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Mayweather

Post by bobinho » Sat Jun 05, 2021 5:59 pm

Anyone been sucked in by this media hyped money making exercise and been sad enough to buy it?

Long time lover of the noble art, but this sort of thing ruins it for me.

He’s a multi, multi millionaire and he still needs more?

One of the greatest (if not THE greatest) fighters of all time is wrapped up in this sort of thing.... be signing up for the masked dancer next. It’s all just a bit sad.... :roll:

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Re: Mayweather

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Sat Jun 05, 2021 6:02 pm

He's just earning a living.
Tbh, I hope he quickly smashes Logan Paul, then throws a hat at him and mocks that crap tattoo.

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Re: Mayweather

Post by TsarBomba » Sat Jun 05, 2021 6:09 pm

bobinho wrote:
Sat Jun 05, 2021 5:59 pm
Anyone been sucked in by this media hyped money making exercise and been sad enough to buy it?

Long time lover of the noble art, but this sort of thing ruins it for me.

He’s a multi, multi millionaire and he still needs more?

One of the greatest (if not THE greatest) fighters of all time is wrapped up in this sort of thing.... be signing up for the masked dancer next. It’s all just a bit sad.... :roll:
Don’t disagree, but, this fight will probably earn him more money and garner more media attention than any of his fights previously.

As a serious boxer, Mayweather is at the end, but as an ‘entertainer’, this could be the start.

As GIADJ says, it’s all about the money, and if there is sufficient interest, and clearly there is, then why not?

I get that serious boxing fans will roll their eyes at stunts like this, but ultimately this isn’t a ‘serious’ fight. It’s a bit of fun.

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Re: Mayweather

Post by JohnMac » Sat Jun 05, 2021 6:41 pm

Logan Paul and all these other YouTube 'sensations' are making millions but leaving generations of kids that are too loud, too rude and generally talk utter tripe.

If Mayweather gets sucked into allowing Logan Paul to actually hit him and go beyond 2 rounds it will be an utter farce.

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Re: Mayweather

Post by claretburns » Sat Jun 05, 2021 6:48 pm

Mayweather knows he will win and won't get hurt and knows there are plenty of idiots out there willing to pay to watch this, so you can't blame him for basically earning some free money.

What is sad is the media coverage behind the fight trying to stoke it up like something serious and professional when it is just a circus.

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Re: Mayweather

Post by KRBFC » Sat Jun 05, 2021 7:30 pm

TsarBomba wrote:
Sat Jun 05, 2021 6:09 pm

As a serious boxer, Mayweather is at the end, but as an ‘entertainer’, this could be the start.

Exactly what he said, he said he retired from professional boxing not retired from making money.

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Re: Mayweather

Post by KRBFC » Sat Jun 05, 2021 7:32 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Sat Jun 05, 2021 6:02 pm
He's just earning a living.
Tbh, I hope he quickly smashes Logan Paul, then throws a hat at him and mocks that crap tattoo.
The hat thing was nothing to do with Logan Paul, it was his younger brother Jake.

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Re: Mayweather

Post by fanzone » Sat Jun 05, 2021 7:54 pm

Absolutely ridiculous that it's on Monday morning.

There will be loads of kids (YouTube mad) that want to watch this.

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Re: Mayweather

Post by Burnley1989 » Sat Jun 05, 2021 8:23 pm

If somebody offers you that level of money to compete against someone with 0.1% of your skills? He’s be daft to turn it down

I think it’s hilarious, in no way will I watch it, but I’ll definitely google the Knock out on Monday

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Re: Mayweather

Post by Zlatan » Sat Jun 05, 2021 8:55 pm

Seriously though, who cares

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Re: Mayweather

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Sat Jun 05, 2021 9:18 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Sat Jun 05, 2021 7:32 pm
The hat thing was nothing to do with Logan Paul, it was his younger brother Jake.
He can throw the hat at Jake then.
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Re: Mayweather

Post by KRBFC » Sat Jun 05, 2021 9:33 pm

fanzone wrote:
Sat Jun 05, 2021 7:54 pm
Absolutely ridiculous that it's on Monday morning.

