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Re: Today's Games

Post by minnieclaret » Mon Jun 14, 2021 8:16 pm

I was expecting to see Guidetti in the Sweden squad but on checking he is now on loan in Bundesliga 2 at Hannover. Only 29.

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Re: Today's Games

Post by Vegas Claret » Mon Jun 14, 2021 8:17 pm

Milltown1882 wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 8:04 pm
I don’t understand how Spain continuously get away with their players not singing along to their anthem and nobody bats an eyelid but one or two England players don’t sing along to God Save The Queen and it’s scandalous.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Today's Games

Post by Rileybobs » Mon Jun 14, 2021 8:18 pm

Sweden’s ball retention is impressive.

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Re: Today's Games

Post by Vegas Claret » Mon Jun 14, 2021 8:20 pm

pitch looks pretty crap

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Re: Today's Games

Post by Milltown1882 » Mon Jun 14, 2021 8:22 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 8:17 pm
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Been trying to get a reaction off that one for years, you win some you lose some :lol:
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Post by boatshed bill » Mon Jun 14, 2021 8:33 pm

IMHO. Football is in real danger of having all the entertainment coached out of it.
i was looking forward to this game but I'm struggling with it already.

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Re: Today's Games

Post by minnieclaret » Mon Jun 14, 2021 8:36 pm

Just been checking and if England win their group they play the runner up from France, Germany or Portugal. If they are second in the group they play runners up from Spain, Sweden, Slovakia or Poland.
Will GS have the nous to throw a match?

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Re: Today's Games

Post by Zlatan » Mon Jun 14, 2021 8:42 pm

minnieclaret wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 8:36 pm
Just been checking and if England win their group they play the runner up from France, Germany or Portugal. If they are second in the group they play runners up from Spain, Sweden, Slovakia or Poland.
Will GS have the nous to throw a match?
Give the Scots something to fight for against Croatia perhaps…?

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Post by Vegas Claret » Mon Jun 14, 2021 8:53 pm

apologies if this has been reported :

Peter Schmeichel has claimed that UEFA threatened Denmark with a 3-0 forfeit if they did not resume their opening Euro 2020 fixture after Christian Eriksen's cardiac arrest. Denmark's Group B clash against Finland in Copenhagen on Saturday was initially suspended after 41 minutes following Eriksen's on-field collapse

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Re: Today's Games

Post by Winstonswhite » Mon Jun 14, 2021 8:54 pm

minnieclaret wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 8:36 pm
Just been checking and if England win their group they play the runner up from France, Germany or Portugal. If they are second in the group they play runners up from Spain, Sweden, Slovakia or Poland.
Will GS have the nous to throw a match?
Well he threw the last group match at the World Cup didn’t he?

Anyway it doesn’t really matter because if we did finish 2nd it would just mean playing the winners of France/Portugal/Germany in the quarters….

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Re: Today's Games

Post by Zlatan » Mon Jun 14, 2021 9:02 pm

Winstonswhite wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 8:54 pm
Well he threw the last group match at the World Cup didn’t he?

Anyway it doesn’t really matter because if we did finish 2nd it would just mean playing the winners of France/Portugal/Germany in the quarters….
If that’s the case then better to beat them early then, by the QF they’ll be stronger and more difficult to beat (traditionally better teams get better)

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Re: Today's Games

Post by boatshed bill » Mon Jun 14, 2021 9:10 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 8:53 pm
apologies if this has been reported :

Peter Schmeichel has claimed that UEFA threatened Denmark with a 3-0 forfeit if they did not resume their opening Euro 2020 fixture after Christian Eriksen's cardiac arrest. Denmark's Group B clash against Finland in Copenhagen on Saturday was initially suspended after 41 minutes following Eriksen's on-field collapse
So not the players' first choice to resume the game after all.
Kasper Schmeichel also saying they were pressured. Would have lost some of their "recovery time" due to any rescheduling.

