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Arsenal......you couldnt write it!!!!

Post by Srg1882 » Thu Jul 22, 2021 7:25 am

So they sell gk martinez for 20 million last sumner. He goes to villa, has a top season finishing by winning copa america with argentina. Now they are going to pay 32 million to sheff utd for aaron ramsdale. Ha ga ha unbelievable

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Post by the_fat_shearer » Thu Jul 22, 2021 7:30 am

I rate Martinez much higher than Ramsdale.

I think that Arsenal were quite intelligent/responsible in their strategy of putting money into a stadium to get a higher regular income etc. and have shot themselves in the foot by a number of expensive poor signings in the last 10 years
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Post by Srg1882 » Thu Jul 22, 2021 7:33 am

Martinez is on a different level to ramsdale

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Post by Steve1956 » Thu Jul 22, 2021 7:49 am

Srg1882 wrote:
Thu Jul 22, 2021 7:25 am
So they sell gk martinez for 20 million last sumner. He goes to villa, has a top season finishing by winning copa america with argentina. Now they are going to pay 32 million to sheff utd for aaron ramsdale. Ha ga ha unbelievable
Wow that really is a strange one,Martinez is a top drawer Premier league goalkeeper,Ramsdale is a championship keeper at best,32 Million?....Christ! How much is Pope worth?
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Post by Rileybobs » Thu Jul 22, 2021 7:54 am

That is absolutely crazy money. Ramsdale looks like a really poor goalkeeper with the presence of a goldfish.
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Post by Srg1882 » Thu Jul 22, 2021 7:57 am

I know . Thats just what I thought. Championship at best. Its been reported in todays times. And yes it really does make you wonder Popes worth

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Post by Steve1956 » Thu Jul 22, 2021 8:09 am

Rileybobs wrote:
Thu Jul 22, 2021 7:54 am
That is absolutely crazy money. Ramsdale looks like a really poor goalkeeper with the presence of a goldfish.
Would be absolute crazy money yea,specially if he's just a backup keeper....presence of a goldfish...that's brilliant😆

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Post by BenWickes » Thu Jul 22, 2021 8:18 am

Just goes to show. A player is worth what a selling club is prepared to sell for or what a buying club is prepared to pay.

That said. I am sure there are better keepers out there for £30 million than Ramsdale.

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Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Thu Jul 22, 2021 8:20 am

Have they agreed to pay 32m or been told that is the fee Sheff Utd want ?

Huge difference between the 2
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Post by leightonjameslegend » Thu Jul 22, 2021 8:28 am

Wow! Madness. Also has 3 relegations on his CV and he is only 23. Chesterfield (on loan), Bournemouth and Sheff Utd.

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Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Thu Jul 22, 2021 9:01 am

That's Arsenal a good bet for relegation then if Ramsdale becomes their first choice :lol:

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Post by ClaretTony » Thu Jul 22, 2021 9:03 am

Ramsdale had a tough time at Sheffield United initially but turned things round and won their player of the year (albeit in a relegation season),

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Post by minnieclaret » Thu Jul 22, 2021 9:10 am

Martinez came in late season for Arsenal and was outstanding. Must have had the conversation with Arteta and was told Leno is number 1. Don’t know how is contract stood but £20m might have been a good deal then.
Is Leno still number 1? That’s a silly amount of money to pay for a back up.
As I’ve said many times all these young keepers have phenomenal reflexes and make amazing saves but many can’t organise their defence and make poor decisions. Ramsdale is one of these.

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Post by leightonjameslegend » Thu Jul 22, 2021 9:15 am

He is nowhere near a keeper of that value. Martinez absolutely shone at Villa and is an organiser. Pope is in a different league. When he didn't play our 2 backups were similar in not coming off the line for crosses, lack of communication and organisation. Pope is top drawer at this as was Heaton, both never stop talking.

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Post by warksclaret » Thu Jul 22, 2021 9:29 am

WOW-thats some fee. If this goes through it could set a new bar similar to when Ross McCormack (a fairly ordinary striker) setting a new high for a Championship player when he joined Fulham. Ramsdale is a very brave young keeper-not a bad shot stopper, but no where near good enough for the England squad. I rate Sam Johnstone of WBA higher. Makes the Hennessy business look very shrewd

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Post by tim_noone » Thu Jul 22, 2021 9:29 am

leightonjameslegend wrote:
Thu Jul 22, 2021 8:28 am
Wow! Madness. Also has 3 relegations on his CV and he is only 23. Chesterfield (on loan), Bournemouth and Sheff Utd.
Goalkeepers with poor teams are often the ones who get recognised pulling off some fantastic saves and being MOM. Playing for a Top team or any team requires something more than shot stopping though.But that's the first thing most of us spot.

