Ollie Robinson

[Milltown1882]

Suspended from all international cricket pending an investigation. Hardly surprising but I feel this story could run on and on and on.

[PaintYorkClaretnBlue]

Usual story of somebody sitting on it until he’s had a bit of success. Why not bring it out earlier??

[LeadBelly]

Sad people digging out past silliness to try and bring down people who have achieved something in the present day.

I'm 71 and I cringe at some of the things I got up to 16-23. I'm very sympathetic towards Ollie Robinson but feel some repulsion towards the people who dig out dirt on young people who have moved on to some fame and left their indiscretions behind.

Authorities have to "make a gesture" I guess but hopefully Robinson's current character is what matters.

[TheFamilyCat]

Suspended from all international cricket pending an investigation. Hardly surprising but I feel this story could run on and on and on.

It won't run on and on. He's been suspended, then probably banned (a ban which he will have served while suspended) and that will be it, done and dusted.

Unless he is guilty of any further indiscretions in the future.

[SalisburyClaret]

Why haven’t they been investigating this during the test? It should all be sorted by now. He’s been our best bowler so let’s take him out the team while we pontificate over some lunches.

[Billy Balfour]

He was a dick, but he was young and nieve. His apology should have been sufficient.

[Elizabeth]

This is the going rate in today’s society. Will give the pontificators a perfect platform.

[randomclaret2]

Let he who is without sin cast the first stone

[Murger]

A joke really. I wonder if those who dug up the messages, those in the press that published the story, those that have suspended him and those who are defending the decision have lived perfect lives with no indiscretions?

[tim_noone]

Why are people surprised..... our own Ashley was Vilified on here a couple of weeks ago.

[Elizabeth]

Yeh Tim , you nearly made a good comparison there

[tim_noone]

Yeh Tim , you nearly made a good comparison there

Not really.... If theres Sh!t to be thrown ..it will be thrown no matter what the misdemeanor.

[Red Fox Rocks Socks]

I’d bet that if you looked at what comedians were pedalling 10 years ago edgy or otherwise I’d be surprised if those sort of jokes weren’t in their repertoire. More a showing off/education/growing up incident for me

[tarkys_ears]

"HERE YOU GO SON, FIRST PROFESSIONAL CONTRACT. OH BY THE WAY HAVE YOU EVER HAD A SOCIAL MEDIA ACCOUNT WE CAN DELETE ANY TRACE OF?"

How hard is that to do?

[Elizabeth]

Not really.... If theres Sh!t to be thrown ..it will be thrown no matter what the misdemeanor.

We got to distinguish between what is serious and what isn’t serious . I think you have failed on this occasion
I’m aware there will be geeks out there happy to say what Robinson did was inexcusable whatever age he was. Geeks

[LongsideClaret]

I believe the suspension is whilst there is an investigation. What he did was wrong and had he done the tweets last week I would have been fully supportive of banning him for a significant period of time if not indefinitely.

But he was a relative kid when he did it and he has said he does not hold those views today and all we can do is believe that. Him being dropped from the second test and some form of diversity programme would be a suitable punishment for me

[bobinho]

He was a dick, but he was young and nieve. His apology should have been sufficient.

Agree entirely, but it wasnt with Andre, and it won’t be here.

[tim_noone]

We got to distinguish between what is serious and what isn’t serious . I think you have failed on this occasion
I’m aware there will be geeks out there happy to say what Robinson did was inexcusable whatever age he was. Geeks

I Failed my 11 plus....another later fail down the lines fine ..I'm older now. Thanks

[GordonvaleClaret]

If the powers that be were so incensed at such a terrible evil, why did they wait until the match finished before suspending him.
Are they hypocrites or just afraid of the criticism they would have copped had they done so?
If this sort of persecution has become the daily norm then It's high time Fred Trueman's record was expunged after his "Pass t'salt, Gunga Din" comment.

[claretandy]

It's unfortunate that the old farts on the ECB board are too old to have been on social media in their youth, then people could trawl through their historical posts.

[TheFamilyCat]

It's unfortunate that the old farts on the ECB board are too old to have been on social media in their youth, then people could trawl through their historical posts.

You're probably confusing the ECB with the MCC but it's a simple enough mistake to make. For simple people.

[kentonclaret]

We have to accept that we are living in a completely different world now where news organisations, advertisers and sporting bodies are tying themselves in knots trying to demonstrate that they are diverse and inclusive.

[claretandy]

You're probably confusing the ECB with the MCC but it's a simple enough mistake to make. For simple people.

Nope, it's the ECB who have suspended him champ.

[tarkys_ears]

Nope, it's the ECB who have suspended him champ.

it's a simple enough mistake to make. For simple people.

[TheFamilyCat]

Nope, it's the ECB who have suspended him champ.

Yep, but the ECB board isn't made up of 'old farts' as you so incorrectly claimed. Champ.

[TheFamilyCat]

it's a simple enough mistake to make. For simple people.

You're absolutely right.

[willsclarets]

We have to accept that we are living in a completely different world now where news organisations, advertisers and sporting bodies are tying themselves in knots trying to demonstrate that they are diverse and inclusive.

