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Norwich inspired by Burnley

Post by claretburns » Mon May 31, 2021 1:07 pm

A nice article on BBC from Stuart Webber, the Sporting Director of Norwich, explaining they don't have a lot of funds to work with and teams without a wealthy owner take inspiration from the work done at Burnley and staying in the Premier League so long.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/57252066

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Re: Norwich inspired by Burnley

Post by ClaretAndJew » Mon May 31, 2021 1:09 pm

Interesting to see they may generate 90 million on just 3 player sales. That's a lot.

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Re: Norwich inspired by Burnley

Post by NewClaret » Mon May 31, 2021 1:18 pm

I think we should help them out by buying one of Buendia or Cantwell actually. That would be very supportive of us :D
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Re: Norwich inspired by Burnley

Post by Chester Perry » Mon May 31, 2021 1:25 pm

Norwich's advantage is that their Academy and stadium hospitality development is a fair few years ahead of us, we have started from a much lower base but the roadmap has continued to move the club forward, it is incremental but it has and continues to happen

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Re: Norwich inspired by Burnley

Post by Silkyskills1 » Mon May 31, 2021 1:44 pm

When you take into account some of the players available to them it's little wonder they won their division so comfortably.

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Re: Norwich inspired by Burnley

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Mon May 31, 2021 1:57 pm

Yet our old chairmen still gets slaughtered on here.

Did a great job with us.
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Re: Norwich inspired by Burnley

Post by NewClaret » Mon May 31, 2021 4:02 pm

Chester Perry wrote:
Mon May 31, 2021 1:25 pm
Norwich's advantage is that their Academy and stadium hospitality development is a fair few years ahead of us, we have started from a much lower base but the roadmap has continued to move the club forward, it is incremental but it has and continues to happen
Academy - Do you mean in terms of the players it’s identified/brought through? Or in some other ways?

Hospitality - in what ways are they ahead? Revenue generation or do you mean in terms of quality? They have got Delia as head chef to be fair...

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Re: Norwich inspired by Burnley

Post by ClaretTony » Mon May 31, 2021 4:03 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Mon May 31, 2021 4:02 pm
They have got Delia as head chef to be fair...
Not when she's been in the cooking sherry
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Re: Norwich inspired by Burnley

Post by tiger76 » Mon May 31, 2021 4:35 pm

Hopefully Norwich will show that you don't have to spend bucket loads to compete at this level, and if a few other clubs can take note of what we've achieved in a substantial manner then all the better for football.

That said if it comes down to us or Norwich staying up then there can only be one winner, and even if the Canaries do spread their wings slightly further than their last attempt, I struggle to see how they can survive without significant incomings, they were totally out of their depth last time and also incredibly naïve, now it's possible that Farke has learned some valuable lessons from that sobering experience and he'll be more pragmatic this time, but it's such a vast gulf between the lower half of the PL and the high end of the Champ. as shown by how easily both Norwich and Watford have sailed back to the promised land at the first attempt, while Fulham & West Brom have slumped miserably in the opposite direction with a whimper.

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Re: Norwich inspired by Burnley

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Mon May 31, 2021 4:41 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Mon May 31, 2021 4:02 pm
Academy - Do you mean in terms of the players it’s identified/brought through? Or in some other ways?

Hospitality - in what ways are they ahead? Revenue generation or do you mean in terms of quality? They have got Delia as head chef to be fair...
Norwich commercial revenue for the season they were in the PL £21 million.
Burnley for the same season - £16 million.

That's despite us being in the PL for a number of years by then
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Re: Norwich inspired by Burnley

Post by MACCA » Mon May 31, 2021 5:32 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Mon May 31, 2021 1:57 pm
Yet our old chairmen still gets slaughtered on here.

Did a great job with us.
Absolutely, just like we sang down at Charlton and in Athens, there's only one Barry Kilby!

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Re: Norwich inspired by Burnley

Post by NewClaret » Mon May 31, 2021 7:05 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Mon May 31, 2021 4:41 pm
Norwich commercial revenue for the season they were in the PL £21 million.
Burnley for the same season - £16 million.

That's despite us being in the PL for a number of years by then
Fair enough. Thanks. Maybe we have some things to learn from them as well then.

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Re: Norwich inspired by Burnley

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Mon May 31, 2021 7:32 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Mon May 31, 2021 7:05 pm
Fair enough. Thanks. Maybe we have some things to learn from them as well then.
Norwich have an advantage that there's no other club their size for fecking miles though.

