Crystal Palace contact Burnley over Dyche compensation fee

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Crystal Palace contact Burnley over Dyche compensation fee

Post by Inchy » Thu May 27, 2021 11:43 am


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Re: Crystal Palace contact Burnley over Dyche compensation fee

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Thu May 27, 2021 11:47 am

This one just won’t go away.

Let’s hope Palace can’t lure him away
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Re: Crystal Palace contact Burnley over Dyche compensation fee

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Thu May 27, 2021 11:55 am

£50 million isn't much considering the work needed there

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Re: Crystal Palace contact Burnley over Dyche compensation fee

Post by Targetman » Thu May 27, 2021 12:01 pm

Football Insider......
Is Nixon on their payroll?

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Re: Crystal Palace contact Burnley over Dyche compensation fee

Post by MACCA » Thu May 27, 2021 12:21 pm

Surprised there's no one willing to drive him there themselves yet....

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Re: Crystal Palace contact Burnley over Dyche compensation fee

Post by Terrier » Thu May 27, 2021 12:24 pm

Now evens on sky bet, fairly sure he was 7/1 earlier this week!
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Re: Crystal Palace contact Burnley over Dyche compensation fee

Post by Milltown1882 » Thu May 27, 2021 12:31 pm

Him and Lampard pretty much level favourites on William Hill, was 10/1 the other day.

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Re: Crystal Palace contact Burnley over Dyche compensation fee

Post by Spijed » Thu May 27, 2021 12:43 pm

Targetman wrote:
Thu May 27, 2021 12:01 pm
Football Insider......
Is Nixon on their payroll?
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Re: Crystal Palace contact Burnley over Dyche compensation fee

Post by fidelcastro » Thu May 27, 2021 12:56 pm

Silly season has officially started.

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Re: Crystal Palace contact Burnley over Dyche compensation fee

Post by minnieclaret » Thu May 27, 2021 12:57 pm

Lampard has already said he doesn’t want it. Major rebuild needed there. They’ll end up with some guy recently retired from playing.

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Re: Crystal Palace contact Burnley over Dyche compensation fee

Post by fidelcastro » Thu May 27, 2021 12:59 pm

minnieclaret wrote:
Thu May 27, 2021 12:57 pm
Lampard has already said he doesn’t want it. Major rebuild needed there. They’ll end up with some guy recently retired from playing.
Tom Heaton?

:D

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Re: Crystal Palace contact Burnley over Dyche compensation fee

Post by AlargeClaret » Thu May 27, 2021 1:22 pm

Hellish rebuilding job but plenty of money and plenty of base talent to build from . He must be very tempted and rightly so. I seriously hope we give him the investment our squad desperately needs to avoid almost certain relegation without it

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Re: Crystal Palace contact Burnley over Dyche compensation fee

Post by bf2k » Thu May 27, 2021 1:24 pm

AlargeClaret wrote:
Thu May 27, 2021 1:22 pm
Hellish rebuilding job but plenty of money and plenty of base talent to build from .
Really?

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Re: Crystal Palace contact Burnley over Dyche compensation fee

Post by jedi_master » Thu May 27, 2021 1:24 pm

Real test for the new team at Burnley here.

They need to sell their vision to Dyche, they need to provide him funds, and they need to give him a payrise - I suspect all would be required to get him to sign a new contract, but that's based on nothing other than my anxiety over the possibility of him leaving!

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Re: Crystal Palace contact Burnley over Dyche compensation fee

Post by joey13 » Thu May 27, 2021 1:41 pm

jedi_master wrote:
Thu May 27, 2021 1:24 pm
Real test for the new team at Burnley here.

They need to sell their vision to Dyche, they need to provide him funds, and they need to give him a payrise - I suspect all would be required to get him to sign a new contract, but that's based on nothing other than my anxiety over the possibility of him leaving!
You would have hoped they have already sold their vision by now
That could well be the problem

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Re: Crystal Palace contact Burnley over Dyche compensation fee

Post by bfcjg » Thu May 27, 2021 1:42 pm

Had a quick look at their forum they mention Cooper a few times, Dychecand Hodgson very similar, perhaps they want more excitement .
I think it would end in tears if Dyche went, massive rebuilding required and with that comes extremely dull football whilst you consolidate, would he get time ?

