Capacity V Brighton

TonbridgeClaret · Post by **TonbridgeClaret** » Fri Jul 16, 2021 6:20 pm

Apologies if this has been covered elsewhere, but is there any news yet on how many supporters will be allowed into Turf Moor for our opening game of the season against Brighton?

My wife and I live in Kent and only manage 2 or 3 home games in a season... we're hoping to attend this one.

Thanks in advance.

Chester Perry · Post by **Chester Perry** » Fri Jul 16, 2021 6:23 pm

this thread might not last too long

Dark Cloud · Post by **Dark Cloud** » Fri Jul 16, 2021 6:27 pm

How are you at forcing your way past primary school age stewards, jumping ticket barriers and running fast up steps?? Any good?? You'll be fine. Watch You Tube to get tips on how it's done!!!

Leisure · Post by **Leisure** » Fri Jul 16, 2021 6:29 pm

We were told on Monday evening that there should be no restrictions on numbers but we still need to see official confirmation of this. However, I guess that the more the cases go up day by day the more doubtful that could be.

TonbridgeClaret · Post by **TonbridgeClaret** » Fri Jul 16, 2021 6:31 pm

Leisure wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 16, 2021 6:29 pm
We were told on Monday evening that there should be no restrictions on numbers but we still need to see official confirmation of this. However, I guess that the more the cases go up day by day the more doubtful that could be.

Thanks, Pete.

ksrclaret · Post by **ksrclaret** » Fri Jul 16, 2021 6:32 pm

Chester Perry wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 16, 2021 6:23 pm
this thread might not last too long

Why might that be?

Boss Hogg · Post by **Boss Hogg** » Fri Jul 16, 2021 6:36 pm

Might be useful to know if phase 2 fans can attend with less than a month to go.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Fri Jul 16, 2021 6:46 pm

Leisure wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 16, 2021 6:29 pm
We were told on Monday evening that there should be no restrictions on numbers but we still need to see official confirmation of this. However, I guess that the more the cases go up day by day the more doubtful that could be.

May potentially need Covid Passports:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sport ... tches.html

Garnerssoap · Post by **Garnerssoap** » Sat Jul 17, 2021 12:16 am

Spijed wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 16, 2021 6:46 pm
May potentially need Covid Passports:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sport ... tches.html

Spare season ticket going here

Buxtonclaret · Post by **Buxtonclaret** » Sat Jul 17, 2021 8:07 am

ksrclaret wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 16, 2021 6:32 pm
Why might that be?

Thinking that myself.
Reasonable question from an exiled Claret.

Leisure · Post by **Leisure** » Sat Jul 17, 2021 8:46 am

Boss Hogg wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 16, 2021 6:36 pm
Might be useful to know if phase 2 fans can attend with less than a month to go.

Probably some news from the Club early next week.

jrgbfc · Post by **jrgbfc** » Sat Jul 17, 2021 9:47 am

The hold up is probably due to the Premier League deciding on entry conditions, whether or not to use covid passports etc.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Sat Jul 17, 2021 10:17 am

jrgbfc wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 17, 2021 9:47 am
The hold up is probably due to the Premier League deciding on entry conditions, whether or not to use covid passports etc.

And for those who don't want to use an app. You can get a letter here:
https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/coronavir ... ss-letter/

You'll need your NHS number.

Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Sat Jul 17, 2021 10:27 am

Garnerssoap wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 17, 2021 12:16 am
Spare season ticket going here

Nice one mate, would you mind sanitising your hands and the card before you post it please?

Jakubs Tash · Post by **Jakubs Tash** » Sat Jul 17, 2021 10:45 am

Next week will be quite telling. Obviously Monday 19th being the day all restrictions are lifted and some T20 cricket matches which can no longer be classed as ‘test events’.

All the noise suggests there’s no reason why capacity will not be 100% though.

lakedistrictclaret · Post by **lakedistrictclaret** » Sat Jul 17, 2021 10:51 am

Spijed wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 17, 2021 10:17 am
And for those who don't want to use an app. You can get a letter here:
https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/coronavir ... ss-letter/

You'll need your NHS number.

Thanks, Spijed, that's very helpful.

I've applied for my letter.

JohnMac · Post by **JohnMac** » Sat Jul 17, 2021 6:23 pm

I was really looking forward to the opening game until my wife informed me we will be at her Sisters 60th birthday barbeque that day

gawthorpe_view · Post by **gawthorpe_view** » Sat Jul 17, 2021 6:28 pm

JohnMac wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 17, 2021 6:23 pm
I was really looking forward to the opening game until my wife informed me we will be at her Sisters 60th birthday barbeque that day

Throw a sickie!

bfcmik · Post by **bfcmik** » Sat Jul 17, 2021 7:17 pm

Jakubs Tash wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 17, 2021 10:45 am
Next week will be quite telling. Obviously Monday 19th being the day all restrictions are lifted and some T20 cricket matches which can no longer be classed as ‘test events’.

