Outstanding work from Southgate managing to pick a lineup without a right back

TAA injured and out, Walker and James still not available due to Chelsea and City being in Champs League final, Trippier played on Thursday so being rested. Looks like Godfrey at right back.

Champions League final was a week ago. They're professional athletes. Surely if there's any point at all to these friendlies, it's to tune a team for the tournament.

How many of these will start the first game of the tournament?

fanzone wrote: ↑

Sun Jun 06, 2021 4:04 pm

How many of these will start the first game of the tournament?

Good question, out of the starters you'd think Grealish, Rashford and Shaw are the three realistically who have a chance to start against Croatia.

claretburns wrote: ↑

Sun Jun 06, 2021 4:33 pm

Good question, out of the starters you'd think Grealish, Rashford and Shaw are the three realistically who have a chance to start against Croatia.

Don’t know why Rashford is in the squad based on recent form .

joey13 wrote: ↑

Sun Jun 06, 2021 4:40 pm

Don’t know why Rashford is in the squad based on recent form .

Definitely. He’s been really poor for some time now.

I don’t think he will start in the tournament tbh

claretburns wrote: ↑

Sun Jun 06, 2021 4:33 pm

Good question, out of the starters you'd think Grealish, Rashford and Shaw are the three realistically who have a chance to start against Croatia.

Sounds about right to me, I'd add Mings to that list if Gareth goes 3 at the back in the Croatia game.

But it does seem bizarre to have warm up games and not play your 1st XI and try and get some sort of continuity.

Interesting that he's picked the eve of a tournament to give Sam Johnstone his debut, I understand he'll need blooding at some point, but you'd have thought he'd have given Dean Henderson a game if he's going to be the number 2.

Jordan Henderson to get 45 minutes, so I'm guessing they'll be wholesale changes at HT.

But I honestly can't see many of this starting XI featuring in the opening match.

Tarky must be Sat at home watching this seething.....Mings ffs

joey13 wrote: ↑

Sun Jun 06, 2021 4:40 pm

Don’t know why Rashford is in the squad based on recent form .

Agreed 100% but you know out of Foden, Grealish, Sancho, Kane, Sterling, Mount and Rashford the front three will be Kane, Sterling and Rashford with Southgate in charge.

how come both games have been played at Boro ?

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑

Sun Jun 06, 2021 5:08 pm

how come both games have been played at Boro ?

tiger76 wrote: ↑

Sun Jun 06, 2021 4:44 pm

Sounds about right to me, I'd add Mings to that list if Gareth goes 3 at the back in the Croatia game.

But it does seem bizarre to have warm up games and not play your 1st XI and try and get some sort of continuity.

Interesting that he's picked the eve of a tournament to give Sam Johnstone his debut, I understand he'll need blooding at some point, but you'd have thought he'd have given Dean Henderson a game if he's going to be the number 2.

Jordan Henderson to get 45 minutes, so I'm guessing they'll be wholesale changes at HT.

But I honestly can't see many of this starting XI featuring in the opening match.

After Pitchforks antics in the last game he should be dropped......he's a Clown, like the manager.

Have the Romanians not been told about the new rule ... "Foul Grealish at every opportunity to maintain his claim to be the most fould footballer in the universe"

Bosscat wrote: ↑

Sun Jun 06, 2021 5:12 pm

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Sunderland, Newcastle ?

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑

Sun Jun 06, 2021 5:15 pm

Sunderland, Newcastle ?

Presumably it makes sense to play both games at one venue due to Covid

Can’t even see England getting to the last 8 tbh, but Gareth will prob keep his job, get a contract extension, and we will continue being in the wildernesses. Mings!! Christ on a bike.

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑

Sun Jun 06, 2021 5:15 pm

Sunderland, Newcastle ?

Boro's "Rockcliffe" training facility...

How much are Dortmund wanting for Sancho? Whatever it is it's too much.

Henderson hasn't played for 3 months due to injury yet Clown Southgate picks him ?
Southgate really is totally clueless

taio wrote: ↑

Sun Jun 06, 2021 5:21 pm

Presumably it makes sense to play both games at one venue due to Covid

great point !! somehow I didn't think of that, I'll blame Sunday morning

Conroysleftfoot wrote: ↑

Sun Jun 06, 2021 5:26 pm

How much are Dortmund wanting for Sancho? Whatever it is it's too much.

£81m apparently.

nearly forgot, Southgate out !

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑

Sun Jun 06, 2021 5:35 pm

nearly forgot, Southgate out !

He can stay for me. Dyche would be in the running if he was to leave.

Christ this is dogger. Maybe if Southgate concentrated on training the players instead of lecturing the public, we might look half decent.

Bosscat wrote: ↑

Sun Jun 06, 2021 5:14 pm

Have the Romanians not been told about the new rule ... "Foul Grealish at every opportunity to maintain his claim to be the most fould footballer in the universe"

That’s the fourth foul on him and it’s not even been 40 minutes.