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Re: Crystal Palace contact Burnley over Dyche compensation fee

Post by Tribesmen » Thu May 27, 2021 1:44 pm

Or Sean is a happy bunny as he knows he is getting cash for players and now on his holidays with his family with a new contract in the bag with the Clarets , maybe .

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Re: Crystal Palace contact Burnley over Dyche compensation fee

Post by Dark Cloud » Thu May 27, 2021 1:53 pm

SD is in a win/win right now. Excellent contract at Burnley with loads of genuine "power" to go with his huge salary, plus the promise of money to spend on strengthening over the summer. BUT is it all a bit too late and having endured the same pretty crap season we've all endured and having pretty much reached breaking point last summer under the previous owners, does he feel it's all gone a bit stale after a massive (almost unheard of in football terms) 8 years? Has he already got one eye on the next opportunity and is suddenly open to good offers which present a realistic new challenge? IMO Palace would definitely be one of those IF could be assured of similar levels of control over signings and outgoings, academy etc. We'll see, but I really, really hope not!

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Re: Crystal Palace contact Burnley over Dyche compensation fee

Post by beddie » Thu May 27, 2021 2:02 pm

“ Dyche was first contacted by Palace in January about the possibility of succeeding Roy Hodgson.” is that classed as “tapping up” ? and against the rules.

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Re: Crystal Palace contact Burnley over Dyche compensation fee

Post by Jakubs Tash » Thu May 27, 2021 2:09 pm

With Crystal Palace finally now having a managerial vacancy it has come to the time where both Crystal Palace AND Burnley need to 'put up or shut up'.
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Re: Crystal Palace contact Burnley over Dyche compensation fee

Post by Spijed » Thu May 27, 2021 2:13 pm

Dark Cloud wrote:
Thu May 27, 2021 1:53 pm
SD is in a win/win right now. Excellent contract at Burnley with loads of genuine "power" to go with his huge salary, plus the promise of money to spend on strengthening over the summer. BUT is it all a bit too late and having endured the same pretty crap season we've all endured and having pretty much reached breaking point last summer under the previous owners, does he feel it's all gone a bit stale after a massive (almost unheard of in football terms) 8 years? Has he already got one eye on the next opportunity and is suddenly open to good offers which present a realistic new challenge? IMO Palace would definitely be one of those IF could be assured of similar levels of control over signings and outgoings, academy etc. We'll see, but I really, really hope not!
But what better challenge could Crystal Palace offer?

Have they got into Europe in the last few seasons, for example?

They haven't even come close.

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Re: Crystal Palace contact Burnley over Dyche compensation fee

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Thu May 27, 2021 2:17 pm

Spijed wrote:
Thu May 27, 2021 2:13 pm
But what better challenge could Crystal Palace offer?

Have they got into Europe in the last few seasons, for example?

They haven't even come close.
This argument happens every time this is brought up. For me the question is as simple as, where is he going to get better resources.

If Palace is your answer then it is a more desirable role. Similarly if Burnley offer better resources then Burnley is a better role. Dyche has had minimal funds for this division and is pulling of miracles just to stay in the league. Do you not think it would be easier for Dyche if he had better resources? He is probably thinking to himself I have had two top ten finishes with no money, what could I achieve with more?

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Re: Crystal Palace contact Burnley over Dyche compensation fee

Post by Superjohnnyfrancis » Thu May 27, 2021 2:18 pm

anything north of £10m compo should do it for me, Give Woan the job see if he can get us playing better football

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Re: Crystal Palace contact Burnley over Dyche compensation fee

Post by Juan Tanamera » Thu May 27, 2021 2:39 pm

When 'sources' and 'understands' are some of the first words I see, then I stop reading any further.
It's like listening to Sky Sports News.

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Re: Crystal Palace contact Burnley over Dyche compensation fee

Post by jtv » Thu May 27, 2021 2:40 pm

Superjohnnyfrancis wrote:
Thu May 27, 2021 2:18 pm
anything north of £10m compo should do it for me, Give Woan the job see if he can get us playing better football
I guess (fear) that the backroom team will go lock, stock and barrel with Dyche if he goes.
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Re: Crystal Palace contact Burnley over Dyche compensation fee

Post by ClaretTony » Thu May 27, 2021 2:44 pm

I've been told that, as yet, there has been no approach for Dyche. I'm not saying there won't be but right now I am still pretty confident that he will be staying at Burnley and that he could sign a new deal.
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Re: Crystal Palace contact Burnley over Dyche compensation fee

Post by Tall Paul » Thu May 27, 2021 2:46 pm

Superjohnnyfrancis wrote:
Thu May 27, 2021 2:18 pm
anything north of £10m compo should do it for me, Give Woan the job see if he can get us playing better football
Woan (or any other manager) might get us playing "better football" but I expect the results would be worse.

