The quickest way to end the Dyche to Palace debate is for BFC to announce Sean's new deal. Inevitably, in this slow football news off season speculation re Sean's future will continue.

He might now want to sign a new deal right now

Because his advisers will want more money, bonuses and benefits for him and we will be trying to lower his already mammoth wage.

The contract will need to be more focused around ALK preferences rather than Garlicks.

He’s probably just assessing his options.

Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑

Sat May 29, 2021 8:05 am

Because his advisers will want more money, bonuses and benefits for him and we will be trying to lower his already mammoth wage.

The contract will need to be more focused around ALK preferences rather than Garlicks.

I can't imagine they would want to change the basis and structure of the deal i.e. good basic salary relatively speaking, with a generous bonus for retaining PL status.

He may fancy the Tottenham job?

Will be interesting to see just how much SD values loyalty now that Palace are apparently after him.

TBH I've lost a lot of my interest in the comings and goings of players and managers with the amount of money in fees and wages that they get paid these days. No manager or player in the Prmeier League will be poor could probably live the rest of their life of the money they earn. I will always be a Burnley supporter no matter which division we're in and just try to enjoy watching the matches which are televised although some are more enjoyable than other (Wolves v Leeds for example)

I know from a football purists point of view that they won't agree with me but I have far more interest in watching the Brentford v Swansea match today than City v Chelsea final. The football might not be as good but the effort and need to win will compensate for that.

I used to enjoy watching English teams like Forest and Liverpool in Europe in the 80's because they were made of mostly British players. I have no interest in watching British teams made up of almost entirely of foreign players but I have just realised I've digressed from the topic so ignore my ravings

Hopefull SD will stay but if he doesn't I won't lose any sleep over it, I just hope we'd bring in someone with the same ethics.

Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑

Sat May 29, 2021 8:05 am

Because his advisers will want more money, bonuses and benefits for him and we will be trying to lower his already mammoth wage.

The contract will need to be more focused around ALK preferences rather than Garlicks.

The one thing that won't be even mentioned would be a reduction in Sean's salary.

Maybe he's on a well earned holiday with his family

taio wrote: ↑

Sat May 29, 2021 8:16 am

I can't imagine they would want to change the basis and structure of the deal i.e. good basic salary relatively speaking, with a generous bonus for retaining PL status.

If we need to cut costs with the pandemic and lack of sponsor (so far) etc.. then at over 5m per year Dyches wage is our biggest outgoing.

We can't trim the squad anymore.

The board know he’s the vital cog in the machine. He won’t go unless the move represents a significant opportunity to progress his career. There’s probably only 9 or 10 clubs that applies to and thankfully they all seem to think themselves above Sean Dyche.

PremierLeagueClass wrote: ↑

Sat May 29, 2021 8:53 am

The board know he’s the vital cog in the machine. He won’t go unless the move represents a significant opportunity to progress his career. There’s probably only 9 or 10 clubs that applies to and thankfully they all seem to think themselves above Sean Dyche.

I think you’d be surprised at Dyches ‘stock’ in the premier league and beyond.

I think the FA will be very interested in his career. DL is a very serious about Dyche.

Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑

Sat May 29, 2021 8:42 am

If we need to cut costs with the pandemic and lack of sponsor (so far) etc.. then at over 5m per year Dyches wage is our biggest outgoing.

We can't trim the squad anymore.

No way Dyche will sign on significantly reduced terms and I very much doubt the new owners would expect him to.

Can’t imagine he’ll sign before seeing if the new owners will back him properly. I can understand that, given the historical support he has had.

The problem is: will the right calibre of player want to join with his future uncertain?

The twix bonus for staying up is proving to be the sticking point.

Depends who backs him the most

Who says Palace are after him, apart from some random website?

Spijed wrote: ↑

Sat May 29, 2021 9:31 am

Who says Palace are after him, apart from some random website?

Daily mail

Claret_tinted wrote: ↑

Sat May 29, 2021 9:02 am

I think you’d be surprised at Dyches ‘stock’ in the premier league and beyond.

I think the FA will be very interested in his career. DL is a very serious about Dyche.

The fact of the matter is, Dyche has had success playing a style of football that goes against the trend. Can that be done at a higher level? I’d like to think so. Will he be given the chance? I just don’t see it.

As for the England job, international management is secondary to club management these days. This would be a poor career move at this stage and I’d be surprised if he’d accept the job should he be offered it.

Claret_tinted wrote: ↑

Sat May 29, 2021 9:02 am

I think you’d be surprised at Dyches ‘stock’ in the premier league and beyond.

I think the FA will be very interested in his career. DL is a very serious about Dyche.