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Post by Woodleyclaret » Thu Jul 22, 2021 9:35 am

Pickford is a classic example of a keeper who makes great saves
Shite with crosses and couldn't organise a bus queue

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Post by tiger76 » Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:22 am

warksclaret wrote:
Thu Jul 22, 2021 9:29 am
WOW-thats some fee. If this goes through it could set a new bar similar to when Ross McCormack (a fairly ordinary striker) setting a new high for a Championship player when he joined Fulham. Ramsdale is a very brave young keeper-not a bad shot stopper, but no where near good enough for the England squad. I rate Sam Johnstone of WBA higher. Makes the Hennessy business look very shrewd
Arsenal must have money to burn if they're paying £30m+ for Ramsdale, I'd agree SJ looks the better prospect for me.

What's AR like with his feet if he's going to The Emirates surely that'll be a prerequisite given that Arsenal insist on playing out from the back.

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Post by aggi » Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:28 am

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Thu Jul 22, 2021 8:20 am
Have they agreed to pay 32m or been told that is the fee Sheff Utd want ?

Huge difference between the 2
According to the press Sheff Utd want £32m ...

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Post by Bosscat » Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:39 am

Rileybobs wrote:
Thu Jul 22, 2021 7:54 am
That is absolutely crazy money. Ramsdale looks like a really poor goalkeeper with the presence of a goldfish.
Have not seen "Billy the Fish" goalkeeper for Fullchester Rovers

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Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:40 am

aggi wrote:
Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:28 am
According to the press Sheff Utd want £32m ...
Surely then it is Sheff Utd who deserve mocking, until someone actually pays that fee

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Post by Clarets4me » Thu Jul 22, 2021 12:05 pm

tim_noone wrote:
Thu Jul 22, 2021 9:29 am
Goalkeepers with poor teams are often the ones who get recognised pulling off some fantastic saves and being MOM. Playing for a Top team or any team requires something more than shot stopping though.But that's the first thing most of us spot.
Worked out for Tom Heaton, after Bristol City got relegated to League 1 though ! :roll:

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Post by tim_noone » Thu Jul 22, 2021 7:47 pm

Clarets4me wrote:
Thu Jul 22, 2021 12:05 pm
Worked out for Tom Heaton, after Bristol City got relegated to League 1 though ! :roll:
Crack on...... there must be another Dozen in your note Book. Our goalkeeping coach spotted more than "Shot stopping " with Tom and Pope......and signing Hennessey could be a very shrewd move.

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Post by Barlickclaret » Thu Jul 22, 2021 9:16 pm

tim_noone wrote:
Thu Jul 22, 2021 7:47 pm
Crack on...... there must be another Dozen in your note Book. Our goalkeeping coach spotted more than "Shot stopping " with Tom and Pope......and signing Hennessey could be a very shrewd move.
Our goalkeeping coach made Tom and Pope into more than shot stoppers, don't think he'd have had any input in there signings, and I'm sure he will make hennessey a better keeper aswell.
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Post by Buxtonclaret » Fri Jul 23, 2021 12:15 pm

Bosscat wrote:
Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:39 am
Have not seen "Billy the Fish" goalkeeper for Fullchester Rovers

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Post by wilks_bfc » Fri Jul 23, 2021 12:35 pm

Barlickclaret wrote:
Thu Jul 22, 2021 9:16 pm
Our goalkeeping coach made Tom and Pope into more than shot stoppers, don't think he'd have had any input in there signings, and I'm sure he will make hennessey a better keeper aswell.
Mercer had a big input in signing Pope

This is from piece in the Athletic

While Tom Heaton was a signing Dyche wanted, when it came to Pope, having watched him almost by accident at York, Mercer worked closely with chief scout Martin Hodge — another former goalkeeper — on monitoring him further. He remained on his radar and when Charlton got relegated from the Championship in 2016 at the same time Burnley were leaving that division as title winners, making a move for a then 24-year-old Pope became a no-brainer.
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Post by tim_noone » Fri Jul 23, 2021 2:40 pm

wilks_bfc wrote:
Fri Jul 23, 2021 12:35 pm
Mercer had a big input in signing Pope