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Re: Today's Games

Post by HunterST_BFC » Mon Jun 14, 2021 9:23 pm

Alexander Isak !!!

Sign him up !!!

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Post by Stalbansclaret » Mon Jun 14, 2021 9:29 pm

Ooh Robin Quaison is coming on for Sweden

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Re: Today's Games

Post by boatshed bill » Mon Jun 14, 2021 9:30 pm

Stalbansclaret wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 9:29 pm
Ooh Robin Quaison is coming on for Sweden
Are we still monitoring him?

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Post by Stalbansclaret » Mon Jun 14, 2021 9:34 pm

No idea but any vague Burnley link is of interest !

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Post by thelaughingclaret » Mon Jun 14, 2021 9:35 pm

Typical Spain this is, pass it about nicely but have nothing at all up Top.
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Post by DCWat » Mon Jun 14, 2021 9:39 pm

boatshed bill wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 9:10 pm
So not the players' first choice to resume the game after all.
Kasper Schmeichel also saying they were pressured. Would have lost some of their "recovery time" due to any rescheduling.
It was pretty obvious that there was far more at play than the UEFA spiel.

Team mate taken to hospital, having been given emergency medical treatment to save his life, right in front of them. Not a chance in hell they all thought - you know what, we’re well up for finishing this game!
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Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Mon Jun 14, 2021 9:43 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 8:53 pm
apologies if this has been reported :

Peter Schmeichel has claimed that UEFA threatened Denmark with a 3-0 forfeit if they did not resume their opening Euro 2020 fixture after Christian Eriksen's cardiac arrest. Denmark's Group B clash against Finland in Copenhagen on Saturday was initially suspended after 41 minutes following Eriksen's on-field collapse
Incorrect from what I've seen/read.

They were told they could finish the game on Sunday at 12pm kick off, or finish it that evening.

The players went with then, although I don't think all agreed to it.

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Post by boatshed bill » Mon Jun 14, 2021 9:45 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 9:43 pm
Incorrect from what I've seen/read.

They were told they could finish the game on Sunday at 12pm kick off, or finish it that evening.

The players went with then, although I don't think all agreed to it.
I got the impression that the crowd stayed in the ground fully expecting a resumption.

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Re: Today's Games

Post by Vegas Claret » Mon Jun 14, 2021 9:47 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 9:43 pm
Incorrect from what I've seen/read.

They were told they could finish the game on Sunday at 12pm kick off, or finish it that evening.

The players went with then, although I don't think all agreed to it.
I'll go with Schmeical's version today, don't believe a word UEFA put out
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Re: Today's Games

Post by Vegas Claret » Mon Jun 14, 2021 9:48 pm

Impressed with that Olsson lad for Sweden today, came up through the ranks at Arsenal from memory

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Post by DCWat » Mon Jun 14, 2021 9:51 pm

It’s to be hoped that the tournament improves as it progresses. So far, it’s been pretty bloody boring.

France and Portugal won’t be worrying about anyone they’ve seen so far.

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Post by HitchinClaret » Mon Jun 14, 2021 9:52 pm

thelaughingclaret wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 9:35 pm
Typical Spain this is, pass it about nicely but have nothing at all up Top.
Yep, all fur coat and no knickers for me too

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Re: Today's Games

Post by minnieclaret » Mon Jun 14, 2021 9:57 pm

Sweden, the tournaments Burnley.
Olsen, the tournaments Nick Pope.
Now I have a team to follow.

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Post by tiger76 » Mon Jun 14, 2021 10:06 pm

Spain-Sweden the first 0-0 although I'm not quite sure how, both sides missed sitters which they should have buried, but a much better point for Sweden than Spain.

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Post by Dyched » Mon Jun 14, 2021 10:09 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 9:47 pm
I'll go with Schmeical's version today, don't believe a word UEFA put out
He said they had 3 options. Forfeit. Carry on that night or play 12pm on Sunday.