I agree. His stock is much higher than Eddie Howe’s, for instance. The only advantage that Dyche ever had was that the club were loyal to him regardless of relegation.

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑

Sat May 29, 2021 9:35 am

Daily mail

I think that's based on the Fotballinsider website.

PremierLeagueClass wrote: ↑

Sat May 29, 2021 9:37 am

The fact of the matter is, Dyche has had success playing a style of football that goes against the trend. Can that be done at a higher level? I’d like to think so. Will he be given the chance? I just don’t see it.

As for the England job, international management is secondary to club management these days. This would be a poor career move at this stage and I’d be surprised if he’d accept the job should he be offered it.

Dyche has said himself that we play a certain way to suit the players at our disposal. If Dyche was to move to a team with significantly more funds available to him, his style would change - it would have to.

Does'nt SD have an early holiday the minute the season has ended. I think he hinted at this in his post Sheff Utd interview

Odds like these have me a bit worried.

https://www.sportinglife.com/football/n ... job/192082

The bookies don't often get it wrong.

Of course they get it wrong - odds like these change all the time. It even refers to Frank Lampard being the former favourite in the article - so they’re guaranteed to have got it wrong, one way or another.

These odds simply reflect the recent articles.

DCWat wrote: ↑

Sat May 29, 2021 10:07 am

Of course they get it wrong - odds like these change all the time. It even refers to Frank Lampard being the former favourite in the article - so they’re guaranteed to have got it wrong, one way or another.

These odds simply reflect the recent articles.

I didn't say that they never get it wrong, I said that they don't often get it wrong. (Which is why I don't bet.)

Ultimately they probably don’t, but on this kind of market, the favourite often changes regularly.

DCWat wrote: ↑

Sat May 29, 2021 10:18 am

Ultimately they probably don’t, but on this kind of market, the favourite often changes regularly.

Yes, and the nearer the appointment gets, the more accurate the odds are likely to be.

I've said for years that I don't think Sean is going anywhere, and I still believe that. All I said in my post was that the odds worry me.

Gordaleman wrote: ↑

Sat May 29, 2021 10:05 am

Odds like these have me a bit worried.

https://www.sportinglife.com/football/n ... job/192082

The bookies don't often get it wrong.

Those odds in the article mean that the bookies think it's about equally likely that SD won't be the next Palace manager.

They've since drifted to over 2/1, which means they now think it's twice as likely that he won't be.

I wouldn’t read anything into odds of 4/5, hardly any money goes onto these markets and it would only take a few quid to swing it the other way again.

Gordaleman wrote: ↑

Sat May 29, 2021 10:05 am

Odds like these have me a bit worried.

https://www.sportinglife.com/football/n ... job/192082

The bookies don't often get it wrong.

The odds are determined by the money going on. Because of the relative lack of interest, markets like next permanent Palace manager are extremely volatile and it doesn’t take much for the book to shift. Dyche was 1/16 at one point to be palace manager before the De Boer appointment I think it was.

It just takes a couple of articles linking the manager then a few bets go on, the odds shorten and it snowballs.

Gordaleman wrote: ↑

Sat May 29, 2021 10:25 am

Yes, and the nearer the appointment gets, the more accurate the odds are likely to be.

I've said for years that I don't think Sean is going anywhere, and I still believe that. All I said in my post was that the odds worry me.

With what appears to be a lot of work to be done, you’d think Palace want someone in very quickly.

He is holding out for the England job after the Euros.

Gordaleman wrote: ↑

Sat May 29, 2021 10:05 am

Odds like these have me a bit worried.

https://www.sportinglife.com/football/n ... job/192082

The bookies don't often get it wrong.

Yes, yes they do.

DCWat wrote: ↑

Sat May 29, 2021 9:58 am

Dyche has said himself that we play a certain way to suit the players at our disposal. If Dyche was to move to a team with significantly more funds available to him, his style would change - it would have to.

That’s exactly the problem he has. He has built his success on a certain style. Why would anyone recruit him to play a different style? Who knows if he’s capable of doing so? In that respect you could argue he’s a victim of his own success. Like an actor becoming typecast.

From a Burnley perspective, it’s the dream scenario. We’ve been able to hold onto a superb manager and make him an integral part of the club. In the modern game that is almost unique and a huge advantage. When he eventually leaves it will be because A) the relationship with the owners breaks down, or B) he takes the England job in 10+ years.

As Gary Neville said after the Fulham game, he’s our Alex Ferguson.

DCWat wrote: ↑

Sat May 29, 2021 10:43 am

With what appears to be a lot of work to be done, you’d think Palace want someone in very quickly.

After being loyal through some difficult times, I’d be surprised to see Sean leave now for Palace. If he were being linked with a Spurs, etc, I’d feel differently but I don’t see Palace as a significant step forward.