I hope we also come to accept that singular actions or stupid errors of judgement don't represent the character of a complex and evolving person. A human, who by nature makes mistakes and learns from them. Advertisers in particular are just as guilty of historically portraying men and women or particular cultures or races in a way that reinforces age old stereotypes for instance. They just move with the zeitgeist and pretend they always had the values that none of them did. Individuals don't have that luxury in a world that scrutinises individuals merely to point score, not for progress sake. Thankfully attitudes are changing towards race, ethnicity and sexuality, that's great, but at the same time there are a lot of people pretending to be holier than thou, willing to hang others on "crimes" they no doubt committed in some shape or form during their lives. It doesn't move us forward to hang anyone who steps off the mark slightly, it moves us backward. Why, because it gives actual bigots ammunition to proclaim that those who don't share their beliefs a defence. I look back on instances like Danny Baker getting fired and cringe. One what I believe to be the honest mistake of a man who clearly isn't racist, career on radio gone.
Things like this with ollie are even worse given his age , so while I'm glad he's sorry for what he said that should be the end of it. It is in no shape or form a mistake that should derail his career or be a judgement on his whole character

[claretandy]

Yep, but the ECB board isn't made up of 'old farts' as you so incorrectly claimed. Champ.

With the decision that they've made, by definition, they are old farts, chump.

[TheFamilyCat]

With the decision that they've made, by definition, they are old farts, chump.

I'd have thought 'old farts' would take to complete opposite decision to be honest and made him captain for "sticking it up the fuzzy wuzzies" or something like that.

Aren't they being 'woke'?

[Falcon]

If you start drawing lines for limitation for time-limiting not being punished for posting that sort of thing then you'll set yourself up to fail.

How long ago is permissible to write offensive stuff, 2 years, 5 years...?

What if the next offender is only 2 days shy of the line? Or just 2 day over it. There will be a huge deal made of it and you'll end up pushing the line about.

I'm amazed that well-known people aren't having agents trawling through their historical social media presence deleting anything that could land them in hot water.

I wrote some horrible stuff online in my teens but even as a non-famous person, I've gone back and deleted it all. Potential employers etc can and will go through your social media.

[Billy Balfour]

It's unfortunate that the old farts on the ECB board are too old to have been on social media in their youth, then people could trawl through their historical posts.

Tweet from 1933: I say, old boy. This Hitler chap seems a mighty spiffing fellow. He's certainly got the Boche back on the right track.

Tweet from 1939: I say, old chap. Those Tweets are now ancient history, and after all, it was just a bit of bantering, or maybe I was hacked or something. Right, where's my uniform and valet.

[TheFamilyCat]

If you start drawing lines for limitation for time-limiting not being punished for posting that sort of thing then you'll set yourself up to fail.

How long ago is permissible to write offensive stuff, 2 years, 5 years...?

What if the next offender is only 2 days shy of the line? Or just 2 day over it. There will be a huge deal made of it and you'll end up pushing the line about.

I'm amazed that well-known people aren't having agents trawling through their historical social media presence deleting anything that could land them in hot water.

I wrote some horrible stuff online in my teens but even as a non-famous person, I've gone back and deleted it all. Potential employers etc can and will go through your social media.

And where do you draw the line on the offence? What can be written off as being "young and naive"?

[Elbarad]

It's like we are all living in the world and times of the book, The Scarlet Letter.

[Milltown1882]

ECB investigating another England players tweets for ‘offensive tweets while a teenager’. Almost like the social media people have just started doing their jobs.

[SalisburyClaret]

If you start drawing lines for limitation for time-limiting not being punished for posting that sort of thing then you'll set yourself up to fail.

How long ago is permissible to write offensive stuff, 2 years, 5 years...?

What if the next offender is only 2 days shy of the line? Or just 2 day over it. There will be a huge deal made of it and you'll end up pushing the line about.

I'm amazed that well-known people aren't having agents trawling through their historical social media presence deleting anything that could land them in hot water.

I wrote some horrible stuff online in my teens but even as a non-famous person, I've gone back and deleted it all. Potential employers etc can and will go through your social media.

I agree - Having an agent to control your past and current online presence is fairly common practice in the corporate world. For some reason it’s bypassed the sporting world.

[Burnley Ace]

ECB investigating another England players tweets for ‘offensive tweets while a teenager’. Almost like the social media people have just started doing their jobs.

When the player was a child! Michael Carberry will have him banned for life.

[Local cricketer]

So a magazine runs a interview with this latest player 7 weeks ago about mental health then search’s through the players social media to throw them under the bus. The world has officially lost the plot

[tim_noone]

When the player was a child! Michael Carberry will have him banned for life.

This MC is agenda Driven and doesn't see things in black n white. White guys are todays Bad Guys its becoming more and more Evident.

[rufus lumley]

The LTA is lucky that Twitter did not exist when Buster Mottram was playing tennis .

[tiger76]

More players Twitter history being poured over, at this rate England will struggle to field an XI soon.https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/57407788

[TheFamilyCat]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/57697159

Banned for 8 games, 5 suspended. Has already served the ban while suspended so free to play again.