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Re: Crystal Palace contact Burnley over Dyche compensation fee

Post by ClaretTony » Thu May 27, 2021 2:49 pm

Tall Paul wrote:
Thu May 27, 2021 2:46 pm
Woan (or any other manager) might get us playing "better football" but I expect the results would be worse.
Woan would be at Palace as Dyche's assistant, not managing us. As for the 'better football', I'm in your camp, the results I'm sure would be worse and I would fear the drop in a year's time if anyone but Dyche was in charge.
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Post by Wile E Coyote » Thu May 27, 2021 2:51 pm

I dont think he would consider a move to palace as a step up. They aren't that good, and there will be all manner of shenanigans behind the scenes regarding money. frying pan /fire job.
If he were to leave us it would have to to a club with some real financial clout so that he could prove himself as a manager with top class players at his disposal. No point leaving Burnley then having to go cap in hand to beg for a bit of spending money to shore up another aging squad with the only difference being it in London.

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Re: Crystal Palace contact Burnley over Dyche compensation fee

Post by Denno97 » Thu May 27, 2021 2:51 pm

I'd be confident a different manager would get more out of our more technically gifted players. McNeil in particular has gone backwards since he came into the team under Dyche

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Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Thu May 27, 2021 2:52 pm

Denno97 wrote:
Thu May 27, 2021 2:51 pm
I'd be confident a different manager would get more out of our more technically gifted players. McNeil in particular has gone backwards since he came into the team under Dyche
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Re: Crystal Palace contact Burnley over Dyche compensation fee

Post by s6t9a2f3f » Thu May 27, 2021 2:53 pm

It needs sorting ASAP as if a new man has to come in I'm sure no 2 managers have the same transfer targets.

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Re: Crystal Palace contact Burnley over Dyche compensation fee

Post by tarkys_ears » Thu May 27, 2021 2:55 pm

1) anyone looking for a manager would be "enquiring" about Dyche

2) That source looks like a proper legit football writers accredited website and NOT a piece of **** clickbait dumping ground

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Re: Crystal Palace contact Burnley over Dyche compensation fee

Post by jedi_master » Thu May 27, 2021 2:56 pm

s6t9a2f3f wrote:
Thu May 27, 2021 2:53 pm
It needs sorting ASAP as if a new man has to come in I'm sure no 2 managers have the same transfer targets.
I cannot agree with this more.

This has been a long standing rumour/concern for quite a while now and we have definitely reached the point of "Are you staying, yes or no". We need a really strong transfer window, we cannot need that PLUS a new manager going into June. It would be disastrous.

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Re: Crystal Palace contact Burnley over Dyche compensation fee

Post by ClaretTony » Thu May 27, 2021 2:58 pm

Denno97 wrote:
Thu May 27, 2021 2:51 pm
I'd be confident a different manager would get more out of our more technically gifted players. McNeil in particular has gone backwards since he came into the team under Dyche
McNeil has gone backwards since he came into the team? So how good was he before he came into the team when he was playing u23 football?
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Post by Spijed » Thu May 27, 2021 2:58 pm

tarkys_ears wrote:
Thu May 27, 2021 2:55 pm

That source looks like a proper legit football writers accredited website and NOT a piece of **** clickbait dumping ground
In what way does it look better than any other rumour/gossip site?

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Post by ClaretTony » Thu May 27, 2021 3:00 pm

tarkys_ears wrote:
Thu May 27, 2021 2:55 pm
1) anyone looking for a manager would be "enquiring" about Dyche

2) That source looks like a proper legit football writers accredited website and NOT a piece of **** clickbait dumping ground
The source that you believe to proper legit reads: "An industry source told Football Insider that Palace have approached Burnley to assess what it will take to lure Dyche down south in a clear indication he’s a top target."

