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Our summer window.
Posted: Sun May 23, 2021 6:58 pm
by gandhisflipflop
I’d say that this summer has to be one of the biggest summers in our entire history. I don’t even know where to begin with what is needed. We are playing catch up from previous transfer windows and the cracks in the squad are now gaping holes. In my opinion we need to get rid of the following
Norris
Dunne
Brady
Stephens
Barnes
Bardsley.
Some of those have been fantastic servants and it’s with a heavy heart but if the above were to leave, we would need at least the following
1 x cb (as a minimum but would still only have 3 cbs)
1 x cm
2 x wingers
1 x striker
Some of the list on ‘departure list’ should be on there but are not purely because of the sheer numbers we would need to replace them this window (I’m thinking BPF, JBG and Jay). This is before we even think about if tarks or pope leaves.
We all know that for us to get 5 incomings in the summer will be a big ask but it’s the minimum in my opinion. Good luck to the board, SD and the recruitment team. We will need it.
Re: Our summer window.
Posted: Sun May 23, 2021 7:04 pm
by boatshed bill
gandhisflipflop wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 6:58 pm
I’d say that this summer has to be one of the biggest summers in our entire history. I don’t even know where to begin with what is needed. We are playing catch up from previous transfer windows and the cracks in the squad are now gaping holes. In my opinion we need to get rid of the following
Norris
Dunne
Brady
Stephens
Barnes
Bardsley.
Some of those have been fantastic servants and it’s with a heavy heart but if the above were to leave, we would need at least the following
1 x cb (as a minimum but would still only have 3 cbs)
1 x cm
2 x wingers
1 x striker
Some of the list on ‘departure list’ should be on there but are not purely because of the sheer numbers we would need to replace them this window (I’m thinking BPF, JBG and Jay). This is before we even think about if tarks or pope leaves.
We all know that for us to get 5 incomings in the summer will be a big ask but it’s the minimum in my opinion. Good luck to the board, SD and the recruitment team. We will need it.
Contracted to BFC until:
Norris 2023
Stephens 2022
Barnes 2022
Bardsley 2022
Dunne and Brady OOC 2021.
If you can find takers for the top 4 you need to change career and become an agent
Re: Our summer window.
Posted: Sun May 23, 2021 7:04 pm
by nyclaret
I just can't see it happening.
Re: Our summer window.
Posted: Sun May 23, 2021 7:04 pm
by BabylonClaret
Well Stephens and Bardsley are here until this time next year so they won't be going.
Forme the key is getting some players in who can grow into the roles and be a decent squad option immediately apart from. A wide right player who we desperately need to provide some balance and take pressure off McNeil.
Others can be Tarkowski/Brownhill type signings who are able to step in for injuries and provide the press for places to keep the first eleven sharp and then come through to our new first eleven as ut develops
Re: Our summer window.
Posted: Sun May 23, 2021 7:05 pm
by BabylonClaret
Bit we need to hold on to all our assets for 12 months so we buy space for those newer players to bed ubtk the squad
Re: Our summer window.
Posted: Sun May 23, 2021 7:07 pm
by Rileybobs
I doubt there’ll be much in the way of strengthening to the first eleven. The squad needs numerous additions though as Dyche pointed out in his not so subtle message to Alan Pace in the post match interview.
I don’t think the overhaul required is as big as many make out, but this clearly is our most important transfer window in some time.
Re: Our summer window.
Posted: Sun May 23, 2021 7:08 pm
by gandhisflipflop
boatshed bill wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 7:04 pm
Contracted to BFC until:
Norris 2023
Stephens 2022
Barnes 2022
Bardsley 2022
Dunne and Brady OOC 2021.
If you can find takers for the top 4 you need to change career and become an agent
I say we employ whoever the agent is for Roberto Martinez
Re: Our summer window.
Posted: Sun May 23, 2021 7:12 pm
by OssyClaret
It’s an impossible job to do everything that’s needed given where previous custodians have left it.
First job is 3 new contracts for Dyche, Mee and Tarkowski
Next Job is to replace the following glaring holes in the squad.
CB
RM
Final job is to replace Bardsley, Long, JBG, Brady, Stephens, Jay and Ash
Job obviously becomes more difficult with departures!!
Re: Our summer window.
Posted: Sun May 23, 2021 7:17 pm
by Hedontplayforyou
One option for Stephens would be Nottingham Forest with Hughton in charge and a massive overhaul on the cards this summer for them.
Re: Our summer window.
Posted: Sun May 23, 2021 7:18 pm
by Rileybobs
OssyClaret wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 7:12 pm
It’s an impossible job to do everything that’s needed given where previous custodians have left it.
