ARTICLE: Contrasting fortunes for two former strikers

This Forum is the main messageboard to discuss all things Claret and Blue and beyond
Post Reply
ClaretTony
Posts: 67868
Joined: Thu Dec 24, 2015 3:07 pm
Been Liked: 32527 times
Has Liked: 5276 times
Location: Burnley
Contact:

ARTICLE: Contrasting fortunes for two former strikers

Post by ClaretTony » Thu Jun 03, 2021 4:26 pm

A move for Charlie Austin and a need to move for Sam Vokes

See link
https://www.uptheclarets.com/contrastin ... r-strikers

Burnleyareback2
Posts: 2679
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 10:07 pm
Been Liked: 781 times
Has Liked: 1435 times
Location: Mostly Europe

Re: ARTICLE: Contrasting fortunes for two former strikers

Post by Burnleyareback2 » Thu Jun 03, 2021 10:27 pm

Amazed Vokes didn’t do well at Stoke. I really thought he had at least another season or more with us.

Mind you Ward didn’t appear to have a good move either.

Perhaps a couple of examples of Dyche bringing out the best in players.

Good like to Austin as well, certainly one of the best strikers we have had.

ClaretTony
Posts: 67868
Joined: Thu Dec 24, 2015 3:07 pm
Been Liked: 32527 times
Has Liked: 5276 times
Location: Burnley
Contact:

Re: ARTICLE: Contrasting fortunes for two former strikers

Post by ClaretTony » Thu Jun 03, 2021 10:36 pm

Burnleyareback2 wrote:
Thu Jun 03, 2021 10:27 pm
Amazed Vokes didn’t do well at Stoke. I really thought he had at least another season or more with us.

Mind you Ward didn’t appear to have a good move either.

Perhaps a couple of examples of Dyche bringing out the best in players.

Good like to Austin as well, certainly one of the best strikers we have had.
Staggering that Sam has completed a season without scoring a goal but only five starts plus a number of sub appearances.

I’m certain Dyche brought out the best in him.
This user liked this post: Burnleyareback2

Jakubclaret
Posts: 9471
Joined: Sun Oct 16, 2016 10:47 pm
Been Liked: 1183 times
Has Liked: 778 times

Re: ARTICLE: Contrasting fortunes for two former strikers

Post by Jakubclaret » Thu Jun 03, 2021 10:40 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Thu Jun 03, 2021 10:36 pm
Staggering that Sam has completed a season without scoring a goal but only five starts plus a number of sub appearances.

I’m certain Dyche brought out the best in him.
I think ings might disagree.

ClaretTony
Posts: 67868
Joined: Thu Dec 24, 2015 3:07 pm
Been Liked: 32527 times
Has Liked: 5276 times
Location: Burnley
Contact:

Re: ARTICLE: Contrasting fortunes for two former strikers

Post by ClaretTony » Thu Jun 03, 2021 10:46 pm

Jakubclaret wrote:
Thu Jun 03, 2021 10:40 pm
I think ings might disagree.
It just worked between them that season right from the off.
This user liked this post: Jakubclaret

HB Claret
Posts: 641
Joined: Fri Jan 22, 2016 12:09 am
Been Liked: 172 times
Has Liked: 81 times

Re: ARTICLE: Contrasting fortunes for two former strikers

Post by HB Claret » Fri Jun 04, 2021 7:12 am

I think Dyche worked miracles with Sam Vokes - improved his fitness and strength, instilled confidence and belief in a player where it was seriously lacking. One of Sean’s great strengths is man management and he has got the best out of many average players during his time here.
This user liked this post: Claret_tinted

Claret_tinted
Posts: 233
Joined: Mon Apr 12, 2021 10:19 am
Been Liked: 43 times
Has Liked: 69 times

Re: ARTICLE: Contrasting fortunes for two former strikers

Post by Claret_tinted » Fri Jun 04, 2021 7:52 am

I think there’s a few in the back room that are excellent man managers. It doesn’t always have to be Dyche...

TheFamilyCat
Posts: 10913
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 8:56 pm
Been Liked: 5559 times
Has Liked: 208 times

Re: ķARTICLE: Contrasting fortunes for two former strikers

Post by TheFamilyCat » Fri Jun 04, 2021 8:46 am

Vokes and Burnley was just a good fit. His career before joining was nothing to write home about but he was excellent for us.

Although he had a better record than Vokes before joining us, I get a similar feeling about Chris Wood and that he'd struggle to repeat what he does for us elsewhere.

JohnDearyMe
Posts: 2743
Joined: Fri Jan 29, 2016 2:31 pm
Been Liked: 667 times
Has Liked: 2053 times

Re: ARTICLE: Contrasting fortunes for two former strikers

Post by JohnDearyMe » Fri Jun 04, 2021 11:31 am

Didn't Vokes miss a couple of penalties for Stoke? Always seemed reliable on that front here

ClaretTony
Posts: 67868
Joined: Thu Dec 24, 2015 3:07 pm
Been Liked: 32527 times
Has Liked: 5276 times
Location: Burnley
Contact:

Re: ARTICLE: Contrasting fortunes for two former strikers

Post by ClaretTony » Fri Jun 04, 2021 11:34 am

JohnDearyMe wrote:
Fri Jun 04, 2021 11:31 am
Didn't Vokes miss a couple of penalties for Stoke? Always seemed reliable on that front here
I always felt more comfortable with Vokes taking pens ahead of Ings or Gray.
This user liked this post: JohnDearyMe

ClaretTony
Posts: 67868
Joined: Thu Dec 24, 2015 3:07 pm
Been Liked: 32527 times
Has Liked: 5276 times
Location: Burnley
Contact:

Re: ARTICLE: Contrasting fortunes for two former strikers

Post by ClaretTony » Fri Jun 04, 2021 11:39 am

HB Claret wrote:
Fri Jun 04, 2021 7:12 am
I think Dyche worked miracles with Sam Vokes - improved his fitness and strength, instilled confidence and belief in a player where it was seriously lacking. One of Sean’s great strengths is man management and he has got the best out of many average players during his time here.
Two days before the season started in 2013 we sold Charlie Austin. Only Sam & Danny Ings left and neither of them had suggested they were the answer. I had some confidence in Ings but not Vokes to be hones but Sean Dyche said it was an opportunity for someone else, got the absolute best out of him, and he went on to do an excellent job for us.

We couldn’t find a direct replacement for him of course because there’s only one Sam Vokes.

ksrclaret
Posts: 6915
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 10:56 am
Been Liked: 2567 times
Has Liked: 767 times

Re: ARTICLE: Contrasting fortunes for two former strikers

Post by ksrclaret » Fri Jun 04, 2021 11:50 am

I couldn't believe the turnaround in Sam Vokes during the 2013/14 season. A player who looked cumbersome, awkward, and heavy became a monster in the air (in both boxes) and an incredibly sharp link-man and finisher. He and Ings will go down as my favourite ever partnership.

For one reason or another I never really took to Austin. I remember not being too bothered when he was sold as it was obvious we needed the money and I was sure we'd replace him with someone and just about retain our place in the league. Wrong on both counts.

Post Reply