admiration and envy for what we have achieved.

The only clubs which are an embarrassment are clubs that spend money but who get relegated. They are the ones to be ridiculed.

[Jakubs Tash]

We need to go for Allison who was sold by Bristol City.I think to a Greek side
He was skilful and a good creator of chances

Wayne Allison? The Chief!

[GodIsADeeJay81]

As mentioned already, Dyche will know from his contract what money there will be to spend. What wage/transfer budget he has.

It's pretty clear that the new board will be open with him. He's a reasonable man who won't demand too much. We need to get signings over the line.. it's been pretty embarrassing when we've been linked with players before and our penny pinching has led to the deal falling through.

Utd were clearly penny pinching when they refused to meets Dortmunds valuation of Sancho last summer.

[taio]

Utd were clearly penny pinching when they refused to meets Dortmunds valuation of Sancho last summer.

I'm glad some clubs do. Otherwise the transfer market and the fees paid would be more out of control and excessive than they are now.

[KRBFC]

Townsend is complete crap.Hes a 10 min trier admittedly that's 10 mins more than some put in on Sunday but definitely not worth having.
We need to go for Allison who was sold by Bristol City.I think to a Greek side
He was skilful and a good creator of chances

Who?

[frankinwales]

Eliasson I think he means?....he did look good playing alongside Josh Brownhill..

Up the Clarets.

[Chester Perry]

Think in his last interview AP mentioned we have sufficient cash in the bank to be effective in the market.

If we have £10m - £15m in cash to spend this summer on transfers I can see the new owners being willing to commit to deals of £30m - £40m as a result of staged transfer payments - this will effectively be possible because of the work of the last owners to drive down this kind of debt over the last couple of years, that legacy should be virtually nil as of next month. Such deals tend to run over half to two thirds the length of the new players initial contract and have a marked impact on your future cash flow, so it is something you can do for a couple of windows at most but you are then effectively hamstrung until they are paid up unless you very significantly increase income.

There is some leeway in the wages budget to accommodate a couple of significant players as normality returns (before any outgoings) but beyond that staged transfer payment commitments compromise the ability to meet growing the wages budget. It should not be forgotten that we have already taken on debt servicing equal or more likely greater than a Chris Wood type transfer, and have committed to summer infrastructure spend likely to be some way in excess of £5m at the Turf and Gawthorpe, and as I have previously pointed out there are further additional financial commitments the new owners have taken on as a result of strategic and tactical choice.

It is not something I would recommend just something I see our new owners willing to do

[Nonayforever]

In order to keep Dyche, Pace is going to have to pull a rabbit out of a bag.

I can't see how Pace can achieve this sort of miracle with no cash. Yes, he can borrow cash but that isn't going to buy anyone on Dyche's wish list.
As CP states above, we may have leeway in the bargaining department with certain clubs but only if they are cash strapped or want to unload a player. That, as we have experienced before, isn't going to happen even when we had cash in the bank.
The type of player Dyche wants is a seriously good up & coming player that warrants eye watering amounts of money now-a-days ( Watkins / Adams ) or an experienced Premier league pro on big wages that is on the verge of being released.

Maybe, just maybe, Pace will be able to have a net spend and get one good young player and two old hands which may keep Dyche happy for a while.
My thoughts are that Pace is just a bullshi**r - does anyone know where Pace has bought this local house he keeps telling us is part of the unfolding story ?

[NewClaret]

If we have £10m - £15m in cash to spend this summer on transfers I can see the new owners being willing to commit to deals of £30m - £40m as a result of staged transfer payments - this will effectively be possible because of the work of the last owners to drive down this kind of debt over the last couple of years, that legacy should be virtually nil as of next month. Such deals tend to run over half to two thirds the length of the new players initial contract and have a marked impact on your future cash flow, so it is something you can do for a couple of windows at most but you are then effectively hamstrung until they are paid up unless you very significantly increase income.

