" The Athletic " ... problems in French Euro Squad !

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" The Athletic " ... problems in French Euro Squad !

Post by Clarets4me » Sat Jul 03, 2021 10:47 pm

Players parents falling out in lumps in the Stands, hotels that weren't fancy enough, squad splits, Mbappe and Pogba " arrogant ", Benzema a " bad influence ", all quite magnificently " French " !!

At the end of the day, their 4 games saw them score 7 but concede 6 and therein lies the problem .... 8-)

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Re: " The Athletic " ... problems in French Euro Squad !

Post by Bin Ont Turf » Sat Jul 03, 2021 11:24 pm

One of the great delights is seeing the French getting beat.

One of my favourite matches in a World Cup was us beating them 3-1 in the 82 World Cup.

Bryan Robson BOOM!

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Post by cricketfieldclarets » Sat Jul 03, 2021 11:39 pm

Benzema is one of several reasons I knew they’d go out. Incredible talent. But not what the squad needed.

There was something not quite right about this french side from day one.

Too many egos not in check.

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Re: " The Athletic " ... problems in French Euro Squad !

Post by bf2k » Sat Jul 03, 2021 11:46 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:
Sat Jul 03, 2021 11:39 pm
Benzema is one of several reasons I knew they’d go out. Incredible talent. But not what the squad needed.

There was something not quite right about this french side from day one.

Too many egos not in check.
Egos abound I agree but talent should always rise yet this very talented team didn’t. I think a lot has to do with the ego of the manager. Her thought they’d walk this competition yet they were actually a million miles of it.

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Post by Rileybobs » Sun Jul 04, 2021 12:04 am

When they turned it on they looked unstoppable. But they had an arrogance and lack of team spirit that resulted in probably the strongest squad of players going home far earlier than they should.

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Re: " The Athletic " ... problems in French Euro Squad !

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Sun Jul 04, 2021 12:13 am

bf2k wrote:
Sat Jul 03, 2021 11:46 pm
Egos abound I agree but talent should always rise yet this very talented team didn’t. I think a lot has to do with the ego of the manager. Her thought they’d walk this competition yet they were actually a million miles of it.
You’d think so. But look at pogba when he scores that goal against Switzerland. Epitomises what I mean and epitomises pogba.

Look at Italy on the other hand. And even Denmark. Team spirit. Determination. Humility.

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Post by CFS » Sun Jul 04, 2021 12:18 am

cricketfieldclarets wrote:
Sun Jul 04, 2021 12:13 am
You’d think so. But look at pogba when he scores that goal against Switzerland. Epitomises what I mean and epitomises pogba.

Look at Italy on the other hand. And even Denmark. Team spirit. Determination. Humility.
Pogba has been one of the standout players of the tournament imo. As for his celebration nothing wrong with that it's what you see all kids doing and imitating. Think you see what he's really like in the dressing room very vocal and bringing the team together.

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Post by Garnerssoap » Sun Jul 04, 2021 12:54 am

Bin Ont Turf wrote:
Sat Jul 03, 2021 11:24 pm
One of the great delights is seeing the French getting beat.

One of my favourite matches in a World Cup was us beating them 3-1 in the 82 World Cup.

Bryan Robson BOOM!
Some of the best penned in moshing frenzy behind the goal you’ll ever see when that went in. Only eclipsed by nob end away in the sherpa some years later
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Post by Oshkoshclaret » Sun Jul 04, 2021 2:10 am

Garnerssoap wrote:
Sun Jul 04, 2021 12:54 am
Some of the best penned in moshing frenzy behind the goal you’ll ever see when that went in. Only eclipsed by nob end away in the sherpa some years later
The footage from that game encapsulates the style of an era. Rolled down socks, tiny shorts, untucked shirts, Mariner’s mullet.

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Post by Ptgclaret » Sun Jul 04, 2021 6:46 am

Said alot about their team spirit watching Mbappe walk off the pitch alone after the penalty miss. You'd have thought someone would have consoled him.

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Post by AfloatinClaret » Sun Jul 04, 2021 9:37 am

In much the same way as England 15-20 years ago, the French had a group of very talented (great?) players, but collectively they made a very fragile team; brilliant at times, but never consistently so.
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Post by TsarBomba » Sun Jul 04, 2021 9:42 am

cricketfieldclarets wrote:
Sat Jul 03, 2021 11:39 pm
Benzema is one of several reasons I knew they’d go out. Incredible talent. But not what the squad needed.

There was something not quite right about this french side from day one.

Too many egos not in check.
Benzema blackmailing a former team mate tells you all you need to know about his character and personality.

Wasn’t their a similar falling out at a major tournament in the 2000’s?

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Post by bfcjg » Sun Jul 04, 2021 10:37 am

Quelle surprise.

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Post by martin_p » Sun Jul 04, 2021 12:01 pm

I’d take the last 20 years of French international football over ours, despite their ‘problems’.

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Post by jrgbfc » Sun Jul 04, 2021 12:32 pm

Was a strange one recalling Benzema after so long.

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Post by Stayingup » Sun Jul 04, 2021 3:38 pm

The French in football, rubgy, can be brilliant but then they can fall apart. Must be in their psyche. Having lived among them I found also that they can obsess about petty matters. But they also are bon vivants!!!