There will be loads of kids (YouTube mad) that want to watch this.
Isit not on in a few hours? Sunday not Monday

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Re: Mayweather

Post by fanzone » Sat Jun 05, 2021 9:52 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Sat Jun 05, 2021 9:33 pm
Isit not on in a few hours? Sunday not Monday
Nup

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Re: Mayweather

Post by tim_noone » Sat Jun 05, 2021 10:03 pm

I'm from the Ali ..Era and seen some Great Boxers over the years to many to mention up to the Present day... I've never seen Mayweather in the Ring or Maybe once Against Manny P. He doesn't Register on my list....alongside sugar Ray Leonard or Roberto Duran. Etc etc

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Post by Bordeauxclaret » Sat Jun 05, 2021 11:04 pm

Is there a reason no bookies are taking a draw?

Or is that one of the rules of this ‘fight’?

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Re: Mayweather

Post by fanzone » Sat Jun 05, 2021 11:13 pm

Bordeauxclaret wrote:
Sat Jun 05, 2021 11:04 pm
Is there a reason no bookies are taking a draw?

Or is that one of the rules of this ‘fight’?

Can only win by k/o I believe.
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Re: Mayweather

Post by CFS » Sun Jun 06, 2021 12:10 am

tim_noone wrote:
Sat Jun 05, 2021 10:03 pm
I'm from the Ali ..Era and seen some Great Boxers over the years to many to mention up to the Present day... I've never seen Mayweather in the Ring or Maybe once Against Manny P. He doesn't Register on my list....alongside sugar Ray Leonard or Roberto Duran. Etc etc
He's 50-0 what list you on about he's up there with the best.
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Re: Mayweather

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Sun Jun 06, 2021 12:18 am

I see there's a good few lbs difference in weight between them

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Re: Mayweather

Post by bobinho » Sun Jun 06, 2021 9:08 am

tim_noone wrote:
Sat Jun 05, 2021 10:03 pm
I'm from the Ali ..Era and seen some Great Boxers over the years to many to mention up to the Present day... I've never seen Mayweather in the Ring or Maybe once Against Manny P. He doesn't Register on my list....alongside sugar Ray Leonard or Roberto Duran. Etc etc
That’s like saying “I never saw Brazil in the 1970 World Cup but they can’t be as good as England in 1990!”. :lol:

There have been some great eras in boxing. Leonard and Duran were superb tho, as were Hagler and Hearns. We did ok on this side of the pond too with Benn, Eubank, Collins and the awesome Joe Calzaghe.

This mayweather/you tube idiot thing just takes away from the sport for me. It’s like American wrestling has influenced absolutely everything, and taken something away instead of adding to it.

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Re: Mayweather

Post by Steve1956 » Sun Jun 06, 2021 9:50 am

bobinho wrote:
Sat Jun 05, 2021 5:59 pm
Anyone been sucked in by this media hyped money making exercise and been sad enough to buy it?

Long time lover of the noble art, but this sort of thing ruins it for me.

He’s a multi, multi millionaire and he still needs more?

One of the greatest (if not THE greatest) fighters of all time is wrapped up in this sort of thing.... be signing up for the masked dancer next. It’s all just a bit sad.... :roll:
He's bored Bobinho,he just wants to come back and kick another generations arse.
And probably the greatest boxer to ever walk the planet..I'm easy with his decision ;)

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Re: Mayweather

Post by Steve1956 » Sun Jun 06, 2021 9:54 am

tim_noone wrote:
Sat Jun 05, 2021 10:03 pm
I'm from the Ali ..Era and seen some Great Boxers over the years to many to mention up to the Present day... I've never seen Mayweather in the Ring or Maybe once Against Manny P. He doesn't Register on my list....alongside sugar Ray Leonard or Roberto Duran. Etc etc
How's the knee fella?...are you going to be fit for all that bobbing up and down on our knee's over the coming month,that Southgate is a reet tw@t inhe? :D

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Re: Mayweather

Post by tim_noone » Sun Jun 06, 2021 4:44 pm

Steve1956 wrote:
Sun Jun 06, 2021 9:54 am
How's the knee fella?...are you going to be fit for all that bobbing up and down on our knee's over the coming month,that Southgate is a reet tw@t inhe? :D
Much...Much...better I must of over done it.Was very painful at the time!! As a Decorator I was always bobbing up n down :D

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Re: Mayweather

Post by Milltown1882 » Sun Jun 06, 2021 4:50 pm

This and the rest of the YouTuber boxing is making a mockery of the sport when you get so many fighters that you will make next to nothing for actual fights unless they’re getting up to title level. Farcical but they’ll make money.