Bosscat wrote: ↑

Sun Jun 06, 2021 5:14 pm

Have the Romanians not been told about the new rule ... "Foul Grealish at every opportunity to maintain his claim to be the most fould footballer in the universe"

Yup someones reminded them ... Grealish now getting battered almost everytime he has the ball

It’s like when you decide to camp next door to an electric sub station.

It’s like coming out of the dentist after three fillings.

It’s like the pain you get when your car has failed it’s MOT and needs £***** spent to get it through.

It’s like watching England.

taio wrote: ↑

Sun Jun 06, 2021 5:38 pm

He can stay for me. Dyche would be in the running if he was to leave.

doubtful, you would think the media would be all over Howe and Potter long before Dyche

Serious yawn of a game......and Romania are Championship standard at best.

Billyblah wrote: ↑

Sun Jun 06, 2021 5:50 pm

Serious yawn of a game......and Romania are Championship standard at best.

Yes and this is a Romanian side who haven't even qualified for the Euro's and arguably they've edged that 1st 45, decent save by Johnstone right on HT, but that back line is giving me kittens I have to say.

If Mings is starting at the Euros we won’t even get through the group. He is absolute garbage.

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑

Sun Jun 06, 2021 5:49 pm

doubtful, you would think the media would be all over Howe and Potter long before Dyche

Dean Smith and Dyche are the two favourites for the job. Dyche’s grenade football would be a joy to watch in the World Cup.

Unbelievably Romania are one of only 5 teams in the world we have a losing record against and we haven’t beaten them since 1970.

Milltown1882 wrote: ↑

Sun Jun 06, 2021 5:56 pm

Dean Smith and Dyche are the two favourites for the job. Dyche’s grenade football would be a joy to watch in the World Cup.

really ? wow that's insane

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑

Sun Jun 06, 2021 6:02 pm

really ? wow that's insane

Yep him and Smith are both 5/1

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑

Sun Jun 06, 2021 5:49 pm

doubtful, you would think the media would be all over Howe and Potter long before Dyche

As things stand as we can’t predict the future he would certainly be a front runner if the FA want an Englishman

taio wrote: ↑

Sun Jun 06, 2021 6:05 pm

As things stand as we can’t predict the future he would certainly be a front runner if the FA want an Englishman

he would do a better job than Southdud that's for sure, but like you I'd rather him be with us !

We cannot defend against also rans prior to the tournament, how are we going to defend against the top teams?

Mings is a liability! He will cost us in the tournament if he has to play. How on earth is he there ahead of Tarkowski? I’d argue Tomori is also a better option.

Dyche’s England XI

Pope
Trippier
Keane
Tarkowski
Mee
Taylor
Brownhill
Cork
Westwood
McNeil
Ings

Milltown1882 wrote: ↑

Sun Jun 06, 2021 5:56 pm

Dean Smith and Dyche are the two favourites for the job. Dyche’s grenade football would be a joy to watch in the World Cup.

It would be more entertaining than this dross!

Why doesn't he play something resembling his preferred starting line-up?
At least for 30 mins or so.

Wow - I just jumped out of the sofa for the second time this half!

Bladders and old age are a real bastion.

Taffy on the wing wrote: ↑

Sun Jun 06, 2021 6:19 pm

Why doesn't he play something resembling his preferred starting line-up?
At least for 30 mins or so.

Because he wants 2nd in the group to avoid France or Germany so a slow start won’t be a disaster, the extended rest for CL finalists may benefit players later.

I've really no idea what Southgate's plans/tactics are ? Seemingly give it to Rashford and hope he beats someone for pace ?

Southgate is clueless. This is absolute bobbins.

Has Henderson come on yet? Sancho and Mings totally overrated.

Taffy on the wing wrote: ↑

Sun Jun 06, 2021 6:19 pm

Why doesn't he play something resembling his preferred starting line-up?
At least for 30 mins or so.

He’s given all City and Chelsea players a weeks rest and assume he doesn’t want Kane picking up a needless injury again.

Penno.

Grealish has to play every minute at the Euro’s.

Rashford shouldn’t start for me. I’d go with this -

Pickford

Walker Maguire Stones Shaw

Rice
Henderson Mount

Foden Kane Sterling


Providing Henderson is fit that is. If not then Ward-Prowse for me. Tough between Sterling and Grealish but I think we need that pace in behind. With Grealish there would be too many players coming for the ball to feet, where Sterling gives us the option in behind, especially given Harry Kane keeps dropping deeper these days. Which also needs to stop during this tournament , keep him central and in the box!

It looks like Southgate will go with 3 at the back at times though so expect Walker to centre back with James out at wing back, with one of Sterling or Foden to be dropped.