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Post by Damo » Sun Jul 04, 2021 4:02 pm

Dembele has been filmed racially abusing a Asian technician too while Griezmann laughs along

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Post by cricketfieldclarets » Thu Jul 08, 2021 9:05 pm

TsarBomba wrote:
Sun Jul 04, 2021 9:42 am
Benzema blackmailing a former team mate tells you all you need to know about his character and personality.

Wasn’t their a similar falling out at a major tournament in the 2000’s?
2010 was one

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Post by cricketfieldclarets » Thu Jul 08, 2021 9:06 pm

CFS wrote:
Sun Jul 04, 2021 12:18 am
Pogba has been one of the standout players of the tournament imo. As for his celebration nothing wrong with that it's what you see all kids doing and imitating. Think you see what he's really like in the dressing room very vocal and bringing the team together.
It’s always about pogba with pogba. Said before if he had the work ethic and attitude of Ronaldo he’d be the best midfielder ever. But he hasn’t. So he isn’t.

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Post by CFS » Thu Jul 08, 2021 9:46 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:
Thu Jul 08, 2021 9:06 pm
It’s always about pogba with pogba. Said before if he had the work ethic and attitude of Ronaldo he’d be the best midfielder ever. But he hasn’t. So he isn’t.
So because he's not the midfielder EVER he has no right to celebrate? Lol ok

He's the best midfielder in his position in the premier league. He can't single handedly win the league or euros because if we're talking on the pitch what an earth did kante offer the whole tournament?

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Post by cricketfieldclarets » Thu Jul 08, 2021 10:06 pm

CFS wrote:
Thu Jul 08, 2021 9:46 pm
So because he's not the midfielder EVER he has no right to celebrate? Lol ok

He's the best midfielder in his position in the premier league. He can't single handedly win the league or euros because if we're talking on the pitch what an earth did kante offer the whole tournament?
Absolutely he can celebrate. But so often he acts like it’s game over before it actually is.

Sure he won the World Cup. And has had a decent club career. But he could and should be so much better if he had a bit more humility consistency and composure.

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Post by tim_noone » Thu Jul 08, 2021 10:21 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:
Thu Jul 08, 2021 10:06 pm
Absolutely he can celebrate. But so often he acts like it’s game over before it actually is.

Sure he won the World Cup. And has had a decent club career. But he could and should be so much better if he had a bit more humility consistency and composure.
Hes sh!te...pure n simple stop dressing it up :roll:

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Post by cricketfieldclarets » Thu Jul 08, 2021 10:53 pm

tim_noone wrote:
Thu Jul 08, 2021 10:21 pm
Hes sh!te...pure n simple stop dressing it up :roll:
He has his moments. But he then thinks jobs done. See goal against Switzerland

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Post by CFS » Thu Jul 08, 2021 11:22 pm

Paul Pogba is always happy, he portrays one image, and if you don’t know him you’d say that this guy doesn’t care, he’s not concentrating or fixing on what he needs to do, but he’s not like that at all.

“He’s very professional and works really hard. People look and say he doesn’t care, but that’s just not true for me. You’ve got to know him to really see what type of person he is.

“Above everything, he is a really hard worker, a professional player.”

Think I'd take information of someone who trains and plays with him on a daily basis than a random guy pretending to know what pogba is like lol.

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Post by cricketfieldclarets » Thu Jul 08, 2021 11:38 pm

We will agree to disagree. His medal haul is nowhere near the level it should be for a player of his calibre.

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Post by elwaclaret » Fri Jul 09, 2021 12:25 am

As the OP said, how very French. They would have a similar record to the Germans but rarely can they get anyone to cope and bring those French egos together. Resulting in All individuality no teamwork… back to form after a purple patch.

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Re: " The Athletic " ... problems in French Euro Squad !

Post by tiger76 » Fri Jul 09, 2021 10:19 am

It can't be a coincidence that the 2 nations who've displayed the most team spirit throughout the tournament England & Italy are lining up in the final on Sunday, and both these teams have shown that it's all about the squad over individuals, on paper Belgium & France have better players, but neither has managed to mould themselves into a cohesive team, whereas both England and Italy are each well-oiled machines where each and every player knows their roles, even the subs know what's required when they're called upon.

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Post by Silkyskills1 » Fri Jul 09, 2021 1:32 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:
Thu Jul 08, 2021 10:53 pm
He has his moments. But he then thinks jobs done. See goal against Switzerland
Totally agree with you. . It was 'his moment' but there was still a game to complete and that wasn't going to get in the way of a pose. He then 'disappeared' and his country paid the price.

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Post by CFS » Fri Jul 09, 2021 2:14 pm

Silkyskills1 wrote:
Fri Jul 09, 2021 1:32 pm
Totally agree with you. . It was 'his moment' but there was still a game to complete and that wasn't going to get in the way of a pose. He then 'disappeared' and his country paid the price.
Let's not forget the 10 others playing alongside him. No right to celebrate whuda thunkit.

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Re: " The Athletic " ... problems in French Euro Squad !

Post by Foshiznik » Fri Jul 09, 2021 7:44 pm

Not helped by a spineless, joke of a manager in charge though.

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