I’m not actually sure what UEFA could have done in that position.

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Post by boatshed bill » Mon Jun 14, 2021 10:13 pm

Dyched wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 10:09 pm
He said they had 3 options. Forfeit. Carry on that night or play 12pm on Sunday.

I’m not actually sure what UEFA could have done in that position.
Apparently the forfeit was a 3-0 defeat. Playing on the Sunday would have seriously reduced both teams recovery time.

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Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Mon Jun 14, 2021 10:18 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 9:47 pm
I'll go with Schmeical's version today, don't believe a word UEFA put out
Christian Eriksen: Resuming Denmark-Finland match was 'least bad decision', says Martin Braithwaite - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/57468439

You go with Peter, I'll go with what the player on the pitch at the time has said.

They had just 3 options and had to pick either finish the game at one of the 2 available times or forfeit the game.

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Post by tiger76 » Mon Jun 14, 2021 10:20 pm

Dyched wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 10:09 pm
He said they had 3 options. Forfeit. Carry on that night or play 12pm on Sunday.

I’m not actually sure what UEFA could have done in that position.
It's was an unfortunate situation for everybody, but i don't see what other options UEFA had given that Finland are due to play on Wednesday, and the Danes on Thursday, so they made the best of a bad situation as far as I can see.

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Post by boatshed bill » Mon Jun 14, 2021 10:26 pm

tiger76 wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 10:20 pm
It's was an unfortunate situation for everybody, but i don't see what other options UEFA had given that Finland are due to play on Wednesday, and the Danes on Thursday, so they made the best of a bad situation as far as I can see.
I suppose they could have offered the draw?
Whether both would have accepted is another matter.

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Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Mon Jun 14, 2021 10:27 pm

boatshed bill wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 10:26 pm
I suppose they could have offered the draw?
Whether both would have accepted is another matter.
It sets a precedent then anytime a player suffers a serious injury and that requires a change to the laws of the game, which wouldn't happen during the tournament.

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Post by boatshed bill » Mon Jun 14, 2021 10:29 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 10:27 pm
It sets a precedent then anytime a player suffers a serious injury and that requires a change to the laws of the game, which wouldn't happen during the tournament.
Fair comment.
But it's not that often that a player virtually dies on the pitch.

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Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Mon Jun 14, 2021 10:34 pm

boatshed bill wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 10:29 pm
Fair comment.
But it's not that often that a player virtually dies on the pitch.
Thats true, however the players weren't going to do anything until they'd been made aware of his wellbeing.
If he was still unconscious/life support etc then I'd say Uefa were out of order, but they also knew he was alive and well before making demands.

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Post by tim_noone » Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:19 pm

DCWat wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 9:51 pm
It’s to be hoped that the tournament improves as it progresses. So far, it’s been pretty bloody boring.

France and Portugal won’t be worrying about anyone they’ve seen so far.
I wouldn't say Holland v Ukraine was boring tbf.

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Post by DCWat » Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:28 pm

tim_noone wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:19 pm
I wouldn't say Holland v Ukraine was boring tbf.
Only one I bloody missed :D

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Post by elwaclaret » Tue Jun 15, 2021 12:08 am

Milltown1882 wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 8:22 pm
Been trying to get a reaction off that one for years, you win some you lose some :lol:
I bet they’d all sing along if it was Aviva Espania! I guess that went over a few heads, it made me smile.

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Post by Vegas Claret » Tue Jun 15, 2021 1:55 am

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 10:18 pm
Christian Eriksen: Resuming Denmark-Finland match was 'least bad decision', says Martin Braithwaite - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/57468439

You go with Peter, I'll go with what the player on the pitch at the time has said.

