KRBFC wrote: ↑

Wed Jun 30, 2021 6:02 pm

banking on a quick return after relegation is a pretty shaky plan, I think player signings are so important now, young players with resale who we can offload to raise funds in the future weather that is to raise funds for further transfers or to pay back debts after relegation. We need to be very careful we aren't frittering away precious millions.

With Tarkowski worth £0 next summer, if we were relegated who could we actually sell to try pay back debts and keep our head above water? Pope and Mcneil but that probably covers the debt.

Quick returns are becoming a more regular feature thanks to teams who go down being more prepared for the bounce (the key being they are all aligned internally) - and helped by parachutes. Hence the EFL's ever louder protests

Chester Perry wrote: ↑

Wed Jun 30, 2021 6:12 pm

Quick returns are becoming a more regular feature thanks to teams who go down being more prepared for the bounce (the key being they are all aligned internally) - and helped by parachutes. Hence the EFL's ever louder protests

Or there’s just a widening gulf in quality between the Championship and PL? I think it’s getting bigger and that is a risk to our strategy of it being our main market for player recruitment.

To KRBFC’s points, Wood has been linked with big moves away, as has Brownhill this summer. We’d have players in demand for sure, although I agree with the broader point that we now need to be replenishing the squad with younger players.

KRBFC wrote: ↑

Wed Jun 30, 2021 6:05 pm

I also forgot to mention, if relegated we still have to pay transfer fees which I think are now paid over the length of contract.

A lot of worrying going on here about “the debt” yet we have no idea how much we hold, the terms, the controls established in the case of relegation, net debt when considering our debtors/cash, or ALK’s plans/ability to pay it down/raise new capital in the event of or before any such relegation scenario. We’re all just ****ing in the wind, frankly.

That’s not to say I don’t share some of the concerns about our new model, just recognise that we don’t actually know enough about it; it’s all speculation. More information will come available in time, at which point debate becomes more relevant.

Until then, we have to hope AP and his team know what they’re doing, MG wouldn’t have sold unless convinced they did, and there’s some exciting plans afoot. I’m certainly not going to spend a summer worrying about the investments they’re making given we’ve been starved of any for so long. It’s time to enjoy it.

Exciting times, etc.

Unless he’s already signed and it’s due to be announced then I doubt it’ll be in the next week or so, he’s pictured in the airport ready to board a plane to a Spanish island . Also on a separate picture with the same lads on Roy Hodgson interestingly enough.

Hedontplayforyou wrote: ↑

Wed Jun 30, 2021 9:42 pm

Unless he’s already signed and it’s due to be announced then I doubt it’ll be in the next week or so, he’s pictured in the airport ready to board a plane to a Spanish island . Also on a separate picture with the same lads on Roy Hodgson interestingly enough.

Looks like arrivals at Palma to me - it is on the previous page

So now that CP have a manager and all current vacancies are filled... surely Dyche signs? If not, he’s waiting to see if he’s actually backed OR he doesn’t want to go any further at Burnley.

WiscoClaret wrote: ↑

Mon Jul 05, 2021 4:10 am

So now that CO have a manager and all current vacancies are filled... surely Dyche signs? If not, he’s waiting to see if he’s actually backed OR he doesn’t want to go any further at Burnley.

CO??
So you are saying that Sean Dyche hasn't signed a new deal because he was hoping that another Premier League club would offer him a job?

Targetman wrote: ↑

Mon Jul 05, 2021 9:24 am

CO??
So you are saying that Sean Dyche hasn't signed a new deal because he was hoping that another Premier League club would offer him a job?

Im guessing Wisco meant CP...i.e. Palace

Targetman wrote: ↑

Mon Jul 05, 2021 9:24 am

CO??
So you are saying that Sean Dyche hasn't signed a new deal because he was hoping that another Premier League club would offer him a job?

Think he meant CP.

I was never convinced he was a serious candidate for any of the vacancies, possibly because he rebuffed any approaches.

I think his new contract was agreed in principle shortly after keeping us up and it’s either a case of the legals being finalised for him & his team, or that he wants to see how much ALK will back him before signing (which you can hardly blame him for).

Hasn’t he got another 12 months left on his current contract? Why would he need to rush to sign another one?