This is from piece in the Athletic

:D

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Post by RalphCoatesComb » Fri Jul 23, 2021 3:50 pm

Srg1882 wrote:
Thu Jul 22, 2021 7:33 am
Martinez is on a different level to ramsdale
But, IMHO, neither as good as Nick Pope, or Tom Heaton (Through my Claret tinted specs ;) )

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Post by RalphCoatesComb » Fri Jul 23, 2021 3:52 pm

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Once had a T-Shirt with that on in my more youthful days! :lol:
I normally have a selection of ketchup, mayo and gravy on mine ;)
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Post by KRBFC » Fri Jul 23, 2021 4:00 pm

Arsenal are a car crash at the minute, owners who refuse to spend and refuse to sell the club, their squad is stacked with players who have been there for years and simply aren't good enough, A rookie manager who looks so far out of his depth, they play boring football too. I wouldn't be surprised to see Arsenal get relegated in the near future, that's how far they've regressed recently.

They won like 5 games in a row last year at the end to paper over the cracks and they stole 8th spot. They're an absolute shambles though, it's incredible how quickly they've fell apart into a midtable side. Wenger used to guarantee top 4. There's quite a few at Arsenal who I wouldn't mind here.

Nelson, Maitland Niles, Willock. Seemingly all available for transfer, young prospects, Arsenal aren't Liverpool, they typically don't drive a hard bargain when selling.
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Post by Bosscat » Fri Jul 23, 2021 4:52 pm

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I normally have a selection of ketchup, mayo and gravy on mine ;)
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Post by Jimmymaccer » Sat Jul 24, 2021 12:22 am

the_fat_shearer wrote:
Thu Jul 22, 2021 7:30 am
I rate Martinez much higher than Ramsdale.

I think that Arsenal were quite intelligent/responsible in their strategy of putting money into a stadium to get a higher regular income etc. and have shot themselves in the foot by a number of expensive poor signings in the last 10 years
And what a lovely stadium it is, loved by all……

Not.

If we built one (like The Reebok)………even that might tip me over the edge and rather push a trolley round Tesco…….

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Post by djemba-djemba » Sat Jul 24, 2021 1:13 am

wilks_bfc wrote:
Fri Jul 23, 2021 12:35 pm
Mercer had a big input in signing Pope

This is from piece in the Athletic

Who is holding their hands up for BPF though?

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Post by Jakubclaret » Sat Jul 24, 2021 1:24 am

ClaretTony wrote:
Thu Jul 22, 2021 9:03 am
Ramsdale had a tough time at Sheffield United initially but turned things round and won their player of the year (albeit in a relegation season),
He wasn’t behind O’Connell as Henderson was when Sheffield had the better season, I’m not suggesting ramsdale better than Henderson but I think they really missed O’Connell last season defensively & with his presence it’s logical to assume they would have conceded less based on O’Connell form the season before, but he’s certainly not worth 30 mil anyhow.

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Post by the_fat_shearer » Sat Jul 24, 2021 2:28 pm

Jimmymaccer wrote:
Sat Jul 24, 2021 12:22 am
And what a lovely stadium it is, loved by all……

Not.

If we built one (like The Reebok)………even that might tip me over the edge and rather push a trolley round Tesco…….
I wasn't saying that I liked the stadium 😂
Just that they had been more sensible financially than some of their rivals but wasted that money with their choice of transfer purchase

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Post by Stockbrokerbelt » Sat Jul 24, 2021 2:44 pm

Arsenal have offered 6 mill, if he’s 32 million pope must be 100 & Norris 30. :D

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Post by IanMcL » Sat Jul 24, 2021 6:13 pm

Woodleyclaret wrote:
Thu Jul 22, 2021 9:35 am
Pickford is a classic example of a keeper who makes great saves
Shite with crosses and couldn't organise a bus queue
Pickford makes 'Great saves' for Pickford. Those same saves would be made routine by Pope and Pope's great saves would be goals if Pickford was keeping.

Size and positioning making the difference.

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Post by Targetman » Sat Jul 24, 2021 8:25 pm

Srg1882 wrote:
Thu Jul 22, 2021 7:25 am
So they sell gk martinez for 20 million last sumner. He goes to villa, has a top season finishing by winning copa america with argentina. Now they are going to pay 32 million to sheff utd for aaron ramsdale. Ha ga ha unbelievable
Did The Times actually say that Arsenal are going to pay £32m for Ramsdale?

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Post by RalphCoatesComb » Sat Jul 24, 2021 11:44 pm

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