They also have a massive rebuilding job to do, which could be an attraction, but also high risk. With 13 players OOC it’ll take a lot more than the muted £50m to rebuild the squad.

The other factor is his compensation. I think I read somewhere that is £7m or so, I’m which case I assume it’s payable upfront and that would take a decent amount of their transfer budget. A Southern-based free agent like Lampard or Howe would be the more obvious choice.

My main concern is whether we’ll be able to attract players with his contract situation in the air.

Tall Paul wrote: ↑

Sat May 29, 2021 10:29 am

Those odds in the article mean that the bookies think it's about equally likely that SD won't be the next Palace manager.

They've since drifted to over 2/1, which means they now think it's twice as likely that he won't be.

I'm sure that you understand betting odds better than I, as I don't bet, but as I've said repeatedly, I don't think Sean is going anywhere. However, I do believe that it's in his interests to play hardball with the new owners, as he's more likely to get the backing he needs.

PremierLeagueClass wrote: ↑

Sat May 29, 2021 10:34 am

The odds are determined by the money going on. Because of the relative lack of interest, markets like next permanent Palace manager are extremely volatile and it doesn’t take much for the book to shift. Dyche was 1/16 at one point to be palace manager before the De Boer appointment I think it was.

It just takes a couple of articles linking the manager then a few bets go on, the odds shorten and it snowballs.

As I've been saying for several years, I don't think Sean is going anywhere. All I said was that the odds even have me worried.

Personally, I think Sean is playing hard to get, so that Alan Pace and co, are more likely to give him what he wants.

Saw an interview with Dion Dublin last week and he said to look out for a very special guest appearance on Homes under the Hammer from a house buyer he knows very well.

Not saying it definitely is Dyche but in light of the current rumours it does sound a little ominous

Holiday time for Mr D and family.

Then a sit down with chairman..."This is how I would like to steer the goof ship Burnley, on the field and a bit off it".

Chairman will respond...."That fits nicely with our off field expansion and income projections. We love you Sean".

Money not the key driver.


More the size of the bronze statue!

Devils_Advocate wrote: ↑

Sat May 29, 2021 11:47 am

Saw an interview with Dion Dublin last week and he said to look out for a very special guest appearance on Homes under the Hammer from a house buyer he knows very well.

Not saying it definitely is Dyche but in light of the current rumours it does sound a little ominous

Big mate of Matt Dawson according to what was said on QofS last night.

I don’t believe there is a delay

Whether it’s a rumour or there is genuine interest from Palace its a perfect opportunity for Dyche to sit back and see what develops. Wouldn’t we all do the same.

Gordaleman wrote: ↑

Sat May 29, 2021 10:05 am

Odds like these have me a bit worried.

https://www.sportinglife.com/football/n ... job/192082

The bookies don't often get it wrong.

Odds have drifted. Eddie Howe is the favourite now.

ClaretTony wrote: ↑

Sat May 29, 2021 12:46 pm

I don’t believe there is a delay

As in, he doesn’t plan to sign one?? ... or it’s been signed??

dermotdermot wrote: ↑

Sun May 30, 2021 8:09 pm

Odds have drifted. Eddie Howe is the favourite now.

That's good. I still think Sean wants to build a dynasty here.

He's a big admirer of the length of time Fergie and Wenger spent at their clubs, and I think he wants to do the same here.

NewClaret wrote: ↑

Sun May 30, 2021 8:18 pm

As in, he doesn’t plan to sign one?? ... or it’s been signed??

As in there is no delay. Why would anyone have been expecting anything? He’s said more than once that he’d get to the end of the season, have a holiday with family and then discuss his contract after that.

ClaretTony wrote: ↑

Sun May 30, 2021 8:20 pm

As in there is no delay. Why would anyone have been expecting anything? He’s said more than once that he’d get to the end of the season, have a holiday with family and then discuss his contract after that.

Ah okay, understood. Hopefully he’s on holiday ignoring Palace’s advances then.

dermotdermot wrote: ↑

Sun May 30, 2021 8:09 pm

Odds have drifted. Eddie Howe is the favourite now.

That would make sense now EH has knocked back the Celtic job, and from Palace's perspective he should be an easier catch than Sean Dyche, and also given he's currently a free agent a damned sight cheaper for them to boot. Both reasons which make him a more appealing prospect than wrangling with Burnley over compo, and then convincing Sean Dyche that going to Palace is progress from his point of view.

It would be one of football's typical ironies if Eddie Howe who gets castigated on this board was to be the reason why we managed to keep hold of Sean Dyche.

What will be will be, Ill remain a fan regardless of the outcome