All the noise suggests there’s no reason why capacity will not be 100% though.

Decision on capacity will be made by Premier League and then by the ground safety manager, Police and LCC as they are the bodies that issue our safety certificate

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Sat Jul 17, 2021 7:22 pm

lakedistrictclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 17, 2021 10:51 am
Thanks, Spijed, that's very helpful.

I've applied for my letter.

Arrived in the post today as well.

I'll probably load the app as well

Boss Hogg · Post by **Boss Hogg** » Sat Jul 17, 2021 8:16 pm

How long are the letters or app confirmation valid for ? I thought it was 28 days but could be wrong. Needs to be some sort of testing or proof outside the ground though.

martin_p · Post by **martin_p** » Sat Jul 17, 2021 8:23 pm

Boss Hogg wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 17, 2021 8:16 pm
How long are the letters or app confirmation valid for ? I thought it was 28 days but could be wrong. Needs to be some sort of testing or proof outside the ground though.

If you download a pdf from the app it’s valid for 30 days so I’m assuming it’s the same for the letter.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Sat Jul 17, 2021 8:31 pm

martin_p wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 17, 2021 8:23 pm
If you download a pdf from the app it’s valid for 30 days so I’m assuming it’s the same for the letter.

According to the website:
https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/coronavir ... ovid-pass/

"It is also known as a COVID-19 post vaccination letter. The paper version does not have an expiry date."

JohnMac · Post by **JohnMac** » Sun Jul 18, 2021 10:53 am

gawthorpe_view wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 17, 2021 6:28 pm
Throw a sickie!

If only mate

I have to drive her down to Lincolnshire.

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Sun Jul 18, 2021 11:02 am

I was talking to a Liverpool fan yesterday who seemed to think the Premier league wanted the first 3 rows all around the ground remaining empty. He didn't say where he heard it from but both Liverpool and Everton have just been tested and given the go ahead for near capacity from the council.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Sun Jul 18, 2021 9:58 pm

Will be full capacity. If there are any restrictions on home crowds I will be looking to get a refund on my ticket as can’t be arsed going on with half crowds.

fidelcastro · Post by **fidelcastro** » Sun Jul 18, 2021 11:54 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑
Sun Jul 18, 2021 11:02 am
I was talking to a Liverpool fan yesterday who seemed to think the Premier league wanted the first 3 rows all around the ground remaining empty.

Yup. That'll stop the spread!

jedi_master · Post by **jedi_master** » Mon Jul 19, 2021 8:10 am

I’m struggling to see why it would not be full capacity based upon the guidelines in place (whether you agree with them or not).

Every chance a passport system is in place for the foreseeable though as I think will be the case at any large scale ticketed event (indoor or outdoor) for quite a while (or at least till the cases have subsided, assuming they do, to a manageable long term level).

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Mon Jul 19, 2021 8:13 am

Would the passport system prevent the age group of 18-30 getting to matches at the start of the season due to them not having time to complete their full vaccination? Or does the passport system include being allowed to prove a negative test?

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Mon Jul 19, 2021 8:43 am

RVclaret wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 19, 2021 8:13 am
Would the passport system prevent the age group of 18-30 getting to matches at the start of the season due to them not having time to complete their full vaccination? Or does the passport system include being allowed to prove a negative test?

Negative test result at Wembley. Although the crowd to get in rendered that process redundant.

martin_p · Post by **martin_p** » Mon Jul 19, 2021 8:50 am

cricketfieldclarets wrote: ↑
Sun Jul 18, 2021 9:58 pm
Will be full capacity. If there are any restrictions on home crowds I will be looking to get a refund on my ticket as can’t be arsed going on with half crowds.

Good luck with that!

martin_p · Post by **martin_p** » Mon Jul 19, 2021 9:17 am

The club are asking that people continue to wear masks in the club shop (on official site 20 mins ago).

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Mon Jul 19, 2021 9:22 am

martin_p wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 19, 2021 8:50 am
Good luck with that!

Thanks. Hopefully won’t need it. Should be fine

ksrclaret · Post by **ksrclaret** » Mon Jul 19, 2021 9:33 am

cricketfieldclarets wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 19, 2021 9:22 am
Thanks. Hopefully won’t need it. Should be fine

Looking like it will be. First game of the season will be a cracking day out and atmosphere and long may it continue.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Mon Jul 19, 2021 9:36 am

ksrclaret wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 19, 2021 9:33 am
Looking like it will be. First game of the season will be a cracking day out and atmosphere and long may it continue.