First job is 3 new contracts for Dyche, Mee and Tarkowski
Next Job is to replace the following glaring holes in the squad.
CB
RM
Final job is to replace Bardsley, Long, JBG, Brady, Stephens, Jay and Ash
Job obviously becomes more difficult with departures!!
That final job is quite sizeable, and hugely unrealistic in a single transfer window.
Re: Our summer window.
Posted: Sun May 23, 2021 7:18 pm
by SalisburyClaret
If no one leaves other perhaps Brady - Maybe a right winger and a centre back will be added
Re: Our summer window.
Posted: Sun May 23, 2021 7:18 pm
by Top Claret
Cork needs replacing he looks buggered. We can make do with the right sided midfield berth with JBG, and giving Brady a further 12 months, but a quality central midfielder to play along side Westwood is a must.
Our squad is too threadbare to hsve a clear out, we need to bring players in first and then trim down the squad
Re: Our summer window.
Posted: Sun May 23, 2021 7:24 pm
by gandhisflipflop
Top Claret wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 7:18 pm
Cork needs replacing he looks buggered. We can make do with the right sided midfield berth with JBG, and giving Brady a further 12 months, but a quality central midfielder to play along side Westwood is a must.
Our squad is too threadbare to hsve a clear out, we need to bring players in first and then trim down the squad
There is no way we can make do with JBG on the right IMO. He is far too injury prone and the same with Brady. How many have they both played this season? I don’t have the stats but I’m sure someone does. Can’t be that many either way.
Re: Our summer window.
Posted: Sun May 23, 2021 7:25 pm
by randomclaret2
Top Claret wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 7:18 pm
Cork needs replacing he looks buggered. We can make do with the right sided midfield berth with JBG, and giving Brady a further 12 months, but a quality central midfielder to play along side Westwood is a must.
Our squad is too threadbare to hsve a clear out, we need to bring players in first and then trim down the squad
If Brady gets another deal, we are in trouble
Re: Our summer window.
Posted: Sun May 23, 2021 7:25 pm
by KRBFC
OUT:
Cork - not good enough since injury, slow, weak and negative with the ball. (could stay as 3rd/4th choice if Stephens leaves)
Rodriguez - nowhere near good enough anymore
Brady - cant stay fit and rubbish
Dunne - on evidence of today, never gonna be good enough.
Norris - LOL
Bardsley - I like Bardsley, he's been consistently injured and he's 35 years old, we need youth.
Stephens - genuinely looks like a pub league player, so past it and on an enormous wage.
IN
3rd choice keeper
3rd choice CB (Tark future replacement)
2 wide players (1 to start immediately)
1 striker (to start immediately)
right back (either young to replace Lowton eventually or one to immediately replace Lowton).
CM (first choice immediately).
Re: Our summer window.
Posted: Sun May 23, 2021 7:29 pm
by KRBFC
Gonna be difficult to shift these old players on enormous wages
Re: Our summer window.
Posted: Sun May 23, 2021 7:32 pm
by Top Claret
randomclaret2 wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 7:25 pm
If Brady gets another deal, we are in trouble
We will have bigger problems if Westwood doesn't get a lift in CM. Cork is past it and Brownhill not good enough
Re: Our summer window.
Posted: Sun May 23, 2021 7:42 pm
by Newcastleclaret93
Only players I would keep are Pope, Tarks, Mee, Taylor, Westwood, McNeil, Wood, Vydra
The rest can all go. None of the rest are close to being good enough anymore
Re: Our summer window.
Posted: Sun May 23, 2021 7:48 pm
by fidelcastro
It doesn’t seem two minutes since people were saying how much better and balanced we look with Cork back in midfield... now folk want rid? Amazing!
Re: Our summer window.
Posted: Sun May 23, 2021 7:48 pm
by randomclaret2
Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 7:42 pm
Only players I would keep are Pope, Tarks, Mee, Taylor, Westwood, McNeil, Wood, Vydra
The rest can all go. None of the rest are close to being good enough anymore
See KRBFCs comment...
Re: Our summer window.
Posted: Sun May 23, 2021 7:49 pm
by fidelcastro
Re: Our summer window.
Posted: Sun May 23, 2021 7:53 pm
by jrgbfc
Problem is even if clubs in the Championship show interest in the likes of Stephens and Barnes they may decide they'd rather sit out their contracts with us, rather than take a big pay cut.
Re: Our summer window.
Posted: Sun May 23, 2021 7:57 pm
by Vegas Claret
We need pace and quality, it' not up for debate this summer, by hook or by crook the team needs fresh blood in the starting 11
Re: Our summer window.
Posted: Sun May 23, 2021 8:01 pm
by gandhisflipflop
jrgbfc wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 7:53 pm
Problem is even if clubs in the Championship show interest in the likes of Stephens and Barnes they may decide they'd rather sit out their contracts with us, rather than take a big pay cut.
