Crystal Palace contact Burnley over Dyche compensation fee

[Spijed]

Id bet the story is just a load of made up rubbish but anyone who thinks Dyche isn't easily capable of keeping Palace up next season regardless of if they lose Zaha or not clearly under estimates how good a manager he is.

I think the Palace situation would be perfect for Dyche if they wanted him as expectations would be low the first year and give Dyche 12 months with the kind of budget Palace has compared to us and getting them challenging for top half in season 2 would be no problem for him

Considering we've had two top half finishes, one in Europe what more could he achieve with Palace?

Unless they get a Saudi prince as a new owner they won't be doing much better than that.

[Zlatan]

The £50m “war chest” is a joke right... that’s 2 players in the current market (inc wages) they have a MASSIVE rebuild to do, that won’t cut it IMO - relegation candidates for me

[Devils_Advocate]

Considering we've had two top half finishes, one in Europe what more could he achieve with Palace?

Unless they get a Saudi prince as a new owner they won't be doing much better than that.

I would suggest he is more likely to get Palace into the top half and Europe over the next three years than he would with Burnley. What he has done in the past with us is not relevant to what he can achieve with us or another club in the future.

He might not be interested in trying and Palace might not be interested in letting him try but I think given a bigger a budget Dyche could achieve better results.

[Vegas Claret]

He hasn't been as good this season, I think we'd all agree on that, but to suggest he's declined since getting into the first team I just can't accept after the previous season and a half.

not been as good because he's our only real attacking outlet most games, nothing much happens on the other wing so far easier for our opponents to double up on him. Get a good RW and he will do some damage for sure

[GodIsADeeJay81]

The £50m “war chest” is a joke right... that’s 2 players in the current market (inc wages) they have a MASSIVE rebuild to do, that won’t cut it IMO - relegation candidates for me

Of course its a joke, but it sounds impressive to the average fan who doesn't keep track on football financially

[Devils_Advocate]

The £50m “war chest” is a joke right... that’s 2 players in the current market (inc wages) they have a MASSIVE rebuild to do, that won’t cut it IMO - relegation candidates for me

Yes the idea of a "war chest" of any kind is a joke as unless you factor in your overall budget including wages then its pretty irrelevant.

[Leisure]

The £50m “war chest” is a joke right... that’s 2 players in the current market (inc wages) they have a MASSIVE rebuild to do, that won’t cut it IMO - relegation candidates for me

But aren't we always!

[Silkyskills1]

I would suggest he is more likely to get Palace into the top half and Europe over the next three years than he would with Burnley. What he has done in the past with us is not relevant to what he can achieve with us or another club in the future.

I've read and re-read that and it still makes no sense.

[COBBLE]

Its all about opinions but mine is that BFC under new ownership is more likely to achieve the top half/Europe outcome than under the old ownership and will be at least as attractive an option as Palace. So I agree with DA on this "What he (SD) has done in the past with us is not relevant to what he can achieve with us or another club in the future."

[Clarets4me]

You've got considerably less chance of being stabbed, shot or fire-bombed in a luxury apartment in Whalley, than you do in Croydon !!

[Newcastleclaret93]

Interesting listen on Talksport now. Townsend seems to be suggesting that all of the players out of contract have been told that contract offers are ready just waiting for the new managers approval.

Maybe not such a big overhaul after all

[ecc]

"Hellish rebuilding job but plenty of money"

I'm not up to speed on Palace's financial situation but seems to me like they've only spent circa. £20m in the last two seasons.

[ClaretMov]

You've got considerably less chance of being stabbed, shot or fire-bombed in a luxury apartment in Whalley, than you do in Croydon !!

Have you never been for a night out in Whalley

[s6t9a2f3f]

Interesting listen on Talksport now. Townsend seems to be suggesting that all of the players out of contract have been told that contract offers are ready just waiting for the new managers approval.

Maybe not such a big overhaul after all

But surely as free agents, no transfer fees the club has put them in a position where they can easily earn more money elsewhere ???

[Spijed]

Interesting listen on Talksport now. Townsend seems to be suggesting that all of the players out of contract have been told that contract offers are ready just waiting for the new managers approval.

Maybe not such a big overhaul after all

And yet we are told our squad is too old. Haven't they got the oldest team in the league?

[GodIsADeeJay81]

Interesting listen on Talksport now. Townsend seems to be suggesting that all of the players out of contract have been told that contract offers are ready just waiting for the new managers approval.

Maybe not such a big overhaul after all

So they're stuck in limbo hoping the new manager wants them and they may not find out for an unknown period of time?
I'll be surprised if all of the players are hanging on in hope.

[Dark Cloud]

But what better challenge could Crystal Palace offer?

Have they got into Europe in the last few seasons, for example?

They haven't even come close.