Absolutely.

martin_p · Post by **martin_p** » Mon Jul 19, 2021 9:37 am

I’m pretty sure it will be full capacity, but I also think it likely there’ll be conditions attached to that.

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Mon Jul 19, 2021 10:05 am

fidelcastro wrote: ↑
Sun Jul 18, 2021 11:54 pm
Yup. That'll stop the spread!

Can only think they don't want any fans touching players.

Rowls · Post by **Rowls** » Mon Jul 19, 2021 10:21 am

Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 19, 2021 10:05 am
Can only think they don't want any fans touching players.

Imagine it's a more cycnical ploy to do with their advertizing hoardings similar to what EUFA imposed many years before covid.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Mon Jul 19, 2021 10:32 am

Update from club:
https://www.burnleyfootballclub.com/con ... mujVR9aneE

Darthlaw · Post by **Darthlaw** » Mon Jul 19, 2021 10:34 am

I’m heading to the T20 at Old Trafford tomorrow, with a full ground, yet still no news on how many folk can go to a game 4 weeks away.

Club needs to put out some sort of communication today, regards season tickets and phase 2, even if it’s a holding statement.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Mon Jul 19, 2021 10:41 am

This link suggests the new disabled stands are expected to be at full capacity.
https://www.burnleyfootballclub.com/con ... d-for-fans

martin_p · Post by **martin_p** » Mon Jul 19, 2021 10:43 am

Darthlaw wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 19, 2021 10:34 am
I’m heading to the T20 at Old Trafford tomorrow, with a full ground, yet still no news on how many folk can go to a game 4 weeks away.

Club needs to put out some sort of communication today, regards season tickets and phase 2, even if it’s a holding statement.

How many other clubs have put out definitive statements yet as a matter of interest (and I genuinely don’t know the answer)?

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Mon Jul 19, 2021 10:47 am

Spijed wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 19, 2021 10:32 am
Update from club:
https://www.burnleyfootballclub.com/con ... mujVR9aneE

Nothing about season ticket sales. Coming later today perhaps?

Darthlaw · Post by **Darthlaw** » Mon Jul 19, 2021 11:26 am

martin_p wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 19, 2021 10:43 am
How many other clubs have put out definitive statements yet as a matter of interest (and I genuinely don’t know the answer)?

Not sure how a holding statement is definitive but hey ho.

I don’t know your answer to the question.

martin_p · Post by **martin_p** » Mon Jul 19, 2021 5:07 pm

Interesting statement from the vaccine minister in the last half hour.

‘ Zahawi has announced that people will be required to be fully vaccinated to attend "large crowded settings" such as nightclubs from the end of September - after all over-18s have had the chance to receive both vaccine doses and develop immunity.

"So at that point we plan to make full vaccination a condition of entry to nightclubs and other venues where large crowds gather, proof of a negative test will no longer be sufficient," he said.

"We will ensure the appropriate exemptions for those who have genuine medical reasons of why they can't get vaccinated and I'm clear we will always look at the evidence available and do all we can to ensure people can continue to do the things they love."

Wonder if ‘venues where large crowds gather’ will include sports stadia?

Loyalclaret · Post by **Loyalclaret** » Mon Jul 19, 2021 5:15 pm

Just about to post the same link - football grounds to follow you'd imagine?

martin_p · Post by **martin_p** » Mon Jul 19, 2021 5:18 pm

Loyalclaret wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 19, 2021 5:15 pm
Just about to post the same link - football grounds to follow you'd imagine?

It’d be illogical if they didn’t given, even though the seats are in the open air, the concourses are crowded and enclosed. Of course it being illogical has been no guide to government policy so best to await clarification.

Rombald · Post by **Rombald** » Mon Jul 19, 2021 5:21 pm

It would be interesting to see how they make this work for everyone and especially for under 18’s.... would they be allowed/need a test?

martin_p · Post by **martin_p** » Mon Jul 19, 2021 5:23 pm

Rombald wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 19, 2021 5:21 pm
It would be interesting to see how they make this work for everyone and especially for under 18’s.... would they be allowed/need a test?

No. That’s why they’re saying the end of September, time for anyone who hasn’t been vaccinated to have both.

clarethomer · Post by **clarethomer** » Mon Jul 19, 2021 5:26 pm

Loyalclaret wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 19, 2021 5:15 pm
Just about to post the same link - football grounds to follow you'd imagine?

Without doubt as the guidance appears to be nightclubs and crowded venues.

I assume a football stadium to be a crowded venue unless they have separate guidance for arenas and sporting events etc