Bigvince wrote: ↑

Mon Jul 05, 2021 9:39 am

Hasn’t he got another 12 months left on his current contract? Why would he need to rush to sign another one?

About 23 million reasons from what I've read

WiscoClaret wrote: ↑

Mon Jul 05, 2021 4:10 am

So now that CO have a manager and all current vacancies are filled... surely Dyche signs? If not, he’s waiting to see if he’s actually backed OR he doesn’t want to go any further at Burnley.

I saw pictures recently of him flying out to Spain so there could be a La Liga team interested in him who he might be speaking with

Devils_Advocate wrote: ↑

Mon Jul 05, 2021 10:00 am

I saw pictures recently of him flying out to Spain so there could be a La Liga team interested in him who he might be speaking with

It’s Barcelona not Burnley!

Devils_Advocate wrote: ↑

Mon Jul 05, 2021 10:00 am

I saw pictures recently of him flying out to Spain so there could be a La Liga team interested in him who he might be speaking with

You regularly criticise other people and then post something silly like that. Its no wonder other people on here dont have much time for you.

Believe the trip to Mallorca was for a lads holiday for his 50th hence Woy been on the same flight. I think Mike Garlick went to Ibiza

Local cricketer wrote: ↑

Mon Jul 05, 2021 11:08 am

Believe the trip to Mallorca was for a lads holiday for his 50th hence Woy been on the same flight. I think Mike Garlick went to Ibiza

Roy is a bit older than 50!

Targetman wrote: ↑

Mon Jul 05, 2021 11:06 am

You regularly criticise other people and then post something silly like that. Its no wonder other people on here dont have much time for you.

Lighten up a bit. This forum is full of ridiculous and silly comments but at least mine are obviously intended to be that way and are just a bit of fun.

Devils_Advocate wrote: ↑

Mon Jul 05, 2021 12:08 pm

Lighten up a bit. This forum is full of ridiculous and silly comments but at least mine are obviously intended to be that way and are just a bit of fun.

Stop having fun in your life DA and be miserable like everyone else.

Sorry, I meant Crystal Palace!

Bigvince wrote: ↑

Mon Jul 05, 2021 9:39 am

Hasn’t he got another 12 months left on his current contract? Why would he need to rush to sign another one?

Ask the reporter at the Daily Mail who wrote the article that has resulted in over 600 posts on this topic.

Local cricketer wrote: ↑

Mon Jul 05, 2021 11:08 am

Believe the trip to Mallorca was for a lads holiday for his 50th hence Woy been on the same flight. I think Mike Garlick went to Ibiza

He was in Jersey on his birthday

Local cricketer wrote: ↑

Mon Jul 05, 2021 11:08 am

Believe the trip to Mallorca was for a lads holiday for his 50th hence Woy been on the same flight. I think Mike Garlick went to Ibiza

Did Sean tell Mike his party was in Ibiza?!?

joey13 wrote: ↑

Tue Jul 06, 2021 7:58 am

He was in Jersey on his birthday

He went on a lads holiday after jersey

Just a personal thing, but if I sign a new contract I am adamant that it is strictly betwixt me and my employer.

Just a personal thing, but if I sign a new contract, I am adamant that it is strictly betwixt me and my employer.

jackmiggins wrote: ↑

Tue Jul 06, 2021 10:19 am

Just a personal thing, but if I sign a new contract, I am adamant that it is strictly betwixt me and my employer.

Did you enjoy your holiday Mr Dyche?

kentonclaret wrote: ↑

Tue Jul 06, 2021 7:48 am

Ask the reporter at the Daily Mail who wrote the article that has resulted in over 600 posts on this topic.

I would do, but I’m unable to contact him. Could you contact him for me?

Local cricketer wrote: ↑

Tue Jul 06, 2021 9:59 am

He went on a lads holiday after jersey

Brownie points first then

Devils_Advocate wrote: ↑

Mon Jul 05, 2021 12:08 pm

Lighten up a bit. This forum is full of ridiculous and silly comments but at least mine are obviously intended to be that way and are just a bit of fun.

Yes most of them come from you!

Targetman wrote: ↑

Tue Jul 06, 2021 11:22 am

Yes most of them come from you!