I don't think it's always about "better challenge" Spijed, but sometimes about a "different/new" challenge. And after 8 years and trying to put myself in the shoes of a professional football manager like SD and not simply a fan, I can guess that many people would start to become interested in taking on a new challenge, especially when you're in a position which isn't afforded to many football managers I.E. Quit whilst you're ahead!!! Feeling a bit stale and moving on to a fresh challenge happens to people in all walks of life and my worry is that eventually it will happen to SD and 8 years is eons in footballing terms. Plus, I'd suggest that although ALK have indicated there will be money for signings, we still won't be signing a shed load of players and we'll still be shopping in the economy section compared to most other PL clubs, so it's not going to be at all easy to rebuild a team to finish comfortably in the top half on the money available at Burnley.

[GodIsADeeJay81]

And yet we are told our squad is too old. Haven't they got the oldest team in the league?

Yes they have so another thing to consider is any new manager has to decide if he keeps the 12 and has a full rebuild next year, or keeps some with a number of replacements still needed etc.

£50 million will need some very shrewd usage to fill gaps

[jrgbfc]

Realistically Dyche has achieved all he can with us. After 9 years I wouldn't blame him if he fancied a new challenge.

[Claret_tinted]

I'd be confident a different manager would get more out of our more technically gifted players. McNeil in particular has gone backwards since he came into the team under Dyche

As opposed to the free flowing uninhibited football he was playing under Howe?

HE’S ONLY PLAYED UNDER DYCHE

Give your head a wobble fella, then come back with something useful.

[randomclaret2]

Maybe its Dyche's ability to work with an ageing squad that changes little season on season that attracts them.

[ClaretMov]

By the time they pay us compensation they won't have a transfer budget

[Spijed]

When clubs talk about going to the fabled 'Next level' you have to look at who Palace would be competing against money wise.

The likes of Leicester, Everton, West Ham, Villa and possibly Wolves. Looking at those teams then Palace fall far, far short of being able to compete with them on a regular basis.

[JohnMac]

All this talk of Palace rebuilding because they have so many players out of contract - what is to say those same players aren't under consideration for new contracts?

Have said players all expressed a desire to leave do we know?

I have no idea but just think it's another media induced problem.

Edit
Just seen post above regarding Townsend, so yes, media induced tripe as per..

[Nonayforever]

I've no doubt that Palace may enquire about the likely compensation fee Burnley would require if they could lure Dyche. That is a simple telephone conversation that helps the financial guys at Palace put a plan together.
It doesn't mean they want him or that he wants to go.

Would Dyche want to leave Burnley ? The answer is yes if a better gig came up, but what is better for Dyche ?

More money for him - yes. More money to spend - yes. More potential - yes, meaning a city team. More stability - yes, an established Premier League team. More power - I presume no, because having power increases your work load, and I think Dyche would like to lessen his load or delagate more as he gets older & wiser.
The question is who could offer him what he wants ?

The only team that comes to my mind is Everton.

[Spijed]

All this talk of Palace rebuilding because they have so many players out of contract - what is to say those same players aren't under consideration for new contracts?

Have said players all expressed a desire to leave do we know?

I have no idea but just think it's another media induced problem.

Edit
Just seen post above regarding Townsend, so yes, media induced tripe as per..

If that's the case, and they are renewing contracts of ageing players, it strongly suggests that they have little money to spend.

You don't keep hold of so much deadwood if you have a decent amount of money to spend.

[randomclaret2]

If that's the case, and they are renewing contracts of ageing players, it strongly suggests that they have little money to spend.

You don't keep hold of so much deadwood if you have a decent amount of money to spend.

Sounds familiar...

[warksclaret]

A big factor will be the relationship and trust that currently exists between Alan Pace and SD. If good I think SD will remain

[Devils_Advocate]

I've read and re-read that and it still makes no sense.

Yep its not the best structured post I have ever done. Basically I was just saying I think Dyche would have more chance getting Palace into the top 10 or into Europe in the next 3 seasons than he would getting Burnley into the top ten or into Europe in the next three years.

[tiger76]

This is the 1st really big test of ALK and Pace's leadership, and if they want to keep SD then they may have to show some serious commitment in the transfer market, as well as offering him an improved contract.

This story just won't go away will it, and we need a resolution one way or the other sooner rather than later, if SD is going to Palace he'll leave with my blessing, but I'll also have a heavy heart as whoever succeeds him will have incredibly big shoes to fill, and the odds on Burnley remaining in the PL come the end of next season will be greatly reduced should the worst happen and Sean decides to take the plunge.

[JohnMac]

Guaranteed to get more money if you leak a rumour to the press yourself regarding leaving for pastures new.

Not saying this is the Dyche story but think about the general concept, Harry Kane etc.

Hell of a dirty business is football.

[Bin Ont Turf]

The yardstick usually is how far the potential club he's going to is from Northampton.