Although personally I would be looking to get rid, we could probably carry Stephens and Barnes along for another 12 months. And that is only because there are other areas that seriously need work. We won’t repair this over 1 window, but we need to start the repair work this summer.
Re: Our summer window.
Posted: Sun May 23, 2021 8:09 pm
by KRBFC
gandhisflipflop wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 8:01 pm
Although personally I would be looking to get rid, we could probably carry Stephens and Barnes along for another 12 months. And that is only because there are other areas that seriously need work. We won’t repair this over 1 window, but we need to start the repair work this summer.
We face the same issue in every area though, Bardsley is signed up for another year. Ivan Toney just scored 30+ goals in the Championship and he reportedly earns the same salary as we pay Bardsley.
Which Championship club is stupid enough to make 35 year old Phil Bardsley their highest earner? this summer there's gonna be a mass amount of free transfers available with the Covid cost cutting.
Re: Our summer window.
Posted: Sun May 23, 2021 8:15 pm
by leelad
The 1st signing of this Summer has to be Sean Dyche with an extension to his current contract. Sean is best placed to rebuild this team, he has a big job on his hands. The honeymoon period for Alan Pace and his team is now over.
Re: Our summer window.
Posted: Sun May 23, 2021 8:15 pm
by randomclaret2
fidelcastro wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 7:49 pm
I'd rather not.
Maybe so, but it seems factually correct to me.
Re: Our summer window.
Posted: Sun May 23, 2021 8:17 pm
by randomclaret2
'Which Championship club is stupid enough to make 35 year old Phil Bardsley their highest earner? this summer there's gonna be a mass amount of free transfers available with the Covid cost cutting.'
36 next month
Re: Our summer window.
Posted: Sun May 23, 2021 8:18 pm
by CombatClaret
I think we should all get our hopes up for a bumper summer window, can't see how that can backfire.
Re: Our summer window.
Posted: Sun May 23, 2021 8:18 pm
by Newcastleclaret93
leelad wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 8:15 pm
The 1st signing of this Summer has to be Sean Dyche with an extension to his current contract. Sean is best placed to rebuild this team, he has a big job on his hands. The honeymoon period for Alan Pace and his team is now over.
The way I interpreted his post match interview, it seems like it will be another summer of disappointment. Dyche will walk next season
Re: Our summer window.
Posted: Sun May 23, 2021 8:19 pm
by fidelcastro
randomclaret2 wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 8:15 pm
Maybe so, but it seems factually correct to me.
Factually correct that most of the squad should leave?
Aye, alright then!
Re: Our summer window.
Posted: Sun May 23, 2021 8:20 pm
by fidelcastro
Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 8:18 pm
The way I interpreted his post match interview, it seems like it will be another summer of disappointment. Dyche will walk next season
Didn't you say that last season though?
Re: Our summer window.
Posted: Sun May 23, 2021 8:20 pm
by Vino blanco
Three central midfielders for me. If Westy, Corky and Brownhilly are our midfield next season we will struggle like we have this season: it would be another season of fighting to avoid relegation.
Re: Our summer window.
Posted: Sun May 23, 2021 8:20 pm
by Newcastleclaret93
fidelcastro wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 8:20 pm
Didn't you say that last season though?
No I didn’t.
This season is the first time I have said I think we will be relegated next season and I think Dyche will walk.
Re: Our summer window.
Posted: Sun May 23, 2021 8:22 pm
by fidelcastro
It never ceases to amaze me how privy some posters on here are to the details of players' salaries.
Re: Our summer window.
Posted: Sun May 23, 2021 8:23 pm
by Newcastleclaret93
fidelcastro wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 8:22 pm
It never ceases to amaze me how privy some posters on here are to the details of players' salaries.
Just google it? Not that difficult
Re: Our summer window.
Posted: Sun May 23, 2021 8:24 pm
by fidelcastro
Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 8:20 pm
No I didn’t.
This season is the first time I have said I think we will be relegated next season and I think Dyche will walk.
A new signing for the Moaners XI.
Re: Our summer window.
Posted: Sun May 23, 2021 8:25 pm
by fidelcastro
Players are posting their salaries on the Internet now?
Interesting.
Re: Our summer window.
Posted: Sun May 23, 2021 8:26 pm
by Newcastleclaret93
fidelcastro wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 8:24 pm
A new signing for the Moaners XI.
It’s not exactly an out there statement. We have needed reinforcements for 3 seasons
Re: Our summer window.
Posted: Sun May 23, 2021 8:26 pm
by CombatClaret
Vino blanco wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 8:20 pm
Another season of fighting to avoid relegation.
