PeterWilton wrote: ↑Sun Jul 11, 2021 10:20 am
It's like everything. The loudest ones are the biggest dickheads. It's difficult for those who don't hate to express that loudly, but it's very easy for people with hatred to reach full volume.
Don't change your opinion just because the loudest voices drown out the rest. Hate is louder than banter. So don't be surprised when the banterous go unheard sometimes.
and that works on all sides - this is on all sides - the Danish experience at Wembley this week has changed a lot of attitude in Denmark towards us - and it was utterly shameful, "fans" (sic) behaving worse than animals just underling the attitude of most countries to ours when it comes to football - this is translated from the Danish
Danish fans hit by insults and saliva at the European Championship semi-finals: 'I will never go to an English football match again'
Both children and adults in the group of Danish fans experienced being harassed for the semi-final match.
Danish spectators during the semi-final between England and Denmark at Wembley yesterday. (Photo: liselotte sabroe © Ritzau Scanpix)
Julie Astrid Thomsen
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Most Danes who watched yesterday's European Championship semi-final are probably a little disappointed that we did not advance to the final.
But for some of the Danish fans who experienced the match at Wembley, it was not only the defeat that put a damper on the mood.
In opslag, som DR News has seen, in Facebook groups for Danes in the UK, several tell how English fans shouted insults at them or their children, while others were spit on, beaten or had bottles thrown at them.
Alessandra Helstrup Nørreriis, who has lived in Manchester for six years, was at Wembley to watch the match yesterday.
She is studying for a master's degree in physiotherapy and works with youth players in professional football, so the world of football is not new to her. Still, she was shocked by the experience yesterday.
I have never experienced that they have gone after me as an individual, as they did yesterday.
ALESSANDRA HELSTRUP NØRRERIIS
- I have been to a lot of football matches, and I am just fine with groups singing beats . They do that a lot in England, and it's not necessarily the living rooms or nice texts. But I have never experienced that people have followed me as an individual, as they did yesterday, she saysDR News.
She noticed a number of English fans with both English football shirts and flags in the Danish section, where she saw one of them try to start a fight.
On the way from the taxi to stadium shouted six to seven male English fans of her.
- They kept shouting "**** off to where you came from" and saw some words that might not be quite the living rooms.
- My Northern Irish-English boyfriend had hoped that England won. But the treatment I received from the English fans has made him hope that Italy wins by a large margin. He is simply completely repulsed, says Alessandra Helstrup Nørreriis.
Ronnie Hansen, commercial director of Dansk Boldspil-Union (DBU ), noticed the English jerseys and flags in the Danish section, but emphasizes that it wasUefa and Wembley's responsibility to keep track of it.
He also says that he is sad about the Danish spectators' experiences for the match.
- There is a very different fan culture and the atmosphere at Wembley yesterday was very intense. I have been to an incredible number of football matches, but this was one of the most intense I have experienced, he says.
Children were spit on
Sigrun Matthiesen Campbell, who lives in London , was inside watching the semi-final match with her English husband and three children aged 14, 11 and 9 years.
- My daughters aged 14 and 11 did not dare take off their jerseys and show off their Danish football jerseys and hats because they were intimidated by the English fans. We were spit on when we walked instadium , and people shouted insults, she tellsDR .
Her daughters did not end up taking off their jerseys at all, but her nine-year-old son kept both the national team jersey and hat on and was yelled at after the match.
- I hope this is reported because the English fans get away with too much. Most Danes were happy to join at the last minute, and many were families.
Birgitte Lydum has shared bad experiences from the match in a Facebook group for Danes living in London . She says toDR that her experience was not as bad as several others' and that she will try to remember the good.
- I will not let their behavior ruin what was a great experience for us, but I will never go to an English football match again. I would not have taken my daughter with me if I knew how they would behave. We were relieved when we got home and were able to lock the door, she says.
She says that she saw a Danish family with two small children running towards the police outside stadium after the match.
- If you have experienced something at such a violent level, then I think you should report it, says Ronnie Hansen.
Few sharp vessels or an integral part of football culture?
At the same time as the stories about the bad experiences, there are many Danish fans who write in the Facebook groups that they have had a good evening and that it was more about a few sharp vessels.
Sigrun Matthiesen Campbell shares the experience that it was certainly not all the English fans who harassed .
- I got a lot of apologies from other English fans, but I'm very disappointed. I have lived in the UK for 23 years and the behavior yesterday was shameful, she says.
- My English friends, who are not hooligans themselves, seem to think that only a few rotten fruits are ruining the English fans' reputation, but that's not true. It was very clear to me yesterday that being aggressive and verbally violent is an integrated and socially acceptednorm for Englishfootball fans , she says.
It is also at Wembley, the final between Italy and England to be played.
And several Danish fans write that they hope that the Italian fans will be treated better.
- It was a very scary experience and I really think that if England can not control their hooligans, they should not be allowed to host. I am sincerely afraid on behalf of the Italians, who are in the same situation as us, says Sigrun Matthiesen Campbell.
Uefa opens three cases against England
It is not only from the Danish side that the English fans get criticism.
European Football Association (Uefa )has today opened three cases against England, which are charged with the use of a laser pen, the English fans' booing during the Danish national anthem and the use of pyrotechnics.
The use of the laser pen affected, among other things, Denmark's goalkeeper Kasper Schmeichel in connection with England's penalty kick in the extended playing time of the European Championship semi-final on Wednesday.
According to the Danish defender Jannik Vestergaard, the laser light was also present earlier in the match, and Pierre-Emile Højbjerg had made the referee aware of it.
- It was already there in the first half. There were several things that were notfair from the spectators, but when there is a lot at stake, all means are clearly permissible.