There is some leeway in the wages budget to accommodate a couple of significant players as normality returns (before any outgoings) but beyond that staged transfer payment commitments compromise the ability to meet growing the wages budget. It should not be forgotten that we have already taken on debt servicing equal or more likely greater than a Chris Wood type transfer, and have committed to summer infrastructure spend likely to be some way in excess of £5m at the Turf and Gawthorpe, and as I have previously pointed out there are further additional financial commitments the new owners have taken on as a result of strategic and tactical choice.

It is not something I would recommend just something I see our new owners willing to do

I agree - one thing we can thank the previous owners for is leaving the new ones a pretty clean slate when it comes to transfer debt. Although that is partially explained by very low spend generally in the final years - whether that was due to a lack of willingness to spend or the budget available being insufficient to attract the players Dyche wanted, or a combination of the two leading to a complete relationship breakdown is anyone’s guess.

I personally don’t think they have any choice mate. Not if they want to retain the manager and give themselves the best chance of increasing the value of their asset. Whether it works will depend on how well they buy. If they recruit like Wilder we’re in trouble.

[Chester Perry]

does anyone know where Pace has bought this local house he keeps telling us is part of the unfolding story ?

as far as we know he is currently renting - what I would say is that wherever he lives it should not be posted on here or any other form of social media

[Newcastleclaret93]

as far as we know he is currently renting - what I would say is that wherever he lives it should not be posted on here or any other form of social media

Agreed. If things turn bad we don’t want people turning up at his house (like what happened to edwards)

[NewClaret]

as far as we know he is currently renting - what I would say is that wherever he lives it should not be posted on here or any other form of social media

Agreed. He’s doing far more than most foreign owners just by living in the area. I really don’t see the relevance whether that’s in rented or mortgaged accommodation. I also understand he lives with his partners, which probably means he’s working 24/7.

[NewClaret]

Eliasson I think he means?....he did look good playing alongside Josh Brownhill..

Up the Clarets.

I liked him too. Wicked cross on him. Played about 30 games for Nimes and scored 4 goals/3 assists (or something like that). Not amazing stats but potentially hindered by the team. I thought he’d be a fantastic sun winger to throw on with 10 minutes to go with the order to get the crosses in to Woody.

[KRBFC]

as far as we know he is currently renting

[Nonayforever]

as far as we know he is currently renting - what I would say is that wherever he lives it should not be posted on here or any other form of social media

I didn't actually mean does anybody know his exact address so that some idiot can turn up on his door step after a failed transfer window, I meant has he actually bought a house within a hour or so of Turf Moor - his office. He has stated on numerous occasions about living in the area. By contrast S Dyche has never, at any time to my knowledge, stated he is going to move to the area he currently works in.

[GodIsADeeJay81]

I didn't actually mean does anybody know his exact address so that some idiot can turn up on his door step after a failed transfer window, I meant has he actually bought a house within a hour or so of Turf Moor - his office. He has stated on numerous occasions about living in the area. By contrast S Dyche has never, at any time to my knowledge, stated he is going to move to the area he currently works in.

Dyche didn't want to uproot his family and being a manager is generally a short term job for the majority of managers.
Isn't he the 2nd or 3rd longest serving manager in the top 4 leagues?

[beddie]

I still think if an offer comes in for Dyche he might be off. Realistically he knows there’s not going to be that much available to spend. I can see the same thing happening again, we miss our targets, we’re left with the bargain basement and then what we’re also left with an unhappy Manager, (again) it’s a vicious circle. I really hope I’m wrong but we can’t go on like this, we need some quality bringing in and it has to be in these next few months, otherwise we all know where we’re going.

[Steve-Harpers-perm]

I still think if an offer comes in for Dyche he might be off. Realistically he knows there’s not going to be that much available to spend. I can see the same thing happening again, we miss our targets, we’re left with the bargain basement and then what we’re also left with an unhappy Manager, (again) it’s a vicious circle. I really hope I’m wrong but we can’t go on like this, we need some quality bringing in and it has to be in these next few months, otherwise we all know where we’re going.