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Re: Norwich inspired by Burnley

Post by NewClaret » Mon May 31, 2021 7:35 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Mon May 31, 2021 7:32 pm
Norwich have an advantage that there's no other club their size for fecking miles though.
True. I think it’s about 350 miles to the nearest civilisation from Norwich :lol:
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Re: Norwich inspired by Burnley

Post by Spijed » Mon May 31, 2021 7:42 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Mon May 31, 2021 7:35 pm
True. I think it’s about 350 miles to the nearest civilisation from Norwich :lol:
Ipswich being their one and only rival.
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Re: Norwich inspired by Burnley

Post by ClaretTony » Mon May 31, 2021 8:15 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Mon May 31, 2021 7:35 pm
True. I think it’s about 350 miles to the nearest civilisation from Norwich :lol:
I recall going there one season (I think it was 2001/02) and was talking to some of their fans in a pub. They told me that their closest away game that season was Millwall.

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Re: Norwich inspired by Burnley

Post by DCWat » Mon May 31, 2021 8:25 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Mon May 31, 2021 8:15 pm
I recall going there one season (I think it was 2001/02) and was talking to some of their fans in a pub. They told me that their closest away game that season was Millwall.
Long journey when you’re stuck behind a tractor for the first thirty miles!!

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Re: Norwich inspired by Burnley

Post by Claret Toni » Mon May 31, 2021 8:29 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Mon May 31, 2021 4:41 pm


Norwich commercial revenue for the season they were in the PL £21 million.
Burnley for the same season - £16 million.

That's despite us being in the PL for a number of years by then
I dread to think what's the cost of a TWIX at Carrow Road.

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Re: Norwich inspired by Burnley

Post by NewClaret » Mon May 31, 2021 8:51 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Mon May 31, 2021 8:15 pm
I recall going there one season (I think it was 2001/02) and was talking to some of their fans in a pub. They told me that their closest away game that season was Millwall.
I went away one season on the bus. I remember getting off the motorway and then taking about another six hours! I have never held a wee so long in my life!! Felt like an eternity.

I like Norwich - the place, the club, the people. Never so keen repeating that journey!

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Re: Norwich inspired by Burnley

Post by ClaretTony » Mon May 31, 2021 9:05 pm

DCWat wrote:
Mon May 31, 2021 8:25 pm
Long journey when you’re stuck behind a tractor for the first thirty miles!!
We overtook a tractor on one trip there and a camera flashed. Our driver was the only Burnley fan who came home with three points.
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Re: Norwich inspired by Burnley

Post by Pearcey » Mon May 31, 2021 9:13 pm

As someone who lives in Norwich and has quite a few canary mates and in-laws, I’ll be showing them this article. They’re a well run club these days and I hope to be in the away end this season.

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Re: Norwich inspired by Burnley

Post by Local cricketer » Mon May 31, 2021 10:21 pm

No way that Norwich finish above us next season

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Re: Norwich inspired by Burnley

Post by Bin Ont Turf » Mon May 31, 2021 11:16 pm

Even though we don't have the exact science for it, 'every' club should look at Burnley and think, yes, that's how you should do it.

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Re: Norwich inspired by Burnley

Post by Hipper » Tue Jun 01, 2021 8:04 am

tiger76 wrote:
Mon May 31, 2021 4:35 pm
Hopefully Norwich will show that you don't have to spend bucket loads to compete at this level, and if a few other clubs can take note of what we've achieved in a substantial manner then all the better for football.

That said if it comes down to us or Norwich staying up then there can only be one winner, and even if the Canaries do spread their wings slightly further than their last attempt, I struggle to see how they can survive without significant incomings, they were totally out of their depth last time and also incredibly naïve, now it's possible that Farke has learned some valuable lessons from that sobering experience and he'll be more pragmatic this time, but it's such a vast gulf between the lower half of the PL and the high end of the Champ. as shown by how easily both Norwich and Watford have sailed back to the promised land at the first attempt, while Fulham & West Brom have slumped miserably in the opposite direction with a whimper.
Someone pointed out earlier in the year that the goal stats on Norwich's promotion this year are defensively better then last time:

2019 F93 A57 GD36
2021 F75 A36 GD39

They gave away a loot of sloppy goals last time but perhaps they are defensively wiser now.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/championship/table

https://www.skysports.com/championship-table/2018

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