There's barely mid table teams anymore, it's the top 7 and everyone else so fighting to avoid relegation will be the reality for a long time.
Re: Our summer window.
Posted: Sun May 23, 2021 8:28 pm
by fidelcastro
Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 8:26 pm
It’s not exactly an out there statement. We have needed reinforcements for 3 seasons
And people have been saying Dyche will walk for at least three seasons!
Re: Our summer window.
Posted: Sun May 23, 2021 8:29 pm
by buzzclarets79
If I was you I’d prepare for disappointment, the normal excuses will be rolled out, value for money, it’s hard, yada yada.
I’d say 8/9 at least that started today will start the first game next season when in all reality we need to improve quality right through the team.
Not sure where Tarks thinks he’ll be going, especially if they’ve scouted him for last 5/6 matches.
Re: Our summer window.
Posted: Sun May 23, 2021 8:30 pm
by randomclaret2
fidelcastro wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 8:19 pm
Factually correct that most of the squad should leave?
Aye, alright then!
I was commenting on his post about it being difficult to move on high earners
Re: Our summer window.
Posted: Sun May 23, 2021 8:31 pm
by Rileybobs
Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 7:42 pm
Only players I would keep are Pope, Tarks, Mee, Taylor, Westwood, McNeil, Wood, Vydra
The rest can all go. None of the rest are close to being good enough anymore
What a load of rubbish. If they weren’t close to being good enough then we wouldn’t have avoided relegation so comfortably...again.
Re: Our summer window.
Posted: Sun May 23, 2021 8:34 pm
by NewClaret
It’s going to be a very interesting summer, not just for us but generally.
I think there will be less money about than many expect and a huge number of clubs looking to sell/reduce their wage bills. Just hope we have a good window for once.
Re: Our summer window.
Posted: Sun May 23, 2021 8:34 pm
by DCWat
Top Claret wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 7:18 pm
Cork needs replacing he looks buggered. We can make do with the right sided midfield berth with JBG, and giving Brady a further 12 months, but a quality central midfielder to play along side Westwood is a must.
Our squad is too threadbare to hsve a clear out, we need to bring players in first and then trim down the squad
You want rid of Cork but want to offer Brady a further twelve months because the squad is threadbare?
I’d be looking to bolster the right wing and bring in one, perhaps two central midfielders who would push Cork and Westwood more into reserve. Brownhill so far for me has been a mistake.
I suspect right back will wait until next summer - hasn’t Bardsley been given an extra year? We then need two centre halves, three if Tarkowski leaves.
Oh and add to that a goalkeeper, based on the efforts of Norris and BPF.
We won’t do all of that in one window, but previous have left us in a position where recruitment numbers required are bigger than is the ideal in a single window.
Re: Our summer window.
Posted: Sun May 23, 2021 8:34 pm
by taio
Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 7:42 pm
Only players I would keep are Pope, Tarks, Mee, Taylor, Westwood, McNeil, Wood, Vydra
The rest can all go. None of the rest are close to being good enough anymore
Fantasy land
Re: Our summer window.
Posted: Sun May 23, 2021 8:39 pm
by fidelcastro
randomclaret2 wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 8:30 pm
I was commenting on his post about it being difficult to move on high earners
That all depends on whether these high earners still want first team football or not at a level below, whether they'd be allowed to leave in any case, what the difference is in wages between what the two clubs would pay and whether we could utilise the loan system to assist these players.
Never as black and white as some would believe.
Re: Our summer window.
Posted: Sun May 23, 2021 8:41 pm
by Conroy92
Might be wrong but thought Stephens had an option for us to terminate his contract this summer?
Can only echo the OP's sentiments. Big window needed.
I'd agree with all of Brady, Stephens, Norris and with a heavy heart Barnes and Bardsley to go.
Looking at the OOC players list I think we can get some relatively good additions on frees. Townsend and Shlupp would be two good additions out wide, Josh King would be a good addition up top and the right back from Napoli would also be a good signing. That would leave us with 1x CB (unless Tarks goes) and 1x CM required.
Re: Our summer window.
Posted: Sun May 23, 2021 8:43 pm
by Hedontplayforyou
Conroy92 wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 8:41 pm
Might be wrong but thought Stephens had an option for us to terminate his contract this summer?
Can only echo the OP's sentiments. Big window needed.
I'd agree with all of Brady, Stephens, Norris and with a heavy heart Barnes and Bardsley to go.
Looking at the OOC players list I think we can get some relatively good additions on frees. Townsend and Shlupp would be two good additions out wide, Josh King would be a good addition up top and the right back from Napoli would also be a good signing. That would leave us with 1x CB (unless Tarks goes) and 1x CM required.
Hysaj from Napoli?