They had just 3 options and had to pick either finish the game at one of the 2 available times or forfeit the game.
least bad decision doesn't make it a good decision and that's the point. I'm not sure of the in's and out's but being told of 3 options right after it happened (they returned to the pitch about 90 mins after from memory) is abhorrent from UEFA and I expect nothing less

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Post by evensteadiereddie » Tue Jun 15, 2021 7:53 am

I think the three options offered by UEFA were fair enough. I don't see anything "abhorrent" about them nor a reason to expect "nothing less".
A "good" decision can never arise from such dreadful circumstances, the players did what they could and, after hearing the relatively good news about the lad's condition, decided to get on with it.

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Post by Conroysleftfoot » Tue Jun 15, 2021 7:59 am

Lineker came up with a suggestion last night, probably not his own, that game should have been abandoned and called a 1-1 draw. Seems a sensible idea.

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Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Tue Jun 15, 2021 8:01 am

Congratulations Spain

The first game of the competition that has been turned off, just think some people enjoy watching the kind of football Spain played last night.

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Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Tue Jun 15, 2021 8:10 am

Vegas Claret wrote:
Tue Jun 15, 2021 1:55 am
least bad decision doesn't make it a good decision and that's the point. I'm not sure of the in's and out's but being told of 3 options right after it happened (they returned to the pitch about 90 mins after from memory) is abhorrent from UEFA and I expect nothing less
They had to do something though.
They didn't have the luxury the FA had after Muamba incident where it could be rearranged 10 days later.

They returned to the pitch 2 hours after it was halted, we don't know exactly when Uefa spoke to the teams, but I'm going to guess it wasn't right after he was taken to hospital, maybe after it was confirmed he was going to be ok, but I don't know.

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Re: Today's Games

Post by tiger76 » Tue Jun 15, 2021 10:51 am

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Tue Jun 15, 2021 8:01 am
Congratulations Spain

The first game of the competition that has been turned off, just think some people enjoy watching the kind of football Spain played last night.
85% possession, and 917 passes for Spain, and ultimately zilch to show for all that effort, you can pass the opposition to death, and bore the pants off the watching public, but if you can't put the ball in the onion bag you'll get nowhere.
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Post by Vegas Claret » Tue Jun 15, 2021 3:38 pm

Hungary host Portugal today in front of a rare 61,000 capacity crowd, with life in Budapest back to normal for residents carrying immunity cards after the PM defied the EU and bought vaccines from Russia and China.
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Post by BenWickes » Tue Jun 15, 2021 5:24 pm

Cheering on the Magyars. Never met a Hungarian I didn't like.
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Post by Vegas Claret » Tue Jun 15, 2021 5:43 pm

really hoping Hungary score in the second half just to see pure bedlam behind that goal !

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Post by evensteadiereddie » Tue Jun 15, 2021 6:13 pm

More diving going in this game than at one of DeeJay's parties... :?
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Post by Conroysleftfoot » Tue Jun 15, 2021 6:17 pm

How the hell do we stop this feigning of injury? I've just seen an Hungarian forward go down as if he's been forearm smashed when Dias looked like he'd just brushed his face with his hand. Must Be really hard for the ref to judge. But, how do you stop it?

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Post by BenWickes » Tue Jun 15, 2021 6:20 pm

Conroysleftfoot wrote:
Tue Jun 15, 2021 6:17 pm
How the hell do we stop this feigning of injury? I've just seen an Hungarian forward go down as if he's been forearm smashed when Dias looked like he'd just brushed his face with his hand. Must Be really hard for the ref to judge. But, how do you stop it?
Was disappointing to see that but the Portuguese are no innocents in the dark arts, including Ronaldo.

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Post by Conroysleftfoot » Tue Jun 15, 2021 6:26 pm

BenWickes wrote:
Tue Jun 15, 2021 6:20 pm
Was disappointing to see that but the Portuguese are no innocents in the dark arts, including Ronaldo.
Absolutely, every team does it, but how do you stop it? It's the thing that really annoys me about the modern game, I can live with most things in the game but that really pi**es me off.

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