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ARTICLE: Benson from Burnley to Barnsley

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 6:41 pm
by ClaretTony

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Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 6:43 pm
by WiscoClaret
Happy for him! Hope he kicks in and we have a decent sell on!

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Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 6:44 pm
by BurnleyFC
Wish the lad well.

He got some really unnecessary pelters on here at times last season.

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Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 6:45 pm
by Quickenthetempo
Good luck Josh.

Based on us turning down 1m for him I'm guessing slightly higher?

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Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 6:45 pm
by ClaretTony
I wish him well too and it's not often a young player gets that sort of deal.

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Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 6:49 pm
by IanMcL
Good luck to the young man. Games at that level is exactly what he needs.

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Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 6:53 pm
by PadihamThickNeck
Next step will be Barnsley to Barnet.

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Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 6:54 pm
by ksrclaret
That's an interesting one. He's hardly played at all for us but Barnsley have obviously seen something in him worth putting a lot of time, effort, money, and faith into.

I hope he's a huge success for them and I do think he's gone to the right club there.

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Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 6:58 pm
by bodge
Hope he beds in well there and that we have a sell on clause which I'm sure we will have.

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Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 6:59 pm
by boatshed bill
Surely now we will be signing a new midfielder.

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Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 6:59 pm
by ClaretTony
bodge wrote:
Thu Jul 29, 2021 6:58 pm
Hope he beds in well there and that we have a sell on clause which I'm sure we will have.
I'm certain this is what we are doing with the likes of Josh plus Ryan Cooney and Jimmy Dunne.

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Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 7:02 pm
by NewClaret
ClaretTony wrote:
Thu Jul 29, 2021 6:59 pm
I'm certain this is what we are doing with the likes of Josh plus Ryan Cooney and Jimmy Dunne.
Did we agree a few for Dunne or is it going to tribunal?

Re: ARTICLE: Benson from Burnley to Barnsley

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 7:05 pm
by warksclaret
Good move for him and lets hope he forges a great career from here

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Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 7:05 pm
by ClaretTony
NewClaret wrote:
Thu Jul 29, 2021 7:02 pm
Did we agree a few for Dunne or is it going to tribunal?
Agreed - obviously undisclosed but you would think it would have included a sizeable sell on clause

Re: ARTICLE: Benson from Burnley to Barnsley

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 7:08 pm
by cricketfieldclarets
Good luck to him. Personally thought he looked like he had a bit of class about him albeit very young and raw.

Shows how far we’ve come when young players we let go are now going to the likes of qpr and Barnsley.

Re: ARTICLE: Benson from Burnley to Barnsley

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 7:09 pm
by randomclaret2
boatshed bill wrote:
Thu Jul 29, 2021 6:59 pm
Surely now we will be signing a new midfielder.
We have 18 senior outfield players , 2 of of whom are recovering from operations.

Re: ARTICLE: Benson from Burnley to Barnsley

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 7:10 pm
by Father Jack
If we can sell 3x young players a season for £3m then I’d expect we’ll be covering the academy running cost. So the model is self sustaining even if we don’t produce prem standard first team players. That’s got to be the plan year in year out.

Re: ARTICLE: Benson from Burnley to Barnsley

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 7:12 pm
by GodIsADeeJay81
Good luck to him.

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Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 7:18 pm
by fidelcastro
Good move for him. It's a real shame that most fees are undisclosed these days, as I'd love to know how much a player who (at present, at least) isn't good enough for the Premier League is worth nowadays.

Re: ARTICLE: Benson from Burnley to Barnsley

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 7:19 pm
by tiger76
Good to see we're now producing players through the academy that Championship clubs are attracted by, and we got decent money, with I guess a fair sell-on clause inserted.

So for Josh's and Burnley's long term good I hope he impresses for the Tykes.

Now we've cleared the decks it's surely time to start recruiting, I'd say we need a minimum of 1 CM, and 1 RW, but as Stephens is still unavailable we may need to consider getting 2 CM'S in the building, we now have only Cork & Westwood as fit senior CM'S, yes I know Brownhill can play there, but He'll likely be dispatched to the right unless we get signings in over the next couple of weeks.

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Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 7:21 pm
by fidelcastro
tiger76 wrote:
Thu Jul 29, 2021 7:19 pm

Now we've cleared the decks it's surely time to start recruiting, I'd say we need a minimum of 1 CM, and 1 RW, but as Stephens is still unavailable we may need to consider getting 2 CM'S in the building, we now have only Cork & Westwood as fit senior CM'S, yes I know Brownhill can play there, but He'll likely be dispatched to the right unless we get signings in over the next couple of weeks.
Yes. JBG must be due another injury soon.

Re: ARTICLE: Benson from Burnley to Barnsley

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 7:23 pm
by tiger76
randomclaret2 wrote:
Thu Jul 29, 2021 7:09 pm
We have 18 senior outfield players , 2 of of whom are recovering from operations.
Yes that's a frightening prospect given that the season commences in just over a fortnight, I can only hope that the plan is too trim the squad to allow space for newbies.

If this isn't the case then our bench is going to be even more threadbare than last season, and I never thought that could be possible.

You can only assume we've got some irons in the fire as we're allowing guys to leave en masse.

Re: ARTICLE: Benson from Burnley to Barnsley

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 7:25 pm
by boatshed bill
randomclaret2 wrote:
Thu Jul 29, 2021 7:09 pm
We have 18 senior outfield players , 2 of of whom are recovering from operations.
Yep, not so good is it?

definitely 4 places to fill, although we can obviously add U23s

Re: ARTICLE: Benson from Burnley to Barnsley

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 7:26 pm
by fidelcastro
tiger76 wrote:
Thu Jul 29, 2021 7:23 pm

You can only assume we've got some irons in the fire as we're allowing guys to leave en masse.
I think we're allowing the guys to leave who clearly aren't good enough.