So, he’s back in the building... hmm

NewClaret wrote: ↑

Wed Jun 30, 2021 6:24 pm

Or there’s just a widening gulf in quality between the Championship and PL? I think it’s getting bigger and that is a risk to our strategy of it being our main market for player recruitment.

To KRBFC’s points, Wood has been linked with big moves away, as has Brownhill this summer. We’d have players in demand for sure, although I agree with the broader point that we now need to be replenishing the squad with younger players.

who was Brownhill linked with ? I missed that

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑

Thu Jul 08, 2021 6:49 pm

who was Brownhill linked with ? I missed that

West Ham I think. It was very tenuous and I think it was a rehash of an earlier link and mainly confined to twitter. Although so were Wood links, etc really.

kentonclaret wrote: ↑

Tue Jul 06, 2021 7:48 am

Ask the reporter at the Daily Mail who wrote the article that has resulted in over 600 posts on this topic.

That’s exactly what it is

ClaretTony wrote: ↑

Thu Jul 08, 2021 8:11 pm

That’s exactly what it is

No deal in place as far as you know then Tony?

Bumped for djemba djemba

Must be a really heavy pen.

gandhisflipflop wrote: ↑

Mon Jul 05, 2021 11:56 am

Roy is a bit older than 50!

Yes he's being going for the last 25 years!

Somewhat strange comments from Dyche in an interview clip currently showing on SSN transfers
Interviewer was asking about speculation of McNeill being linked with Everton
Dyche replies that he (McNeill) is still with us and immediately also says (with no questioning about his own personal situation), "and so am I"
Then repeats he is still at Burnley otherwise he would not be doing that interview - almost like he wants to keep his own contract situation at the top of any discussions

jojomk1 wrote: ↑

Sun Jul 25, 2021 6:39 pm

Somewhat strange comments from Dyche in an interview clip currently showing on SSN transfers
Interviewer was asking about speculation of McNeill being linked with Everton
Dyche replies that he (McNeill) is still with us and immediately also says (with no questioning about his own personal situation), "and so am I"
Then repeats he is still at Burnley otherwise he would not be doing that interview - almost like he wants to keep his own contract situation at the top of any discussions

perhaps he thinks he is more important than Dwight?

jojomk1 wrote: ↑

Sun Jul 25, 2021 6:39 pm

Somewhat strange comments from Dyche in an interview clip currently showing on SSN transfers
Interviewer was asking about speculation of McNeill being linked with Everton
Dyche replies that he (McNeill) is still with us and immediately also says (with no questioning about his own personal situation), "and so am I"
Then repeats he is still at Burnley otherwise he would not be doing that interview - almost like he wants to keep his own contract situation at the top of any discussions

Or possibly deflect the attention from the Dwight links? Answer the question with a different answer. He’s very good at that.

He could be making the point that journalists have been asking questions about Dyche moving for many years now, and it seems they are going to do the same about McNeil.

He could have had a scotch egg before the interview and the thought of his gassy breath distracted him making him unsure whether the question he'd just answered was actually about himself. In his momentary panic he blurted out "so am I"

boatshed bill wrote: ↑

Sun Jul 25, 2021 7:11 pm

perhaps he thinks he is more important than Dwight?

He is

Still no luck with this one, eh?

Why would he commit his long term future to a club that isn't matching his ambitions?

ClaretAndJew wrote: ↑

Mon Jul 26, 2021 8:33 pm

Why would he commit his long term future to a club that isn't matching his ambitions?

A pay rise.

martin_p wrote: ↑

Mon Jul 26, 2021 9:18 pm

A pay rise.

We're struggling to sign player, I doubt there's enough to persuade him to stay.

ClaretAndJew wrote: ↑

Mon Jul 26, 2021 9:22 pm

We're struggling to sign player, I doubt there's enough to persuade him to stay.

I’m pretty sure we’ll be paying more than the dole.

Well with a couple of weeks to go to the season kicking off we have signed one player.

If we don’t sign anyone else then either Dyche may will be off or he has been assured by Pace that he won’t be sacked after relegation and has excepted the situation.

Of course if we do eventually sign 2 3 players that may be enough for us to survive and stay up again.

I look forward to hearing news of a couple of good signings at least.