Let's hope we can move Turf Moor to just south of Macclesfield in the next week or so. Yawn.

[simonclaret]

Guaranteed to get more money if you leak a rumour to the press yourself regarding leaving for pastures new.

Not saying this is the Dyche story but think about the general concept, Harry Kane etc.

Hell of a dirty business is football.

Just like Paul Lambert did to us a few years back.

[boatshed bill]

The £50m “war chest” is a joke right... that’s 2 players in the current market (inc wages) they have a MASSIVE rebuild to do, that won’t cut it IMO - relegation candidates for me

That's more like a "skirmish chest", or smaller?? "Incursion", perhaps?

[dougcollins]

Apart from geographic location - and let's be honest, it's in a sh!t part of London - I don't see Palace as being a step up in any way.

But I'm not Dyche.

[Local cricketer]

Interesting listen on Talksport now. Townsend seems to be suggesting that all of the players out of contract have been told that contract offers are ready just waiting for the new managers approval.

Maybe not such a big overhaul after all

Well hopefully the new Palace manager likes him because I don’t want him within a 50 mile radius of the turf unless he’s playing against us

[boatshed bill]

An old mentor of mine used to say "Never fear change, it often works out for the good"

[Zlatan]

An old mentor of mine used to say "Never fear change, it often works out for the good"

Do I know you bill? That’s one of my sayings

[Right_winger]

Not overly fussed if he leaves or not. We are at the point of needed a refresh anyway.

[boatshed bill]

Do I know you bill? That’s one of my sayings

I doubt it, Zlatan, but I like a bit of Sri Chimnoy, and positvism

[jojomk1]

As suggested by another poster

Where is the credence for this rumour

Without concrete proof as to the origins (if indeed there are any), the story could just as easily come from someone close to SD as anyone else

[jurek]

Read somewhere that the compensation is 3m which sounds about right
given Dyche has one year left on his current deal.
3m won't put Palace off I would have thought if they really want him.
But not sure Palace would wish to offer Dyche a significant pay rise.
He's on a decent whack at Burnley.
It looks as if Zaha will be leaving so that would boost the amount they could spend.
If so then more than likely they would be able to spend much more on
incoming players than Pace is willing to.

Either way Dyche will need to rebuild whether it be at Palace or at Burnley.
Whatever it needs to be sorted relatively quickly.

The difference is that if he stays at Burnley he knows he's got a job for the next 2/3 years
irrespective of how well we fare

Be interesting to see what the Pace does but suspect he'll offer
Dyche a little more money but a modest amount in terms of transfer money.

[Spike]

I have a mate who is a Palace fan
He thinks Swansea’s Cooper is favourite based on his agent being at the Arsenal game

[matucana]

Some reports emerging this evening that Howe is a possible for CP. Not going down well north of the border.

[Steve-Harpers-perm]

Some reports emerging this evening that Howe is a possible for CP. Not going down well north of the border.

But will be going down well with Howe’s wife.

[KRBFC]

Woan would be at Palace as Dyche's assistant, not managing us. As for the 'better football', I'm in your camp, the results I'm sure would be worse and I would fear the drop in a year's time if anyone but Dyche was in charge.

I agree, we simply have to back Dyche now, there’s simply no excuses anymore

[dsr]

Interesting listen on Talksport now. Townsend seems to be suggesting that all of the players out of contract have been told that contract offers are ready just waiting for the new managers approval.

Maybe not such a big overhaul after all

If any of those players are offered a contract by someone else, a verbal offer from Palace "we'll keep you on if the new manager agrees" isn't going to make them want to stay.

[Damo]

Surprised there's no one willing to drive him there themselves yet....

There will be a moron or two willing to make that journey. There's a couple of people on this forum that I reckon would be stupid enough

[Vegas Claret]

my ONLY concern with this is Dyche isn't going to get a "big" job because he's only managed little old Burnley, he could use Palace as a stepping stone if he does well. FWIW I don't think he will go.

[superdimitri]

my ONLY concern with this is Dyche isn't going to get a "big" job because he's only managed little old Burnley, he could use Palace as a stepping stone if he does well. FWIW I don't think he will go.

Not sure they are really that much of a step up though to be honest. I think Dyche would be more likely to look at clubs like Aston Villa or Leicester or West Ham as a step up.

Inevitably though it's only a matter of time one of these clubs sacks their manager comes after him.

If he goes to Crystal Palace then it will be a very bad sign for us and what we fear is true: that the new owners can't offer enough money for player wages and transfers to strengthen the team.

If I were Dyche I'd use this to my advantage and tell the new ownership that he wants to make x amount of signings with y amount of money. I've said it before but even if we don't have big transfer fees to spend we need to get recruitment right to get adequate numbers in. If that means making more Bardsley or Pieters like signings instead of younger players just so we can the squad depth so be it.