Re: ARTICLE: Benson from Burnley to Barnsley

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 7:26 pm
by tiger76
fidelcastro wrote:
Thu Jul 29, 2021 7:21 pm
Yes. JBG must be due another injury soon.
We may get a pleasant surprise, but you've got to consider his history, and normally he only manages 2/3 games on the bounce before either breaking down, or having to be managed. Shame! as at his best he's one of our more effective attacking outlets, but we simply can't rely on him staying fit for any sustained period of time alas.

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Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 7:27 pm
by randomclaret2
boatshed bill wrote:
Thu Jul 29, 2021 7:25 pm
Yep, not so good is it?

definitely 4 places to fill, although we can obviously add U23s
I can only imagine SDs thoughts on filling the bench with U23s for a 3rd season running 😳

Re: ARTICLE: Benson from Burnley to Barnsley

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 7:29 pm
by tiger76
fidelcastro wrote:
Thu Jul 29, 2021 7:26 pm
I think we're allowing the guys to leave who clearly aren't good enough.
Yes I've no issue with that, and for that kind of money we'd be daft to knock a bid back.

I just hope this is the pruning the wheat from the chafe before we embark on a spending spree.

Re: ARTICLE: Benson from Burnley to Barnsley

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 7:30 pm
by COBBLE
Really pleased for the lad. He showed attitude after being let go from Arsenal to keep his dream alive. I hope to see him making a real name in the EFL.
Well done Josh.

Re: ARTICLE: Benson from Burnley to Barnsley

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 7:31 pm
by tiger76
randomclaret2 wrote:
Thu Jul 29, 2021 7:27 pm
I can only imagine SDs thoughts on filling the bench with U23s for a 3rd season running 😳
Probably couldn't be repeated on here that's for sure. :lol:

Re: ARTICLE: Benson from Burnley to Barnsley

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 7:34 pm
by jdrobbo
Wishing Josh nothing but success. Hoping he has a terrific career from here on.

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Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 7:40 pm
by bfcjg
Good luck to the lad, I think he will make a very good player .

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Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 8:09 pm
by Buxtonclaret
Be one or two very confused looking BBC jorno's trying to work out how they're going to report this.

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Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 8:34 pm
by Chester Perry
Father Jack wrote:
Thu Jul 29, 2021 7:10 pm
If we can sell 3x young players a season for £3m then I’d expect we’ll be covering the academy running cost. So the model is self sustaining even if we don’t produce prem standard first team players. That’s got to be the plan year in year out.
two years ago it was said the lowest cost of running a Cat 1 Academy was Circa £5m, with all the protocols in place and the fact we now seem to be paying fees for some of our development players I cannot see how it will be less and could be a fair bit more

Re: ARTICLE: Benson from Burnley to Barnsley

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 8:35 pm
by CharlieinNewMexico
Aren’t Barnsley one of those clubs that do the moneyball algorithms? You could definitely see him busy in a midfield pushing 10 and 15 yd passes around.

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Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 8:36 pm
by KateR
Good luck Josh.

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Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 8:39 pm
by Chester Perry
CharlieinNewMexico wrote:
Thu Jul 29, 2021 8:35 pm
Aren’t Barnsley one of those clubs that do the moneyball algorithms? You could definitely see him busy in a midfield pushing 10 and 15 yd passes around.
That is exactly what Barnsley are about (there are now 6 clubs in the group) and it is all about moving talent on whether it be players, coaches, analysts, even their chief executive.

Re: ARTICLE: Benson from Burnley to Barnsley

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 8:40 pm
by ClaretTony
Chester Perry wrote:
Thu Jul 29, 2021 8:39 pm
That is exactly what Barnsley are about (there are now 6 clubs in the group) and it is all about moving talent on whether it be players, coaches, analysts, even their chief executive.
CEO has gone to Forest - a young American

Re: ARTICLE: Benson from Burnley to Barnsley

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 8:45 pm
by CharlieinNewMexico
Chester Perry wrote:
Thu Jul 29, 2021 8:39 pm
That is exactly what Barnsley are about (there are now 6 clubs in the group) and it is all about moving talent on whether it be players, coaches, analysts, even their chief executive.
Like Liefering > Salzburg > Leipzig > boom big sale to Bayern or similar European club. Nice Conveyor belt and little money changing hands because of same ownership until the pay off.

Re: ARTICLE: Benson from Burnley to Barnsley

Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 2:35 am
by superdimitri
Good business from us this window with our sales. Don't think Benson or Dunne really showed they were premier league quality. That's the problem though, such a big gap for youngsters nowadays.

Re: ARTICLE: Benson from Burnley to Barnsley

Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:28 pm
by AfloatinClaret
fidelcastro wrote:
Thu Jul 29, 2021 7:18 pm
...It's a real shame that most fees are undisclosed these days, as I'd love to know how much a player...is worth nowadays.
Nooooo! That's the beauty of it: Nathan Collins bought for £-undisclosed and Josh Benson sold for £-undisclosed, so we break even on the two deals :D

Re: ARTICLE: Benson from Burnley to Barnsley

Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:34 pm
by BOYSIE31
Good luck to the lad but nowhere near upto this leagues standard yet - maybe in the future but right to cash in and admire him moving on to have a career unlike Long.