Apart from Dyche and the new board no one has a clue what is available to spend this summer.

[Chester Perry]

Agreed. If things turn bad we don’t want people turning up at his house (like what happened to edwards)

or Celtic's outgoing Chairman who had an arson attack at his home last week

[Chester Perry]

Apart from Dyche and the new board no one has a clue what is available to spend this summer.

I would not necessarily expect Dyche to know either - it is very rare for Premier League and Championship managers to get that information these days

[JarrowClaret]

I don’t understand why people equate a good transfer window with how much is spent (Fulham). we need to buy the RIGHT players they can cost 50p for all I care. Clearly we will need to spend some money I can only imagine it won’t be close to the £40 mill some have mentioned unless we have a significant sale.

[superdimitri]

Utd were clearly penny pinching when they refused to meets Dortmunds valuation of Sancho last summer.

If you call that amount pennies yeah. I'm talking about our own penny pinching which is usually just a few million.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying we need to do what Aston Villa and Leeds are doing but there's definitely a point where if everything matches up it's worth paying some extra to get the deal done.

I don't like the inflated prices either but much the same as the cheating fiasco in the modem game, if we don't join in we will get left behind. Our own stance is not going to change anything in the league now there's even more big spenders and taking this stance (by previous ownership) almost got us relegated this year. We have to get deals over the line for the players we want.

Maybe if much like with the ESL people stood up against the fees something would be done, but we aren't going to have an effect on the market at all by penny pinching, some other team will just sign the player instead.

It's not just about transfer fees either. Contact negotiations are another thing. To be an attractive employer you have to offer more money on top of everything else.

Anyway, it's a waste it time making it into another 'where's the money gonna come from debate'. Fact is like Dyche says you need to pay up to stay in the division now.

[Steve-Harpers-perm]

I would not necessarily expect Dyche to know either - it is very rare for Premier League and Championship managers to get that information these days

On how much money he has for new players?

[Local cricketer]

Andros is only 29, Jed is 27 and has never even played in the premier league. For me it’s a no brainer which one I would choose. But do respect the view on going for some younger, maybe Mbuemo or someone like that.

Andros is that you

[FeedTheArf]

Would’ve liked us to go for him in January, but looks like Demarai Gray is available for peanuts again...

https://romapress.net/roma-interested-i ... arai-gray/

[jojomk1]

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/footb ... e-24184266

[Spijed]

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/footb ... e-24184266

With all due respect to him he really struggled at times against us in the recent game. You can see why Liverpool were miles off Man City this season with their current defence and he's a level or two below JT or Ben Mee.

[Targetman]

Would’ve liked us to go for him in January, but looks like Demarai Gray is available for peanuts again...

https://romapress.net/roma-interested-i ... arai-gray/

I wonder why??

[Jakubclaret]

Why is it embarrassing?

From the outside I suspect there is nothing but admiration and envy for what we have achieved.

The only clubs which are an embarrassment are clubs that spend money but who get relegated. They are the ones to be ridiculed.

Why? For having a go & failing, it’s better to have a go & fail than not to have a go at all, just because we don’t spend much money we seem to use it as some sort of a badge of honour & a barometer against other clubs who spend more & achieve less, I’ve got nothing but admiration for other clubs for trying even if doesn’t reflect with success & view it anything other than an embarrassment.

[Spijed]

Why? For having a go & failing, it’s better to have a go & fail than not to have a go at all, just because we don’t spend much money we seem to use it as some sort of a badge of honour & a barometer against other clubs who spend more & achieve less, I’ve got nothing but admiration for other clubs for trying even if doesn’t reflect with success & view it anything other than an embarrassment.

So basically, you'd rather spend money and get relegated, than stay in the prem?

[Newcastleclaret93]

So basically, you'd rather spend money and get relegated, than stay in the prem?