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Re: Mayweather

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Sun Jun 06, 2021 6:38 pm

Milltown1882 wrote:
Sun Jun 06, 2021 4:50 pm
This and the rest of the YouTuber boxing is making a mockery of the sport when you get so many fighters that you will make next to nothing for actual fights unless they’re getting up to title level. Farcical but they’ll make money.
The you tubers are more relatable though to a certain age range.
Mayweather isn't.

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Re: Mayweather

Post by tarkys_ears » Sun Jun 06, 2021 7:03 pm

What's the betting during this staged fiasco that Mayweather gets his first loss and it goes 3 fights?

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Re: Mayweather

Post by IanMcL » Sun Jun 06, 2021 7:06 pm

tarkys_ears wrote:
Sun Jun 06, 2021 7:03 pm
What's the betting during this staged fiasco that Mayweather gets his first loss and it goes 3 fights?
Mayweather doesn't do 'loss'.
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Re: Mayweather

Post by Milltown1882 » Sun Jun 06, 2021 7:07 pm

tarkys_ears wrote:
Sun Jun 06, 2021 7:03 pm
What's the betting during this staged fiasco that Mayweather gets his first loss and it goes 3 fights?
No chance

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Re: Mayweather

Post by KRBFC » Sun Jun 06, 2021 7:07 pm

Milltown1882 wrote:
Sun Jun 06, 2021 4:50 pm
This and the rest of the YouTuber boxing is making a mockery of the sport when you get so many fighters that you will make next to nothing for actual fights unless they’re getting up to title level. Farcical but they’ll make money.
Some would say the Youtube boxing are bringing more eyes to the sport and allowing the fighters lower down to get paid more. More eyes > more money, more money > more pay.

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Re: Mayweather

Post by bobinho » Sun Jun 06, 2021 8:15 pm

tarkys_ears wrote:
Sun Jun 06, 2021 7:03 pm
What's the betting during this staged fiasco that Mayweather gets his first loss and it goes 3 fights?
This `thing` is as scripted and staged as a wrestling `match`. Absolutely NO way would there be an outcome that sees a Mayweather loss. He's the money.

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Re: Mayweather

Post by willsclarets » Sun Jun 06, 2021 8:26 pm

It's pretty hard to script a boxing match. And logan isn't good enough a boxer to attempt it. He'll be trying to knock out mayweather for sure, but he stands little to no chance of doing so The only "staging" I guess is that I'd be suprised if mayweather knocks him out too early, which he easily could do without breaking a sweat in round 1. I suspect he'll let it run for 4 or 5 rounds so the youtubers don't feel more robbed than they actually are.

I'm terms of it making a mockery of the sport, I disagree. I don't think canelo vs saunders for instance is in anyway undermined as a sporting spectacle just because mayweather is fighting a youtuber. It's a sideshow. I mean it's daft and I won't watch it, but boxing is in a much better place now than it was a decade ago. In fact you wouldn't get this sort of spin off unless boxing was entering the consciousness of popular culture more readily. And if this gets a few more people watching an actual boxing match then good for boxing. Hopefully next they'll watch Crawford/Spence or alike snd enjoy the elite level.
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Re: Mayweather

Post by fanzone » Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:40 am

Lasted the full 8 rounds - no result

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Re: Mayweather

Post by Chester Perry » Fri Jun 11, 2021 9:07 pm

some crazy money earned on this exhibition according to the huddle up newsletter



Mayweather vs. Paul Generates 1 Million PPV Buys
Floyd Mayweather and Logan Paul's exhibition match last weekend generated over 1 million PPV buys, but how much did each of the fighters make personally?
Joseph Pompliano
Jun 11

When Floyd Mayweather ended his two-year retirement to step into the ring with MMA superstar Conor McGregor four years ago, the results exceeded all expectations:

The fight generated 4.3 million domestic pay-per-view buys (2nd largest all-time) and more than $600 million in total revenue.

Floyd Mayweather's guaranteed paycheck was $100 million, but he ended up taking home a reported $280 million after his PPV cut, sponsorships, and more.

Conor McGregor’s guaranteed paycheck was $30 million, but he ended up taking home a reported $130 million after his PPV cut, sponsorships, and more.

Now, at 44-years-old with a grandson born in January, Floyd Mayweather decided to end his retirement for a second time, stepping into the ring for an eight-round exhibition with YouTube celebrity Logan Paul last Sunday.

