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Re: Training ground guru says Darren Bentley gone

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2021 7:36 pm
by bodge
Bad news for Darren, Pete Oliver's very good though, so hope he's retained.

Re: Training ground guru says Darren Bentley gone

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2021 7:39 pm
by boatshed bill
Andingle wrote:
Mon Aug 02, 2021 7:26 pm
Evening Phil
Not me.

I love his excited commentaries :D

Re: Training ground guru says Darren Bentley gone

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2021 7:41 pm
by BurnleyFC
Bin Ont Turf wrote:
Mon Aug 02, 2021 7:34 pm
If he's been potted because of his Blackburn accent, then it's totally understandable.
:lol:

Re: Mike Rigg

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:05 pm
by NewClaret
ALK making their moves.

The Rigg one surprises me somewhat. He has a very strong CV. I’d be shocked if we could find much better willing to come here, given how little recruitment we actually do!

What I’d like to know now is the calibre of the replacements. There’s a lot of roles going at the club at the moment!

Re: Mike Rigg

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:10 pm
by claptrappers_union
Daz is a top, top bloke.

I worked with him since 2007 and has been brilliant. It frustrated me when I used to read the criticism of him on the messageboard because those posters don’t know how good he was at his job. Went above and beyond every time.

I wish him the best

Re: Mike Rigg

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:10 pm
by jrgbfc
Who's going to be the scapegoat at the end of August then if we end up empty handed again?

Re: Mike Rigg

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:13 pm
by NewClaret
jrgbfc wrote:
Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:10 pm
Who's going to be the scapegoat at the end of August then if we end up empty handed again?
Pace

Re: Mike Rigg

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:30 pm
by DCWat
Media manager wanted - circa £16,000?

Re: Mike Rigg

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:35 pm
by BurnleyFC
DCWat wrote:
Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:30 pm
Media manager wanted - circa £16,000?
Probably.

Seems ridiculous because I’ve wouldn’t have imagined that Darren Bentley would’ve been on a massive wage.

Re: Mike Rigg

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:35 pm
by deanothedino
DCWat wrote:
Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:30 pm
Media manager wanted - circa £16,000?
Offshore it to some PR firm probably

Re: Mike Rigg

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:42 pm
by KateR
I thought when you were on Gardening Leave, you were still officially part of the organization and got paid but actually you didn't go into work or actually do any work on behalf of your employer but you still got paid. The title stays with you until your last day on gardening leave as I understand it.

Had a neighbor put on gardening leave twice in 5 years, he actually only worked 2 years in the 5 but got paid for all 5 years, first time he also could not take a job or his payment stopped, second time he was allowed to take another job and still retain his gardening leave salary up to the end, quite bizarre really.

Re: Mike Rigg

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:43 pm
by Chester Perry
At least one of the ALK guys has a directorship in a Media company

Re: Mike Rigg

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:49 pm
by deanothedino
KateR wrote:
Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:42 pm
I thought when you were on Gardening Leave, you were still officially part of the organization and got paid but actually you didn't go into work or actually do any work on behalf of your employer but you still got paid. The title stays with you until your last day on gardening leave as I understand it.

Had a neighbor put on gardening leave twice in 5 years, he actually only worked 2 years in the 5 but got paid for all 5 years, first time he also could not take a job or his payment stopped, second time he was allowed to take another job and still retain his gardening leave salary up to the end, quite bizarre really.
Rigg was gardening leave, hasn’t been working for a while.

Re: Mike Rigg

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:50 pm
by KateR
Paul Jenkins advising ALK, next position for him, will be interesting to see, Rigg's replacement or in the coaching staff perhaps if he impresses.

Re: Mike Rigg

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2021 9:27 pm
by ClaretTony
KateR wrote:
Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:50 pm
Paul Jenkins advising ALK, next position for him, will be interesting to see, Rigg's replacement or in the coaching staff perhaps if he impresses.
Jenkins has been around for a while and I’d expect him to take on one of these roles.