Spending money doesn’t mean you are going to be relegated. As Swiss ramble and the money insider regularly show, there is direct correlation between money spent and league finish. Burnley have booked that trend.

[TsarBomba]

So basically, you'd rather spend money and get relegated, than stay in the prem?

He didn’t say that though, did he.

If teams want to throw money at it, and have a go, then good luck to them. And yeah, I am a little envious at times.

I’m very proud of what we have achieved, but I would love us to to go out and splash a bit of cash on a young Steven Defour or a tricky right winger that gets bums off seats.

Edit- and spending some money is what the club desperately needs to do this summer. The fans needs it and you can sure as hell guarantee Dyche wants it too.

[Jakubclaret]

So basically, you'd rather spend money and get relegated, than stay in the prem?

It doesn’t have to that way at all, I’ve stated on other threads I’m not that carried away with the grandeur of the PL anyway. I wouldn’t necessarily like us to be relegated but I don’t see negative after negative in the championship like some people seem to do.

[AfloatinClaret]

...If teams want to throw money at it, and have a go, then good luck to them. And yeah, I am a little envious at times.

Which teams specifically are you envious of? Sunderland, Portsmouth, Wigan, Bradford, even perhaps Leeds, or how about Bolton, the money that they 'threw at it' put them ten years ahead of us.

[buzzclarets79]

I don’t understand why people equate a good transfer window with how much is spent (Fulham). we need to buy the RIGHT players they can cost 50p for all I care. Clearly we will need to spend some money I can only imagine it won’t be close to the £40 mill some have mentioned unless we have a significant sale.

Exactly this!

Leicester bought Kante & Mahrez for a combined total of just over 1 million.

We bought Mee & Tripps for think was around 3 million.

[Boss Hogg]

Good point about the fees. Whilst I’m not a fan of the obscene wages at all a free transfer on 50K week is better than a £15m player on 30K week. On a 3 year contract this would be £7.8million v £19.68 million. If other players learn of higher wages and don’t like it they can wait until their contract ends. By limiting the wage bracket and fees paid so strictly we are limiting the market we can shop in but it’s actually costing us more.

[AfloatinClaret]

...I have absolutely no idea on ALK's plans regarding the debt, I'd like to think ALK will be paying it back themselves and not relying on the clubs income, a vicious cycle.

Why on earth would you expect ALK to do that? They are not a charity nor have they bought the club as a hobby.
ALK primarily invested in the club to turn a profit, if their investment in and subsequent management of Burnley FC (The business) is successful, then the club will be able to to repay or at least service (pay the annual interest on) that debt, along with paying hefty annual salaries/bonuses to the people who ALK appoint to manage/direct the club for them and ultimately provide a healthy return to ALK on their own original investment. I don't see how ALK could achieve all those aims without our remaining in the Premiership or at worst bouncing between the Premiership and Championship, so I have no doubt that this is what ALK are planning to do.
However, if ALK have got their plan wrong and we were to go down and stay down, then ???????? Has it been ten year's yet since things went pear shaped at Bolton?

[MACCA]

It's that time of year again where the "spend 100m and risk the future of the club" "we cant pay 100k a week wages", or "what spend 100m like x team and get relegated" brigade come out.

Do these people realise there is a middle ground?

You can spend money without it being 100m
You can spend 100m and NOT get relegated
You dont HAVE to pay people 100k a week
Spending money DOES NOT mean instant relegation

There is such a thing as building slowly, stretching your budget and making some calculated and sensible risks

With the way some go on about the destruction spending money can do, they must live a very bland and dithery life.

[Boss Hogg]

I would have thought that the club will carry the debt ( with no intention of it being repaid) but ALK will try and increases revenues and brand value before flogging the club. I expect transfer fees will just add to the debt unless they are funded by player sales. Hopefully profits from player sales will help reduce the debt but it won’t reduce it massively.