Floyd Mayweather vs. Logan Paul Fight Results | PEOPLE.com
(Credit: Getty Images)
Despite squaring off on Sunday night just before 10 pm ET, early numbers from multiple sources indicate that the Floyd Mayweather-Logan Paul exhibition generated over 1 million buys on pay-per-view. At a purchase price of $49.99 via Showtime and Fanmio, that’s roughly $50 million in revenue.

Reminder: In addition to guaranteed payments, Floyd Mayweather’s contract included 50% of PPV sales, while Logan Paul was due to see 10% of PPV sales.

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Floyd Mayweather Deal:
• $10 million guaranteed
• 50% of PPV sales

Logan Paul Deal:
• $250K guaranteed
• 10% of PPV sales

Floyd is on pace to clear over $500M total across his last three exhibition fights versus Logan Paul, Conor McGregor, and Tenshin Nasukawa.
June 7th 2021

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Although I would love to make the math easy and tack on an additional $25 million (50% of PPV sales) to Mayweather’s $10 million guaranteed and call it a $35 million day, it doesn’t work that way.

Pay-per-view distributors end up taking a large chunk of that revenue, sometimes up to 50% or more. Networks get 100% of streaming purchases directly through their website, but if it’s through an app like Roku or Apple TV, they’ll take home 70% to 90%. It all depends on the specific contract.

Regardless, both fighters ended up making a lot of money. Floyd Mayweather claims he made $30 million off short sponsorships alone, and Logan Paul was promoting various products like Reign, Atari, and Blockfolio all week to his 50 million-plus followers on social media.

“They say, ‘It’s not all about the money.’ Well, your kids can’t eat legacy,” Mayweather said post-fight. “The patches on my trunks [earned me] $30 million alone.

“So who’s really the smartest one in the sport of boxing? When it comes to legalized bank robbing, I’m the best.”

But still, almost a full week after the fight has ended, more questions remain. Was this event considered a success? Is celebrity boxing here to stay? Is Floyd Mayweather actually going to retire for good?

Here’s how I think about it: Anytime you have 1 million pay-per-view buys, it’s a success. Only about 25 boxing matches in history have seen that many PPV purchases, and when you consider it was an exhibition with no judges and no declared winner, it makes it all the more impressive.

But looking at it from a different perspective, I have to imagine Showtime was expecting more. Floyd Mayweather could fight just about anyone and pull in close to 1 million purchases. Hate him or love him; that’s the truth. He’s been the biggest name in boxing for two decades.

Even more interesting, at 1 million PPV buys and $50M in revenue, this fight wasn’t nearly as successful as other recent “celebrity” boxing matches.

Mike Tyson vs. Roy Jones Jr. had 1.6 million PPV buys and over $80 million in revenue.

Jake Paul vs. Ben Askren had 1.5 million PPV buys and over $75 million in revenue.

To be transparent, UFC’s Dana White claims those numbers aren’t true. Maybe it’s jealously, or maybe he’s right, but I’m not in a position to confirm or deny. Those are the figures that Triller reported.

As for Floyd Mayweather & Logan Paul, none of this really matters. There was obviously training & promotion that went into it, but they stepped into the ring on a Sunday night, sparred for about 30 minutes in total, and walked away with eight-figure paychecks each.

That’s incredibly impressive and further signifies the value that years of hard work & consistency in building a brand can have on your future. The point being, people purchased the fight because of what these guys had done in the past, not to see a good boxing match.

The final pay-per-view numbers are still coming in, and with technical issues causing Showtime to issue a perceived significant amount of refunds, they actually might end up lower than expectations.

But to be clear, this was still a successful event, and whether people like it or not, it only further strengthens the case for more celebrity boxing matches in the future.

As for myself, I don’t have a problem with it. By repeatedly calling it a “legalized bank robbery,” Floyd was very clear this was not meant to be taken seriously. Both fighters got paid, and we all knew what to expect going in.

“Nobody has to watch. Nobody has to pay. Do whatever makes you feel good, and I’m gonna do what makes me feel good.” — Floyd Mayweather to The Athletic before the fight

As I said, we all knew what to expect.

I hope each of you has a great weekend. Talk to you on Monday.

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Re: Mayweather

Post by willsclarets » Sat Jun 12, 2021 7:40 am

$50 to watch that is just unbelievable.

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