Re: Mike Rigg

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2021 9:29 pm
by Local cricketer
ClaretTony wrote:
Mon Aug 02, 2021 9:27 pm
Jenkins has been around for a while and I’d expect him to take on one of these roles.
Media manager?

Re: Mike Rigg

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2021 9:30 pm
by ŽižkovClaret
ClaretTony wrote:
Mon Aug 02, 2021 9:27 pm
Jenkins has been around for a while and I’d expect him to take on one of these roles.
Aye, overall overseeing of the Academy would make sense, certainly goes some way to explain Jon Peppers' departure if and when such a role is to be confirmed.

Re: Mike Rigg

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2021 9:30 pm
by ŽižkovClaret
Local cricketer wrote:
Mon Aug 02, 2021 9:29 pm
Media manager?
Doubt it. I'd see him more academy related

Re: Mike Rigg

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2021 9:35 pm
by KateR
deanothedino wrote:
Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:49 pm
Rigg was gardening leave, hasn’t been working for a while.
I understand that quite well, but the question is, has he been paid, continues to be paid up, right up until he actually stops gardening leave and is completely severed from the club. The two typically go hand in hand.

Re: Mike Rigg

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2021 9:38 pm
by ŽižkovClaret
Not wasting any time recycling their laptops, i see ;)

https://twitter.com/RecycleIT_Now/statu ... 5059302402

Re: Training ground guru says Darren Bentley gone

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2021 10:07 pm
by NRC
bodge wrote:
Mon Aug 02, 2021 7:36 pm
Bad news for Darren, Pete Oliver's very good though, so hope he's retained.
Beg to differ, Bodge…. His interviewer style is extremely wooden and as flawed as it gets. He asks questions like they’re dissertations. They require the interviewee to be kind in providing an answer as many of them are closed statements.

I suspect the issue with DB is that he hasn’t proved an adeptness, nor adaptation of modern-day media. In my own job I specifically work with a supplier to provide me with video content specifically consumable on Snapchat, Instagram and LinkedIn in particular while the core, fuller content goes to YouTube. Perhaps Darren didn’t display such adroitness :shock:

Sad, I like the bloke

Re: Mike Rigg

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2021 10:10 pm
by burnmark
I wish people would stop jumping to conclusions in that Darren Bentley has been ‘potted’. It may well be a personal choice to leave or another opportunity elsewhere similar to Mowbray’s brother leaving.

Re: Mike Rigg

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2021 10:12 pm
by Rileybobs
burnmark wrote:
Mon Aug 02, 2021 10:10 pm
I wish people would stop jumping to conclusions in that Darren Bentley has been ‘potted’. It may well be a personal choice to leave or another opportunity elsewhere similar to Mowbray’s brother leaving.
But why won’t they tell us? WHY?

Re: Training ground guru says Darren Bentley gone

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2021 10:13 pm
by Murger
NRC wrote:
Mon Aug 02, 2021 10:07 pm
Beg to differ, Bodge…. His interviewer style is extremely wooden and as flawed as it gets. He asks questions like they’re dissertations. They require the interviewee to be kind in providing an answer as many of them are closed statements.

I suspect the issue with DB is that he hasn’t proved an adeptness, nor adaptation of modern-day media. In my own job I specifically work with a supplier to provide me with video content specifically consumable on Snapchat, Instagram and LinkedIn in particular while the core, fuller content goes to YouTube. Perhaps Darren didn’t display such adroitness :shock:

Sad, I like the bloke
Agreed on Oliver. His interview style is so monotonous, it makes it unbearable to listen too.

Re: Mike Rigg

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2021 10:21 pm
by NewClaret
Personally think we should refrain from critiquing Darren Bentley’s performance on this thread.

When all’s said and done he’s a local family man and fellow Claret who has just lost his job. He probably reads these boards and won’t want to read a load of ****e about his performance from people that don’t know him.

FWIW, I don’t know him, but I have a friend who is a freelance sports journalist who told me he’s a top bloke and that of of all the grounds he’s visited across the country, he was the most organised & understood the post-match needs of journalists the best. I’m sure that’ll mean much more to him than any of our half-baked thoughts.