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Post by Denno97 » Thu May 27, 2021 3:00 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Thu May 27, 2021 2:58 pm
McNeil has gone backwards since he came into the team? So how good was he before he came into the team when he was playing u23 football?
This season in particular he hasn't been as good. Whether it's just him or how we set up tactically it doesn't suit players with flair like him

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Post by tarkys_ears » Thu May 27, 2021 3:01 pm

It's called sarcasm...
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Post by bf2k » Thu May 27, 2021 3:09 pm

Denno97 wrote:
Thu May 27, 2021 2:51 pm
I'd be confident a different manager would get more out of our more technically gifted players. McNeil in particular has gone backwards since he came into the team under Dyche
What size rod you using? Steel or nylon wire?

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Re: Crystal Palace contact Burnley over Dyche compensation fee

Post by Vegas Claret » Thu May 27, 2021 3:11 pm

50 million warchest to build 3/4 of a team, good luck with that. Also, compensation fee is 49.9 million !

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Re: Crystal Palace contact Burnley over Dyche compensation fee

Post by NRC » Thu May 27, 2021 3:16 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Thu May 27, 2021 2:49 pm
Woan would be at Palace as Dyche's assistant, not managing us. As for the 'better football', I'm in your camp, the results I'm sure would be worse and I would fear the drop in a year's time if anyone but Dyche was in charge.
that's quite a dramatic statement, CT..... so literally any other manager, eh?

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Re: Crystal Palace contact Burnley over Dyche compensation fee

Post by ClaretTony » Thu May 27, 2021 3:17 pm

Denno97 wrote:
Thu May 27, 2021 3:00 pm
This season in particular he hasn't been as good. Whether it's just him or how we set up tactically it doesn't suit players with flair like him
He hasn't been as good this season, I think we'd all agree on that, but to suggest he's declined since getting into the first team I just can't accept after the previous season and a half.

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Re: Crystal Palace contact Burnley over Dyche compensation fee

Post by wilks_bfc » Thu May 27, 2021 3:20 pm

tarkys_ears wrote:
Thu May 27, 2021 3:01 pm
It's called sarcasm...
I thought was obvious in you initial post tbh

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Re: Crystal Palace contact Burnley over Dyche compensation fee

Post by Woodleyclaret » Thu May 27, 2021 3:21 pm

The most important person to negotiate is Alan Pace
Get Sean's deal signed asap and let's move on.

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Re: Crystal Palace contact Burnley over Dyche compensation fee

Post by burnley007 » Thu May 27, 2021 3:23 pm

I cannot even comprehend Burnley without Sean Dyche. it's a terrifying thought!!

I don't want to even consider potential replacements, I just want Sean to stay, please!!
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Re: Crystal Palace contact Burnley over Dyche compensation fee

Post by Wile E Coyote » Thu May 27, 2021 3:47 pm

burnley007 wrote:
Thu May 27, 2021 3:23 pm
I cannot even comprehend Burnley without Sean Dyche. it's a terrifying thought!!

I don't want to even consider potential replacements, I just want Sean to stay, please!!
agreed,not a cat in hells chance of us having survived in this division without him .I struggle to think of a potential replacement who could continue the job as successfully.

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Re: Crystal Palace contact Burnley over Dyche compensation fee

Post by Spijed » Thu May 27, 2021 3:47 pm

If Zaha is rumoured to be wanted by Spurs then that would leave a massive hole in their side as the stats prove they struggle without him.

That would make any rebuilding job even harder if SD were to go there.

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Re: Crystal Palace contact Burnley over Dyche compensation fee

Post by Gordaleman » Thu May 27, 2021 3:58 pm

Very little actual football for the rags to report on, so this type of story is bound to get more air.

If it happens, it happens. Somehow, I doubt it will. ALK and Alan Pace in particular have stated openly just how much they admire Sean, and I'm sure that they will do everything they can to keep him. After all, if he's on £3.5 million as reported, that's nothing in the big scheme of things. I'm sure ALK will improve that this summer.
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Re: Crystal Palace contact Burnley over Dyche compensation fee

Post by Devils_Advocate » Thu May 27, 2021 3:58 pm

Id bet the story is just a load of made up rubbish but anyone who thinks Dyche isn't easily capable of keeping Palace up next season regardless of if they lose Zaha or not clearly under estimates how good a manager he is.

I think the Palace situation would be perfect for Dyche if they wanted him as expectations would be low the first year and give Dyche 12 months with the kind of budget Palace has compared to us then getting them challenging for top half in season 2 would be no problem for him

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