Darren Bentley gone....?

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2021 10:25 pm
by Selby Claret
Apologies if I’ve missed this, but Twitter has just burst into clarets life in the last 20 mins suggesting Darren Bentley is leaving the club - nothing from him on his feed though.

Anyone know anything about this....?

Re: Mike Rigg

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2021 10:28 pm
by BurnleyFC
NewClaret wrote:
Mon Aug 02, 2021 10:21 pm
Personally think we should refrain from critiquing Darren Bentley’s performance on this thread.

When all’s said and done he’s a local family man and fellow Claret who has just lost his job. He probably reads these boards and won’t want to read a load of ****e about his performance from people that don’t know him.

FWIW, I don’t know him, but I have a friend who is a freelance sports journalist who told me he’s a top bloke and that of of all the grounds he’s visited across the country, he was the most organised & understood the post-match needs of journalists the best. I’m sure that’ll mean much more to him than any of our half-baked thoughts.
Pete Oliver, like Darren Bentley, is a good bloke and fellow claret as well.

Re: Darren Bentley gone....?

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2021 10:29 pm
by randomclaret2
He's dealing with lots of well wishers on his twitter feed

Re: Mike Rigg

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2021 10:31 pm
by kentonclaret
deanothedino wrote:
Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:49 pm
Rigg was gardening leave, hasn’t been working for a while.
Opportunity missed there I'm sure CT was looking for a landscape gardener :D

Re: Darren Bentley gone....?

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2021 10:32 pm
by claptrappers_union
It’s in Mike Rigg thread

Re: Darren Bentley gone....?

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2021 10:35 pm
by Selby Claret
Fair enough - close thread!

Re: Darren Bentley gone....?

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2021 10:38 pm
by HunterST_BFC
I liked him.

But...
Using personal Twitter sharing club stuff is so wrong,
Even the account name (a band) , ID pic being his kid etcetc.

No very Professional really is it?

Nice bloke, very helpful but... Come on...

His luck has run out with this job.

Re: Darren Bentley gone....?

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2021 10:45 pm
by Grumps
HunterST_BFC wrote:
Mon Aug 02, 2021 10:38 pm
I liked him.

But...
Using personal Twitter sharing club stuff is so wrong,
Even the account name (a band) , ID pic being his kid etcetc.

No very Professional really is it?

Nice bloke, very helpful but... Come on...

His luck has run out with this job.
Look at me iam in Tenerife, my house in trawden is empty

Excellent work from a media professional :lol: :lol:

Re: Mike Rigg

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2021 10:53 pm
by Grumps
BurnleyFC wrote:
Mon Aug 02, 2021 10:28 pm
Pete Oliver, like Darren Bentley, is a good bloke and fellow claret as well.
Good bloke, and a claret, doesn't automatically make you good at what you do in the real world, only on here

Re: Mike Rigg

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2021 10:54 pm
by CrosspoolClarets
I’m not going to comment on the jobs of those involved, it would be easy to find good and bad things to say about all of them but now is not the time.

What I would say though is that the changes are becoming so numerous it becomes conceivable that Dyche or the players may get the hump. Some of these backroom staff will be very close to some of them.

It may backfire on that basis.

Re: Darren Bentley gone....?

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2021 10:57 pm
by Rodleydave
Tenerife is off limits at the mo isn't it...covid n stuff

Re: Darren Bentley gone....?

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2021 10:59 pm
by LlandennyClaret
Grumps wrote:
Mon Aug 02, 2021 10:45 pm
Look at me iam in Tenerife, my house in trawden is empty

Excellent work from a media professional :lol: :lol:
He posted after he returned. Do you get some sort of enjoyment from someone losing their job Grumps? Sad if you do.

Re: Mike Rigg

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2021 11:00 pm
by martin_p
randomclaret2 wrote:
Mon Aug 02, 2021 3:41 pm
Why compare your support of Burnley Football Club with what goes on in a branch of Tesco ? Would you be as interested in the manager there being removed as Sean Dyche being sacked ?
My worry is that if the replacement of ‘fan employees’ continues the club will see us more and more like Tesco sees it’s customers.

Re: Darren Bentley gone....?

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2021 11:02 pm
by Local cricketer
Just had a look at Twitter! Full of his groupies blowing smoke up him

Re: Mike Rigg

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2021 11:03 pm
by Newcastleclaret93
I see our community club is getting rid of another. Feel sorry for Bentley I thought he was a top bloke

Re: Darren Bentley gone....?

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2021 11:04 pm
by Grumps
LlandennyClaret wrote:
Mon Aug 02, 2021 10:59 pm
He posted after he returned. Do you get some sort of enjoyment from someone losing their job Grumps? Sad if you do.
I'd check his twitter account over the years before having a pop if I was you.
No joy at all, just giving an example how he's perhaps not as media savvy as he should be

Re: Darren Bentley gone....?

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2021 11:04 pm
by longsidetrumpet
Darren’s on Twitterrrr isn’t he? :o

Re: Mike Rigg

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2021 11:05 pm
by NewClaret
CrosspoolClarets wrote:
Mon Aug 02, 2021 10:54 pm
I’m not going to comment on the jobs of those involved, it would be easy to find good and bad things to say about all of them but now is not the time.

What I would say though is that the changes are becoming so numerous it becomes conceivable that Dyche or the players may get the hump. Some of these backroom staff will be very close to some of them.

It may backfire on that basis.
I’d be pretty sure Dyche was consulted on, or at least aware of, major decisions like these.

There are now major roles as CEO, Academy Director, Technical/Recruitment Director and Media Manager to fill going in to the season.

For some reason I have real confidence in Alan Pace to get these filled, the manager signed and the recruitment done that we need… but it’s looking a big ask at the moment. Need to start some good news flow over the next few weeks heading in to the season…

Re: Mike Rigg

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2021 11:06 pm
by ksrclaret
Well Alan Pace has clearly got the hang of removing employees, if not bringing them in just yet.

Re: Mike Rigg

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2021 11:17 pm
by ClaretTony
BurnleyFC wrote:
Mon Aug 02, 2021 10:28 pm
Pete Oliver, like Darren Bentley, is a good bloke and fellow claret as well.
He’s not a fellow Claret. Pete Oliver is a Newcastle fan.

Re: Mike Rigg

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 12:25 am
by Swizzlestick
DB certainly improved in his role (his early days on Twitter were a perfect example of how not to be a media manager - lost track of the amount of petty arguments he became embroiled in) but, while he's clearly a nice guy, never quite came across as having the professionalism needed for such a role at a PL club.

Re: Mike Rigg

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 12:42 am
by Bin Ont Turf
ClaretTony wrote:
Mon Aug 02, 2021 11:17 pm
He’s not a fellow Claret. Pete Oliver is a Newcastle fan.
And absolutely annoying going mmm, mm, mmm every 2 f***ing seconds when someone is answering his "questions".

Awful interviewer.

Re: Mike Rigg

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 3:11 am
by Oshkoshclaret
Darren was nothing other than exemplary in all my dealings with him, and I wish him all the best for the future. It worries me that he's leaving. New owners will always bring change, but I thought he'd make it because he was one of the rare examples at the club of a staff member that was relatable and had a genuine customer service orientation.

Re: Darren Bentley gone....?

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 5:39 am
by deanothedino
Grumps wrote:
Mon Aug 02, 2021 10:45 pm
Look at me iam in Tenerife, my house in trawden is empty

Excellent work from a media professional :lol: :lol:
He didn’t tweet that until he was back in Trawden?

Don’t apply for a job in military intelligence, you wouldn’t be very good at it.

Re: Darren Bentley gone....?

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 6:28 am
by Grumps
deanothedino wrote:
Tue Aug 03, 2021 5:39 am
He didn’t tweet that until he was back in Trawden?

Don’t apply for a job in military intelligence, you wouldn’t be very good at it.
Like I said above, check his previous holiday tweets, don't just jump on the last one.